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Related: About this forumI often wonder how much of America is now this in one way or another, or on the verge.
I'm always shocked at how many cities of my youth now look like this, the result of American Exceptionalism, Reaganism, trickle down economics and failed politicians.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Main streets were gutted, lined with boarded up buildings. It was a shock really.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)in many areas. Fortunately, with YouTube and cheap videoing we can now see things we well might not have ever seen. Certainly, MSM does not do much coverage.
When I was back in my hometown as a kid, I saw some things like this, nowhere near as bad, not nearly, but I saw bordered up businesses, houses, etc. that were very prosperous in my youth ... and other places that were shabby that were once pristine.
Really major industries had moved all operations into other countries and the mainstay of income for all types of jobs was gone. It was a happy place back then and one had to work really hard not to have a job that paid a reasonable income.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)Cairo apparently has had issues for over a century
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/il-cairo.html
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)I was expecting the typical "company town falls apart when the company moves/goes bankrupt" story. This was so much more interesting.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I was in rural Missouri last week and visited a famous small town that is virtually boarded up. It was where my wife's grand parents once lived and they had a train depot that someone was storing any documents they could save as people died or left town.
There was one church and one business left in what once was a thriving business district. Trees had fallen and closed several of the already limited number of streets and the remainder had been left to return to dust.
So many towns across America where there are a dozen or more houses left occupied.
midnight
(26,624 posts)what seems to be stable.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)hardcore racism for many years. Brutal. Nasty.
midnight
(26,624 posts)tensions between the difference in people. However, I have a theory that austerity seals the demise of any freedom. And this go around the ugly will not discriminate.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Keep America Beautiful has fallen. With overgrown weeds and grafitti allowed to stay along with the trash, I think Lady Bird Johnson would have a heart attack.
We are third world.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)because the lack of resources (water, transportation, arable land) meant that the city couldn't be self-sustaining even under the best of circumstances, and certainly not during Hard Times.
It wasn't called The Empty Quarter as a compliment, or a challenge:
malthaussen
(17,195 posts)Located right at the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi, solidly within the area marked "breadbasket" in the graphic you supply. A priori, I can think of few places that are more ideal for a city location, except of course for the flooding.
-- Mal
Hestia
(3,818 posts)the empty areas, where the build up should never have happened.
IMNSHO, I think liberals need to go in and "take" over these empty areas (where viable) and develop our own towns. It ain't as if the infrastructure isn't there (in a large part). It wouldn't take much, especially as empty as these towns are. Develop sustainability, solar, water conservation, etc.
We, for whatever reason (middle class mores), need to quit asking for permission and just say screw you, we are doing it. It would be easy to move in, get rid of local control and take over. With global warming coming, the area's that can be developed will be taken over by hedge funds along with privatizing the water.
villager
(26,001 posts)Repair, rebuild what they can. Grow what they can.
Keep building, keep cooperating, since no one will be getting "evicted" from these empty, otherwise unused spaces...
Botany
(70,504 posts).... May to October the place is hotter then hell and very humid.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)This is what happens when slumlords run the country.
GOP = SLUMLORDS
Hestia
(3,818 posts)amount and cities can get loans from those figures, putting you and yours in future debt because they will have to jack up your property taxes because of these "bad" properties are still on rolls.
In Pine Bluff, Ark., there are buildings falling down on Main St., with the owners refusing to clean up the debris and further emptying out of Main St./Downtown District. The buildings were built cheaply and haven't been maintained throughout the years and landlords either dying off or simply abandoning the properties. But you can bet they get a property tax bill every year - $120k or more - as if anyone is going to pay that.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Those responsible for this believe they will remain above the fray. Eventually it will catch up with them.
Eventually there will be a very contracted market for goods and services. Just the effect of cutting "entitlements" will have a very adverse effect on local economies.
I remember early in the Dubya Bush Administration they had one of Dubya's main economic advisers on TV. The host of the program asked him about the negative effects of all the foreign outsourcing. He responded that we are all stockholders now, all the American workers. He went on to say that when the bottom line of corporations increases we all benefit and one of the best ways to achieve a better corporate outlook was to outsource jobs. Obviously this line of thinking has not been abandoned.
The ones responsible for this are the true enemies of this nation.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)will fall, no matter how strong the pier once was!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We must address this.
TinkerTot55
(198 posts)From Wikipedia:
Cairo is located at the confluence of the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. The rivers converge at Fort Defiance State Park, a Civil War fort that was commanded by General Ulysses S. Grant. Cairo has the lowest elevation of any location within Illinois and is the only city in the state surrounded by levees. This part of Illinois is known as Little Egypt.
Several blocks in the town comprise the Cairo Historic District, listed on the National Register of Historic Places (NRHP). The Old Customs House is also on the NRHP. The city is part of the Cape Girardeau?Jackson, MO-IL Metropolitan Statistical Area. The population at the 2010 census was 2,831, a significant decline from its peak population of 15,203 in 1920.
The entire city was evacuated during the 2011 Mississippi River Floods, after the Ohio River rose above the 1937 flood levels, out of fear of a 15-foot wall of water inundating the city. The United States Army Corps of Engineers breached levees in the Mississippi flood zone below Cairo in Missouri in order to save the areas above the breach along both the Ohio and Mississippi rivers.
Seems it is very vulnerable to flooding.
But I certainly agree with poster's point about small-town America being hit hard by forces beyond their control, leading to large scale abandonment by the populations.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)80% of Americans live in cities. That leaves roughly 60 million non-urban dwellers. It's a continent-wide country, and that's not a lot of people to fill tens of thousands of small towns.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Wal-Mart has destroyed thousands of small businesses. Non-functional downtowns. No real grocery stores, no dry cleaners, no movie theaters, no general merchandise/dry goods stores, just a dollar store that is part of a chain. Where I live the pharmacy closed. We have not had a grocery store in about ten years. No jobs, too many people stealing and on illegal drugs to survive.
And yet I had some guy tell me that after Obama's second inauguration, all those poor people in Houston (I think he meant "poor blacks" were going to come to the rural areas and take everything we had. He was telling me to stockpile food. And guns.
Well, there is no wealth here, and what little there is is probably inherited wealth from businesses. There's an awful lot of wealth in Houston, with 4 million people in the metro area.
This guy was wrong. Maybe he heard it from his tea party buddies or on Fox News. I don't know.
swilton
(5,069 posts)which promote driving rather than walking, drive-through banks, loss of small farms and loss of communities.
I blame this on the globalizing economy - nothing supports communities like independent businesses and local agriculture.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)You have Wally World at the bottom, and Nordstrom and Neiman-Marcus at the top and no stores in the middle, like Foley's in Houston. Foley's was eaten by Macy's. Sakowitz and Battelstein's went out of business.
The Foley's downtown store was amazing. It had 9 floors and a basement, occupied an entire city block, and was the second largest department store in the country after the famous Macy's in New York City. I used to walk 19 blocks from the courthouse to Foley's on my lunch hour.
I have looked at old pictures of the great department stores in Houston and it strikes me now how elegant and spacious the stores were, with well designed display cases, beautiful chandeliers and a lot of details. I remember them from my childhood. Now the stores just stack too much stuff up and you have to climb on a display to get what you need, or you might injure yourself trying to get around the merchandise.
In Dallas you have NorthPark Mall which is in Highland Park, a rich, close-in suburb of Dallas, and in Houston you have the Galleria which has 3 sections and is massive, on the west side just outside Loop 610. You can get attentive service in a store, you just have to pay through the nose for it. The vibe in expensive stores is completely different from Wally World. People are cheerful and happy in the high end stores. Even if you don't buy anything, the salespeople smile at you.
In Texas, everything is far apart so a car is a necessity. You needed a car in Texas back in the 1950s and 60s, so it hasn't changed. The city fathers in Houston and Dallas fought light rail kicking and screaming, but the people like it. Houston's bus system and light rail are completely inadequate.
It costs too much for most people to live in a high density neighborhood like Montrose, and you still might not have a grocery store in walking distance. I have been to New York, Boston and San Francisco, and even high density in Houston is nowhere nearly as dense as it is in these old cities. New York, Boston and San Francisco all have excellent subway systems which work with high density population. I was amazed when I found out that you could grow up in New York or Boston and never need to buy a car or get a driver's license. That concept was utterly foreign to me. Kind of like a state income tax.
Cities like Dallas, Atlanta, San Antonio, Austin and Houston have seen population growth because of the ubiquity of central air conditioning. It's miserable and just about intolerable for several months out of the year due to the heat and humidity, so you have to have an air conditioned house and an air conditioned car. I grew up in an un-airconditioned house in Houston with a couple of completely inadequate window units.
In high humidity the temperature does not go down at night. Many a night I couldn't sleep because it was still 85 or 90 at night. You have to go north or west to get to a dry enough climate that it cools off at night.
People who think it gets cool at night must be thinking of dry climates like Southern California, or New Mexico or Colorado.
http://departmentstoremuseum.blogspot.com/2010/05/foley-brothers-dry-goods-co-houston.html
788,000 square feet:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0bRrhyfW294/S_szU8CmQ9I/AAAAAAAAC6c/t_M0OjFAeN4/s400/foleys+ext+8.jpg