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As a shareholder and director of our company, Im always proud of Wal-Mart and what we do and the way we do it better than anybody else, current Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said in a speech in 1990, when she was first lady of Arkansas.
The largest grocery retailer in the U.S. and the biggest company in the world by revenue, Wal-Mart has long been criticized for paying its workers poverty wages. Because those workers often require financial assistance from the U.S. government, Wal-Mart effectively receives a subsidy on labor.
Posted by Alexander Reed Kelly.
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_hillary_clinton_in_1990_im_proud_of_walmart_20150525
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I wouldn't shop at WalMart today under any circumstances.
I guess some people are certain that nothing changes over a period of 25 years.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)2 things have changed for sure over the last 25 years-
The Waltons have gotten filthy rich and
The middle class has lost jobs, income and dignity
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Done and done.
Next smear, please.
pengu
(462 posts)Wal-Mart scion Alice Walton ... cut $25,000 checks to Ready for Hillary last year, the super PAC said in a public filing.
Alice Walton gave to republicans last cycle, but she's all in for Clinton this time.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... are giving the Clinton ONLY. Or just Alice. Link?
It would also be nice for you to demonstrate the quid pro quo. You gonna attempt that, too?
Surely, you're doing more than empty smears, right?
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)You are right, we all grow in our own ways.
Think that Sam Walton would be ashamed of direction his company has gone. He was proud of their Made in USA program of encouraging and selling US production. It's one thing to offer foreign made products and another thing to actively off-shore items.
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)I have never stepped foot into a Walmart and never will! They are a scourge on the planet.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)You bring this up, why?
To show us there is something wrong about the wife of the Governor saying something good about the largest business in their state?
Should she have told them they were scumbags and should move to Mississippi? Along with Tyson?
As attacks on Hillary go, this one is one of the more pathetic.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)or don't, i really don't care
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I was certain that Hillary would no longer take that point of view.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Wal-Mart is a trigger in some circles, as if the past is the present and the future. Just mentioning the name brings up all the fears and hatreds.
But you know that, and labor justice isn't your point-- trashing Hillary is your point.
How does Hillary feel about Amazon warehouses replacing pickers with robots because they're cheaper than cheap Amazon wages and don't take breaks or collapse from heatstroke?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)After Sam passed, the kids took over and applied the Randian method to the business. They began selling foreign goods to increase their profits, workers be damned. It's not the same kind of place as it was 25 years ago.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Before she was put on the Board, she was one of the company's attorneys at the Rose Law Firm while her husband was Governor. They must have thought she was quite good at representing the company.
Gman
(24,780 posts)and you're posting it now? Really?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We have a choice. Eve 25 years ago, Bernie Sanders stood for working people and values that would benefit all people.
After several unsuccessful runs for office, Sanders was elected Mayor of Burlington, Vermont's largest city, in 1981. He was re-elected to three more two-year terms before being elected to represent Vermont's at-large congressional district in the United States House of Representatives in 1990. He served as a Congressman for 16 years before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2006 to succeed the retiring Republican-turned-independent Jim Jeffords. He was re-elected in 2012 by a landslide.
. . . .
In 1981, at the suggestion of his friend Richard Sugarman, a professor of religion at the University of Vermont, Sanders ran for mayor of Burlington and defeated six-term Democratic incumbent Gordon Paquette by 10 votes [30] in a four-way contest. Sanders won three more terms, defeating both Democratic and Republican candidates. In his final run for mayor in 1987, Sanders defeated a candidate endorsed by both major parties.[31]
During Sanders' first term, his supporters, including the first Citizens Party City Councilor Terry Bouricius, formed the Progressive Coalition, the forerunner of the Vermont Progressive Party.[citation needed] The Progressives never held more than six seats on the 13-member city council but had enough votes to keep the council from overriding Sanders' vetoes.[citation needed] Under Sanders, Burlington became the first city in the country to fund community-trust housing. His administration also sued the local cable television provider and won considerably reduced rates and a substantial cash settlement.[citation needed]
After serving four terms, Sanders chose not to seek reelection in 1989. He briefly taught political science at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government that year and at Hamilton College in 1991.[32]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
onehandle
(51,122 posts)...but comparing the snippet of time 25 years ago of a mayor of a Northeast blue, blue, blue city with a first lady of a ever reddening Southern state, Democrat or not, is pretty ridiculous.
I fucking hate Walmart, but at the time it was much of the economy of Arkansas. What was this unelected person supposed to do?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Sorry. Those are just the facts.
Vermont was not that blue until Patrick Leahy got elected. When I was a child in the 40s and 50s, it was considered to be a conservative state.
Sanders and Leahy get part of the credit for changing the state from red to blue although the changes probably happened just before their time.
On the other hand, as you point out, Arkansas has become more conservative since the Clintons were in charge. Is their any causal relationship? I don't know.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Arkansas conservatism is laughable and you know it.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)at all. Vermont is much more liberal than it used to be.
I remember listening (radio back then) to the incoming presidential election results as a child. Vermont was predictably conservative as I recall. It came in early because it is in the Northeast.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)comparing conservative south to the conservative north is still laughable. Those are the conservatives we used to be able to get along with. However I am sure you felt that way. I just don't think it was based in reality.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Research the issue. you will see. Prior to The 1970s ans even after that, Vermont was conservative.
As for the South, have you heard of Southern Democrats? Extremely common prior to Johnson, passage of the Civil Rights Act. They were liberal on certain economic issues, backward and hateful on race. Have you heard og Nixon's Southern strategy?
It's history that is important to know and understand. Thanks.Ksorry about typos. Using ipad I am not used to.
Paka
(2,760 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)change its spots???
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)Maybe next time look for something from the 21 century.
LMAO.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)What a fraud little crying Hillary was sixty years ago or so.
Literally sucking at the teat of 'big family.'
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)to raise a Clinton family.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Wal*Mart is almost the least of it. This from the murky, almost obscured, often denied, past:
THE GUARDIAN
"The Crimes of Mena"
March 24, 1994
By Martin Walker IN WASHINGTON
Reposted at http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/mena_summary.html
Hillary Clinton's Rose law firm is also facing scrutiny for its
role in helping the discredited Bank of Credit and Commerce
International acquire its US banking arm, First American. Rose was
the law firm for the Arkansas financial group Stephens Inc,
America's biggest investment firm outside of Wall Street, and its
associated Worthen bank.
Stephens Inc owned part of the holding company, Financial
General, which controlled the First National Bank of Georgia.
Stephens Inc and the Rose law firm helped BCCI to creep into the US
banking market through its purchase of shares in Financial General.
This in turn leads on to the murky world of bond-trading and
whether the Nicaraguan contras were being financed by
cocaine-smuggling. Governor Clinton was indeed the only Democrat to
send his state National Guard to Honduras to train alongside the
contras.
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)it said that eight major unions endorsed her candidacy in 2008. I suppose an 8-second sound bite trumps eight union endorsements.
I hope she recalls that confident, early-90s demeanor during her campaign. It will also serve her well during the inevitable Benghazi/email/Laugh-gate hearings.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Vote for Bernie, why?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's what Hillary has to deal with. It's her past. It isn't that it is so horrible. It's just that Bernie has a cleaner record when it comes to supporting working people.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Do think it helps to convince anyone to vote for Bernie? I am aware of Hillary's record, I like her record better than I like Bernie and his stand on issues.
I don't think it is necessary to bring out Bernie's record, we don't have anything to gain by giving his record over and over.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)which is liberal but not startling or even that interesting.
I'm sorry if my bringing out Bernie's record seems unnecessary to you. I can understand how that record could make a Hillary fan uncomfortable.
I think we should talk about the candidates' records and stances as often as possible because we are going to be voting in the primaries and we all want the best candidate.
I happen to think that the best candidate will be Bernie Sanders. You disagree with me. A lot of people like Hillary or think they do. But what do they really know about her?
Not that much. She is a name, but her views and her personality have not really been put to the test that is needed if she is to prove that she would be the best candidate in the primary.
That is why we need a primary.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)important in past elections also. Bernie and Hillary are together on many issues and seems different on other issues, ergo, in my opinion I like Hillary's stand on these issues more so I will be backing her.
I post Hillary's record to many people who make false claims against her and her record. Some of the talking points are past ridiculous at best and actually some of the same you hear on RW talk shows. If those who are posting this are Bernie supporters then I don't see why they do not post Bernie's record and give information which pushes his agenda. Talking about Hillary is so old it is not effective and turns into the same reaction as RW talking points.
I am looking forward to the primary, to the debates and seeing possible other candidates entering so as to have good intelligent debates promoting the DNC platform. I sure do not want to see the GOP clown car primary for the DNC.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)until the very last second
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Everyone knows people change their core principals after their 40s. She was just starting out 24 years after high school, spreading her middle-aged wings, finding her postgraduate school self, trying new ideas, Right?
So much for the "it was 25 years ago" crowd.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)is a COMPLETELY different beast than WalMart now. In 1990, Sam Walton was still running things, wages were competitive (for the time), they weren't a grocery store mega-giant (they were an alternative to Sears and K-Mart), and they sold primarily goods Made In The USA.
WalMart today is run by Sam's terrible kids, sells the majority of our imported goods from China, and treats and pays it's workers like shit, all while opening way too many mega grocery stores, putting mom and pops out of business. Apples and oranges.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I agree for the most part!
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Sam Walton died in 1992.
While I do believe there is some criticism to be had here, I think Wal-Mart has gotten FAR FAR worse since then. I am not excusing her per say, but I think this is pretty weak sauce. It was a different company before the kids took it over.
I do believe that her distancing from Wal-Mart is a very good thing. People can change.
If someone can show me where Wal-Mart Employees needed financial assistance from the U.S. government as a systemic need prior to 1992 I might be willing to take this more seriously.