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Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
2. By then, the ruse was clear
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:32 AM
Oct 2015

By then, "Hope and Change" had its pretty wrapping ripped away to reveal corporate swindle.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. By all means, Sanders rewarded NRA longer than he did Obama, that's appreciation for Obama
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

campaigning for him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Who was Obama campaigning to, the constituents, helping him get votes, just as the NRA donating
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:13 PM
Oct 2015

money to defeat Sanders opponent and yet when it was time for the 2012 election Sanders wanted someone to run against Obama, sad.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
6. No, what's sad is
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
Oct 2015

that some think that actions, or inaction, have no consequences. One must wonder if Obama was trying to "bribe" Bernie into submission by campaigning for him. Didn't work. Sorry.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Now, seriously, what is the difference in the NRA donating money to get an opponent defeated and
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:25 PM
Oct 2015

then voting with the NRA on the Brady Bill several times, if you consider Obama campaigning for Sanders is a form of bribe Bernie to campaigning for Obama, then the NRA donation is a bribe also. Bad direction to prove a point.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
8. Bernie has always said his allegiance is to his constituents
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

MANY of whom are gun owners. I have not gotten the impression any of his votes were based on NRA contributions but those who voted him into office. Do I agree with his votes? No, but he states that his actions were based on those who voted for him, not anyone who may have financed him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. I see where his allegiance lies, perhaps this lack of flexibility is the reason why the people whom
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:45 PM
Oct 2015

he has worked with over the years are not endorsing him now.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
12. What is truly shocking
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 04:39 PM
Oct 2015

is that some people on DU consider a member of congress who the democrats have been pleased to have caucus with them on procedural votes (i.e. getting important votes to the floor!) to not be associated in any way with the democratic party. That, to me, is absurd.

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