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2011 video of Sanders calling for President Obama to face a primary challenger (Original Post) bigdarryl Feb 2016 OP
Good EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #1
President Obama has 90% approval rating among African Americans you might think it's good bigdarryl Feb 2016 #2
They are not mindless drones basselope Feb 2016 #4
There's nothing to lose EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #13
Here is a link to HRC defending her 675,000 fees for speaking to Goldman Sachs guillaumeb Feb 2016 #3
OH MY GOD!! Sanders thinks Americans have the right to primary someone who is taking mikehiggins Feb 2016 #5
Thank you for posting this video. debunction.junction Feb 2016 #6
There are a LOT of people who stayed home in 2012 because Obama wasn't as liberal as they thought. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #12
This was at a time when it looked like Obama might cut SS azurnoir Feb 2016 #7
Looked like it to his critics maybe, not anyone who trusted him. He was also going to support Hoyt Feb 2016 #10
Sanders wasn't running for POTUS in 2011 azurnoir Feb 2016 #16
Obama offered up cuts to Social Security in negotiations with the Republicans. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #11
that is exactly the case what we're seeing is an attempt at memory hole politics azurnoir Feb 2016 #17
No cut occurred. In fact, seniors got a boost in drug coverage from Obamacare legislation. Hoyt Feb 2016 #19
Exactly! Thanks for pointing that out. Duval Feb 2016 #20
And your point? LS_Editor Feb 2016 #8
Thank you. betsuni Feb 2016 #9
I know. This makes Sanders look like a MEGA TeaLeftist. VERY disappointed he would say such SHIT! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #15
If this shows up in ads, Bernie is SCREWED with African American voters, and MANY Dems in general. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #14
Be sure to keep your fingers crossed and pray the real context doesn't come out azurnoir Feb 2016 #18

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
1. Good
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

Loyalty is for family friends and gangs... If someone better for America had run then good.

This whole notion that people should be loyal to politicians or parties against their own self-interest is suicidal.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
2. President Obama has 90% approval rating among African Americans you might think it's good
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

But those 90% AA who see this might not think so.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
4. They are not mindless drones
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

They can APPROVE of him and also understand the many ways Obama let the progressive movement down during his first term.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
13. There's nothing to lose
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

If you're the best politician in a democracy a run a good campaign you have a very good chance of being reelected.

Obama is a mixed bag for many many people and Bernie is more progressive... I'm not surprised thst progressives would want someone more progressive than Obama..

Trying to play the race card to scare POC away from Bernie is pretty low. Even for Clinton supporters.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Here is a link to HRC defending her 675,000 fees for speaking to Goldman Sachs
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/02/04/nh-democratic-town-hall-hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-15.cnn


One clip represents a political view based on positions, mine represents a classic case of quid pro quo.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
5. OH MY GOD!! Sanders thinks Americans have the right to primary someone who is taking
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

steps they don't agree with. Why, that means the American people should have the right to decide their own fate and that of their nation. That means nobody is a sacred cow that has to be worshipped blindly because.

I am shocked, I tell you, shocked. What would Tom Jefferson think?

6. Thank you for posting this video.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

When the right would tout Obama's low approval ratings as if he was too liberal, it was that many of us disapproved because Obama abandoned the voters who got him there and was not liberal enough.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. This was at a time when it looked like Obama might cut SS
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

and in fact that becomes obvious in the first minute of the video

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Looked like it to his critics maybe, not anyone who trusted him. He was also going to support
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

the pipe line, and was supposedly against net neutrality. His critics -- mostly Sanders supporters -- were not right about those.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
11. Obama offered up cuts to Social Security in negotiations with the Republicans.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

This coming from a Democrat ... CUTS TO F#CKING SOCIAL SECURITY! Bernie suggested that a primary challenge may move Obama back to the left where he could keep the promise he made during the primary to protect Social Security. It takes a real tool and slave to the establishment to be fine with putting our social safety net on the table to be bargained away. We'd also be in danger of same if Hillary ever made it to the White House. They say one thing while campaigning and then govern like a moderate Republican. No thanks.

betsuni

(25,475 posts)
9. Thank you.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

Tired of people insisting Sanders didn't say this. And "I think one of the reasons that Obama has moved as far to the right as he has is he thinks he can go all the way" -- what the hell does that mean? Obama's a secret Republican? I don't know if I can trust anyone with such poor judgement that he considers Obama a right-winger. How ridiculous.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
15. I know. This makes Sanders look like a MEGA TeaLeftist. VERY disappointed he would say such SHIT!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
14. If this shows up in ads, Bernie is SCREWED with African American voters, and MANY Dems in general.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:29 PM
Feb 2016

STUPID STUPID STUPID SHIT TO SAY !!!!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. Be sure to keep your fingers crossed and pray the real context doesn't come out
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

the boats they are swift eh?

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