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Related: About this forumHillary is very PROUD to be a GOLDWATER GIRL
Promotion of segregation was a platform Goldwater defended all the way to the 1964 Republican National Convention in San Francisco, in which he famously said, Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. In that same speech, Goldwater also said Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue, which, ironically, could also be a criticism of Hillary Clintons 2016 presidential campaign:
http://usuncut.com/politics/npr-interview-hillary-clinton-was-proud-of-her-conservatism/
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(6,048 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Guess what she wasn't in 96? A teen!!!
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)So thats why I'm naturally an independent at my core. I just happen to lean left. Yet Hillary is to my Right. smh.
Like okay we elected someone twice to work with republicans they didn't want to play. Time to go back to a real Liberal. Enough of the Conservatives in our Party. It's still our party until I decide to leave it. and I haven't decided that yet.
jalan48
(13,882 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)... a one-time Republican - like, for example, Elizabeth Warren.
Amiright?
msongs
(67,438 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)... but that's different.
Right?
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Hillary did...at least twice. The term "Super predator" ring any bells? Here's a hint... Warren didn't say it...
Quixote1818
(28,967 posts)I really doubt Warren thinks anything close to that. Warren is clearly passionate about being liberal. My guess is Hillary will be a very centrist president. I hope I am wrong.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Obama's "third term" is what I'd expect from Madame President.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...to always be truthful to the American electorate? To what extent do you trust her to strive to keep campaign promises? To not change her position depending on whom she is talking to?
If you see the first two words of a headline, "Hillary flip-flops..." before seeing the rest, are the first two words that come to your mind, "yet again"?
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)was a pro Gun Democrat until..... well you know the story. She was a Conservadem until that fateful day.. Now the Irony is that most true Conservatives are pro gun control a Conservative in the Democratic Party is not the same thing as a Conservative in the Republican party. under D it's the Right wing of the party. in R it's everyone but the Tea Party and the Moderates. Yeah people change. If this were a fair game then why is she bringing up a vote from Bernie over a decade ago. People change . Voting changes. One vote verses several.
I supposed while your at it you can go after Cenk from TYT. anything else everyone already knows
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I don't believe some of the things I believed 20 years ago and I have no problem repudiating them now. I think the problem comes in when you know the things you once believed in were wrong, but you refuse to acknowledge you should have known better. Because the obvious problem that presents is that some of the things you believe in now are also probably wrong, yet you lack the ability to change your ideas based on new information. To make a mistake is certainly forgivable, but to not learn from your mistakes is not. That's what makes some people untrustworthy.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)There are some points that I do not trust Warren on, myself.
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)a sane republican.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Goldwater was the godfather of the modern republican party and everything they stand for.
He advocated repealing the landmark legislation ensconcing the right of people of color, women, religious minorities, and other groups to be free from discrimination. All the actions performed by modern republicans are merely shadows cast off that pillar of hate.
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)You are absolutely right. But comparatively speaking, Goldwater was a moderate.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)
But I think Goldwater would fit right in with average conservatives just fine.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)There's a certain strata that Goldwater fits comfortable into. It's not the Tea Party / dumbfuckery GOP that Barry would align with, but he'd feel VERY MUCH at home with the Reagan Rethug gang just fine.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)He just wasn't a social conservative, but that doesn't make him a moderate by a long shot.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Some interactive buttons on the following page for the 1964 Presidential Campaigns.
http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1964/merely-another-weapon
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)is suddly a great guy. that might be true
Quixote1818
(28,967 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)your video posted at the exact time i posted an op in gprimaries about her lie regarding her early years supporting republicans.
George II
(67,782 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Well, then that makes it at least a week that Hillary supporters failed to defend her stance, PROUDLY embracing a platform that promoted segregation and bigotry.
The hell you say!
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Just ignore it and it don't exist.
Things like that can be simple if you want them to be.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)In the meantime, I'll spread the word... and I know I'm not the only one.
This kind of crap should never go unchallenged!
Umbral18
(105 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)at age 21 as I went to a Liberal Arts College...ironically Nixon's alma mater. I was a Democrat from then on. I don't even remember what really changed my mind. Perhaps it was just learning to think for myself and read up on issues.
madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)She was 16, for crying out loud. SIXTEEN. SIXTEEN, in case you missed it. By the time she got to college, and out from under her republican father's roof, she was a Democrat.
Good lord, people. It's way past time to get a grip.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)This interview was in 1996. 1996 in case you missed it. She hasn't changed a DAMN THING!
She's frickin PROUD on her choices back then. She DOUBLE DOWNED on her endorsement of Goldwater's bigotry!
It's way past time for you to get a grip.
captainarizona
(363 posts)She is proud of goldwater voting against civil rights bill?
PoliticalMalcontent
(449 posts)ha. hahahahaha.