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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:55 PM Apr 2016

Hillary is very PROUD to be a GOLDWATER GIRL



In 1964, when Clinton was 18, she worked on Barry Goldwater’s presidential campaign. Goldwater was running for president during the same year that the Civil Rights Act was passed, and advocated repealing the landmark legislation ensconcing the right of people of color, women, religious minorities, and other groups to be free from discrimination.

Promotion of segregation was a platform Goldwater defended all the way to the 1964 Republican National Convention in San Francisco, in which he famously said, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.” In that same speech, Goldwater also said “Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue,” which, ironically, could also be a criticism of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign:

http://usuncut.com/politics/npr-interview-hillary-clinton-was-proud-of-her-conservatism/
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Hillary is very PROUD to be a GOLDWATER GIRL (Original Post) Bubzer Apr 2016 OP
She was a teen from a Republican family. The voting age was 21 back then. Metric System Apr 2016 #1
And the NPR show interview was in 1996... and she's PROUD to be a GOLDWATER GIRL!!! Bubzer Apr 2016 #2
I'm from a mixed political family PatrynXX Apr 2016 #15
From Goldwater to Goldman Sachs. That's our Hillary! jalan48 Apr 2016 #3
No one should ever trust ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #4
a lifer- career republican until her sudden rebirth lol n t msongs Apr 2016 #5
Well, yeah ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #7
Considering her lack of bigotry? Yes. Yes it is. Bubzer Apr 2016 #8
Warren never supported bigotry Bubzer Apr 2016 #6
Hillary has flat out said she thinks Move On is way too left wing Quixote1818 Apr 2016 #14
I think your correct. Bubzer Apr 2016 #17
I think you're correct as well Plucketeer Apr 2016 #25
Well, to what extent do you yourself trust Hillary... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #18
Gabby Giffords PatrynXX Apr 2016 #19
No one should ever trust anyone who fails to admit they were wrong Major Nikon Apr 2016 #36
You are correct. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #39
History has made Goldwater Turbineguy Apr 2016 #9
You'll have to forgive me if I disagree. Bubzer Apr 2016 #10
These things are relative. Turbineguy Apr 2016 #13
If we were comparing against Trump, or Cruz, or Walker... the more extreme elements... I'd agree. Bubzer Apr 2016 #16
I'm with Bibzer on this Plucketeer Apr 2016 #26
He was closer to what we now call libertarian Major Nikon Apr 2016 #28
Did Hillary campaign for the use of nuclear weapons by Goldwater in Vietnam in the mid 1960's? DhhD Apr 2016 #34
well since Kissinger PatrynXX Apr 2016 #20
It would not surprise me if she ended up to the right of her husband as POTUS. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2016 #11
She's always been politically to the right of Bill. Bubzer Apr 2016 #12
serendipity! hopemountain Apr 2016 #21
... Bubzer Apr 2016 #22
It must be at least a week since someone has posted that video here. George II Apr 2016 #23
A whole week? Bubzer Apr 2016 #24
LOL! Plucketeer Apr 2016 #27
They don't have to defend it. zeemike Apr 2016 #32
I'm content with them ignoring it...because I know they will. Bubzer Apr 2016 #33
From what I can see it's not often enough. nt Umbral18 Apr 2016 #35
Well, I was a Nixon Girl in high school, but cast my first vote for McGovern libdem4life Apr 2016 #29
OFFS. madamesilverspurs Apr 2016 #30
OFFS. Bubzer Apr 2016 #31
goldwater voted against 1964 civil rights bill. captainarizona Apr 2016 #37
And she's progressive... PoliticalMalcontent Apr 2016 #38

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
2. And the NPR show interview was in 1996... and she's PROUD to be a GOLDWATER GIRL!!!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

Guess what she wasn't in 96? A teen!!!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
15. I'm from a mixed political family
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:15 PM
Apr 2016

So thats why I'm naturally an independent at my core. I just happen to lean left. Yet Hillary is to my Right. smh.

Like okay we elected someone twice to work with republicans they didn't want to play. Time to go back to a real Liberal. Enough of the Conservatives in our Party. It's still our party until I decide to leave it. and I haven't decided that yet.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
4. No one should ever trust ...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

... a one-time Republican - like, for example, Elizabeth Warren.

Amiright?

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
6. Warren never supported bigotry
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:02 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary did...at least twice. The term "Super predator" ring any bells? Here's a hint... Warren didn't say it...

Quixote1818

(28,967 posts)
14. Hillary has flat out said she thinks Move On is way too left wing
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:14 PM
Apr 2016

I really doubt Warren thinks anything close to that. Warren is clearly passionate about being liberal. My guess is Hillary will be a very centrist president. I hope I am wrong.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
18. Well, to what extent do you yourself trust Hillary...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:19 PM
Apr 2016

...to always be truthful to the American electorate? To what extent do you trust her to strive to keep campaign promises? To not change her position depending on whom she is talking to?

If you see the first two words of a headline, "Hillary flip-flops..." before seeing the rest, are the first two words that come to your mind, "yet again"?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
19. Gabby Giffords
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

was a pro Gun Democrat until..... well you know the story. She was a Conservadem until that fateful day.. Now the Irony is that most true Conservatives are pro gun control a Conservative in the Democratic Party is not the same thing as a Conservative in the Republican party. under D it's the Right wing of the party. in R it's everyone but the Tea Party and the Moderates. Yeah people change. If this were a fair game then why is she bringing up a vote from Bernie over a decade ago. People change . Voting changes. One vote verses several.

I supposed while your at it you can go after Cenk from TYT. anything else everyone already knows

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
36. No one should ever trust anyone who fails to admit they were wrong
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

I don't believe some of the things I believed 20 years ago and I have no problem repudiating them now. I think the problem comes in when you know the things you once believed in were wrong, but you refuse to acknowledge you should have known better. Because the obvious problem that presents is that some of the things you believe in now are also probably wrong, yet you lack the ability to change your ideas based on new information. To make a mistake is certainly forgivable, but to not learn from your mistakes is not. That's what makes some people untrustworthy.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
10. You'll have to forgive me if I disagree.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:08 PM
Apr 2016

Goldwater was the godfather of the modern republican party and everything they stand for.

He advocated repealing the landmark legislation ensconcing the right of people of color, women, religious minorities, and other groups to be free from discrimination. All the actions performed by modern republicans are merely shadows cast off that pillar of hate.

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
13. These things are relative.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:12 PM
Apr 2016

You are absolutely right. But comparatively speaking, Goldwater was a moderate.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
16. If we were comparing against Trump, or Cruz, or Walker... the more extreme elements... I'd agree.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)

But I think Goldwater would fit right in with average conservatives just fine.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
26. I'm with Bibzer on this
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:28 PM
Apr 2016

There's a certain strata that Goldwater fits comfortable into. It's not the Tea Party / dumbfuckery GOP that Barry would align with, but he'd feel VERY MUCH at home with the Reagan Rethug gang just fine.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
28. He was closer to what we now call libertarian
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:32 PM
Apr 2016

He just wasn't a social conservative, but that doesn't make him a moderate by a long shot.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
34. Did Hillary campaign for the use of nuclear weapons by Goldwater in Vietnam in the mid 1960's?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

Some interactive buttons on the following page for the 1964 Presidential Campaigns.

http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1964/merely-another-weapon

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
21. serendipity!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

your video posted at the exact time i posted an op in gprimaries about her lie regarding her early years supporting republicans.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
24. A whole week?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

Well, then that makes it at least a week that Hillary supporters failed to defend her stance, PROUDLY embracing a platform that promoted segregation and bigotry.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
32. They don't have to defend it.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:42 PM
Apr 2016

Just ignore it and it don't exist.

Things like that can be simple if you want them to be.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
33. I'm content with them ignoring it...because I know they will.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

In the meantime, I'll spread the word... and I know I'm not the only one.

This kind of crap should never go unchallenged!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
29. Well, I was a Nixon Girl in high school, but cast my first vote for McGovern
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

at age 21 as I went to a Liberal Arts College...ironically Nixon's alma mater. I was a Democrat from then on. I don't even remember what really changed my mind. Perhaps it was just learning to think for myself and read up on issues.

madamesilverspurs

(15,806 posts)
30. OFFS.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:37 PM
Apr 2016

She was 16, for crying out loud. SIXTEEN. SIXTEEN, in case you missed it. By the time she got to college, and out from under her republican father's roof, she was a Democrat.

Good lord, people. It's way past time to get a grip.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
31. OFFS.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:41 PM
Apr 2016

This interview was in 1996. 1996 in case you missed it. She hasn't changed a DAMN THING!
She's frickin PROUD on her choices back then. She DOUBLE DOWNED on her endorsement of Goldwater's bigotry!

It's way past time for you to get a grip.

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
37. goldwater voted against 1964 civil rights bill.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:29 AM
Apr 2016

She is proud of goldwater voting against civil rights bill?

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