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Related: About this forumColoradans DEMAND Superdelegate Senator Michael Bennet CHANGE HIS VOTE!!
&feature=youtu.beSoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)We have taken Colorado!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)he has his head in the sand
I had another super delegate sit next to me today and admit that it was a big mistake to declare early
he is open about it
Bennet - he is just angry - normal hillary supporter
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)The new generation running fast and taking the older generation along for a great ride into the future of this country --- no time for settling for incremental birdseed and stale water from the keepers. We need to turn the page on the old establishment, untrustworthy personalities and the lies to our faces that we've somehow managed to ignore all these years until an alternative showed the contrast of what we should expect for our government.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)politicians must answer to the voters that they court
The result of the democratic state assembly today - a resolution - long - it will be on line in a day or two - but it said clearly that we are not happy - we resolved to take the fight to the DNC
lots of fun in Philly this summer
Eko
(7,282 posts)Is not a politician.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)In American politics, a "superdelegate" is a delegate to the Democratic National Convention who is seated automatically and chooses for whom he or she wants to vote. These Democratic Party superdelegates include distinguished party leaders, and elected officials, including all Democratic members of the House and Senate and sitting Democratic governors.
"and elected officials, including all Democratic members of the House and Senate and sitting Democratic governors"
you think any of these might be politicians?
In fact many of these are also-- include distinguished party leaders
You must be a hillary supporter
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Bennet is the sitting senator from Colorado who today was asking me and 3000 thousand others to let him run as the democratic candidate - that is one of the many things we did today
Eko
(7,282 posts)" who is seated automatically and chooses for whom he or she wants to vote." Sure, some of them are elected politicians , governors, senators, representatives, but some of them are distinguished party leaders and not politicians at all. To recap, a delegate is not a politician, they can be in other roles but they are not elected to be a delegate. A Senator, governor? sure, but not a delegate. Yes, I am a Clinton supporter, I am also a Sanders supporter and I would rather have him as president although she would do ok.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)he was asking to vote for him to be the democratic candidate were very unhappy with him
this is how this started
""Demand"? Under what authority? This is a free country, whether they like that or not."
During his asking for support - before the motion was made to vote on who would be the candidate - thousands of people wanted him to address the issue
do you understand???
Eko
(7,282 posts)is he has to change his vote because you guys want him to or you wont vote for him. Will you follow him to the ballot box to make sure he votes correctly in the presidential election? Is that needed also? or will you guys let him have the freedom to vote for who he wants to? I can understand legislation, dude wants to lower taxes for the rich with legislation I dont think you should vote for him (example, don't know their stance),,, but voting? Seems very heavy handed.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)someone other than the people.
So voting democrat, which is what he is running to be, is not good enough. You guys are totalitarianlike.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)THAT'S what they're insisting he vote AGAINST! There's a whole, big bunch of us who are tired of being TOLD what we're gonna get as opposed to ASKED what we want.
Eko
(7,282 posts)The ones where being a Democrat is less important than supporting your candidate. See, a democrat has ideals, as a group. We understand that things wont be perfect but we can make them better. You have a cult of personality. I would rather believe in a set of ideals than a person. But that is me.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)I work for a corporation. I have given money to political candidates. That means anything I have given is labeled a corporate donation by the Sanders team, should I request my money back?
Eko
(7,282 posts)Super-delegates can be an elected official (Senators) but not all are (distinguished party leaders) hence delegates are not elected. Also they get, get, to vote for who they want to.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)again
this person was "being a politician" today and 2000 of the people...
he was asking to vote for him to be the democratic candidate were very unhappy with him
this is how this started
""Demand"? Under what authority? This is a free country, whether they like that or not."
During his asking for support - before the motion was made to vote on who would be the candidate - thousands of people wanted him to address the issue
do you understand???
Eko
(7,282 posts)You expect a loyalty oath, not to a party but to a candidate.
Eko
(7,282 posts)He wasnt running to be a Sanders candidate but a democratic candidate and as far as I can tell there are two democratic candidates up for election for president. But no, you guys need a loyalty oath that superceeds even the party by a wide margin. You guys need a cult of personality.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Planned parenthood is ruining our elections!!!!!!!!! Evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000591
As I tried to point out earlier, just because someone works for a company they are not automatically evil. That argument needs to be made with each lobbyist one at a time.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)He is free under the rules to ignore them. Then they are free to vote his ass out of office in his next election! Free country!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Demand that a Super Delegate from their district actually follow the wishes of the people?!!! Thats just a little toooooo democratic.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)You could feel the tension - The crowd let him bla bla bla for a little while - he was given a fair chance - but the whole time there were hints of what was coming
this happened again when it was clear that he was getting close to ending his speech and he still had not addressed the issue
Here in Colorado you feel the Bern or you will feel the BERN
Triana
(22,666 posts)He wants the laundered MONEY promised him in exchange for his support of Clinton (what the voters want be damned): http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)his was not happy today - wife and three young children on stage with him - it was ugly
hillary has him by the balls
Cassidy
(202 posts)I can't imagine he will change his vote to reflect Colorado support for Bernie, or that he will do anything to fundamentally change the system in order to support the 99%.
Bennet was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He is a multi-millionaire whose biggest issue in the 2008 campaign was concern for the tax bill that his multi-millionaire daughters might have to pay some day because of the deficit. Oh boo-hoo. Of course he didn't phrase it quite like that.
He had only lived in Colorado for six years before being appointed by Governor Ritter to fill the Senate seat. He originally came to Colorado to work for Phil Anschutz, the multi-billionaire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz
http://www.thecherrycreeknews.com/bennet-made-fortune-in-corporate-raid-michael-bennet/
Bennet was the superintendent of Denver Public Schools who closed a deal with JPMorgan Chase weeks after Bear Sterns failed, which cost the Denver Public Schools pension funds well over $100 million dollars in interest and fees.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/06/business/06denver.html?_r=0
I look forward to the day when he loses his seat to someone with truly democratic values.
Thank you for posting this video. It did my heart good to see "our senator" confronted so directly and made me proud to live in Colorado.
madamesilverspurs
(15,801 posts)than losing respect for people. And that happened in large measure in that room today. No fewer than three speakers were shouted down by Sanders delegates who had no interest in anything but getting their own way. Their screams drove a longtime party worker from the stage in tears, and all because she was trying to explain, to people who had no interest in gaining important information, the parameters of being a delegate or super delegate. They are taking pride in the "success" of their crude bullying. There's discourse and there's conversation. This was neither. Nothing was gained but the disgust of those who came to be part of an important process. It was unnecessary and fucking embarrassing. We went out of our way to make the convention experience a positive one for those who are new to the process. So much for that.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,801 posts)I've never been bullied into doing anything, such behavior is a lousy persuader. If I wanted to turn someone away from a candidate I'd act like those delegates acted today. And yes, there were mutterings among people who removed their Bernie stickers on their way out the door.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It's nice to know what politicians are willing to listen to the people that vote for them and which aren't.
madamesilverspurs
(15,801 posts)one of those who actually do listen to us. He's always been very responsive, regarding it as a key part of his job to acquaint himself with our concerns. He is unfailingly considerate and has never treated any of us the way he was treated today. We already lost Udall, replaced by the oily and insipid Cory Gardner. I'd hate to that what would replace Bennet.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Someone that the people who vote in Colorado want.
Cassidy
(202 posts)The form letters were so non-responsive that I am pretty sure they were sent by a computer program that had scanned my email and letter for nouns.
I am glad to hear that he has been responsive to you, but that is not the case for all of his constituents.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)the actions yesterday have put silly people no notice
You say - "unnecessary and fucking embarrassing"
I YELL - "necessary and beautiful"
And some of the politicians there yesterday are very happy to have the revolution there to back their views
the rw machine thought they had beaten down the left - made them polite little nothings -
you can stay one of those - or you can join the revolution
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Awwwwwwwwwwwww.... did some citizens color outside the lines? How horrifically UN-Democratic of them to express themselves and not let the "important" folks do the telling, eh? Have you heard about Democracy Spring - heard of what's going on in England and other "developed" nations around the globe??? The status quo has gotta go. It's what's gaining recognition as a revolution. And if some of the old status quo cling-ons don't think it's fair - well - boo-hoo.
Quite some years ago, there was a gal what lost her head over a "let-em eat cake" sorta attitude towards her constituents. Of course, today such barbarity would be cut short by more compassionate revolutionaries. But the spirit would still prevail.
RandySF
(58,799 posts)Call him at midnight or, better yet, show up his house. That'll show him your revolutionary selves.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Most super delegates will not flip for sanders