Zimmerman slipped up !!! : ''And then he put his hand on HIS NOSE --no, my nose...''

[Tx4obama]

Skip to the 1:00 mark and listen carefully starting at 1:04

''And then he put his hand on HIS NOSE --no, my nose...''

Zimmerman was playing the picture in his mind and his tongue went faster than his brain!

He is guilty as hell !!!


Edited to add:

And also watch how he moves his hands downward when talking about the hand on the nose - he gestures downward instead of bringing his hand up to his face to show how his nose was covered - most likely because it was his hand on Trayvon and not the other way around.

[JDPriestly]

1. Cenk, could you interview an expert, a lawyer about the standard of proof

on the element of reasonable fear of death or serious bodily harm for purposes of the Florida Stand Your Ground law? That is a defense.

Burden of proof

Because an affirmative defense requires an assertion of facts beyond those claimed by the plaintiff, generally the party who offers an affirmative defense bears the burden of proof.[6] The standard of proof is typically lower than beyond a reasonable doubt. It can either be proved by clear and convincing evidence or by a preponderance of the evidence. In some cases or jurisdictions, however, the defense must only be asserted, and the prosecution has the burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defense is not applicable.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_defense

Under Florida law, which party bears the burden of proof on the Stand Your Ground defense, and what is the burden. Does the prosecutor have to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the defense does not apply? Or does Zimmerman have to show that his fear was reasonable? Or does Zimmerman have to meet a higher standard of proof than just reasonable doubt?

This will be peculiar to Florida law.

I'm guessing the prosecutor may have to prove that the defense does not apply beyond a reasonable doubt, but then the Florida law I believe says that the defendant's fear has to have been reasonable, something the defendant would need to show. Any experts available on this?

I would also like to say that there is a witness who might disagree with Zimmerman's story. She is the girl who was talking to Zimmerman on the phone in the moments before the shooting. I don't know whether she will be allowed to testify as to Trayvon's statements, but she can probably testify about anything she heard Zimmerman say. The prosecutor spoke to her.

Zimmerman's story of the encounter between Zimmerman and Trayvon is a bit hard to believe considering that Zimmerman followed Trayvon some distance from his truck prior to meeting Trayvon and killing him.

[hfojvt]

2. interesting to me about the scene there

I do not see any bushes. I thought the story was that Trayvon was hiding in some bushes and then popped up and confronted Zimmerman. But since there are no bushes, it seems that Zimmerman would have been able to see Trayvon from a distance away before they could converse or before he got punched. So now this guy who had presumably been running away from you is now walking towards you. What do you do? You've got to be expecting trouble, so how do you respond to it?

[Tx4obama]

3. Also ...

in past statements Zimmerman said Trayvon attacked him from behind.

In the video Zimmerman indicated that he was facing him (from quite a few feet away) and that Trayvon approached him and punched him from the front.

Zimmerman is LYING.

[Blue_Tires]

10. I noted that as well...

Maybe ABC news can edit the background...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

4. Treyvon's mom said it was her son on the 9/11 tape screaming for his life

A voice analyst said it wasn't Zimmerman.

Zimmerman has already lied in court so a jury may decide he's lying in this video too.

Especially since the story he first told had to be changed when he went to the scene.

[Tx4obama]

5. Well, sort of ...

Zimmerman actually did not say anything 'in court' yet.

It was his WIFE that lied via the telephone to the court about their finances.

But it was George Zimmerman that turned in the passport that was about to expire and didn't turn in the 'new' replacement passport that was NOT fixin' to expire.

Bottom line: they have both shown that they are not very honest and forthcoming.

[BlueToTheBone]

9. How was he able to keep the old passport intact?

When I renewed mine, the old one came back with holes punched in it.

[uppityperson]

12. If you claim you lost it, and get a new one, and they never get their hands on your old one.

It takes longer to get a new one if you claim the old one is lost than if you send in your old one. But you then have 2 passports. Of course the old one won't get you through passport checks, but for casual use, it works and has no holes in it.

[Tx4obama]

13. Two weeks after Zim shot Trayvon he applied for a replacement passport stating he lost his original

then he turned in to the court the one he had said he had lost - that one expired or was fixing to expire very soon

the new one that he kept had a 2013 expiration date.

When the attorney found out he got the newer one from Zimmerman and turned that one into the court too.

[BlueToTheBone]

15. It's beginning to sound more like 1st degree

than 2nd.

[MADem]

16. He told the dispatcher that Trayvon was a teenager. He told the judge at his bail hearing that he

thought Trayvon was "about his age."

Unless George is under the delusion that he is a teenager, he lied to a judge in court in his fancy suit at his bail hearing. OR he lied to the police.

But he told two different stories, in any event. He could not have believed that the teen was both a teen and a man nearing thirty.

[Tx4obama]

17. I agree but...

All Zimmerman did at his bail hearing was read a statement TO the parents of Trayvon, and the part about 'the age' was in the statement to the 'parents' not to the judge, Right?

I know he did not testify regarding how much money he had, only his wife testified about the money.

So, was he even under oath when he read the statement to Trayvon's parents?

It's been a while and I can't remember every detail now.

[MADem]

18. If he answered any questions at all, I'd wager he WAS under oath.

They generally don't put you in the dock if you're not under oath.

It doesn't matter though--he's on video saying one thing to a judge, and on tape saying another thing to a dispatcher.


He has no problem lying to authority -- that is the take away.

[Politicalboi]

6. There should be Zimmerman's

DNA on Trayvon's hand if he touched his mouth and nose. Especially if it was bleeding. No DNA transfer means Zimmerman is really lying. Although I never believed him to begin with.

[krawhitham]

7. You watch a little too much CSI

There was no DNA testing done

[BootinUp]

8. Bring in Bones to do the analysis

lol.

[madmom]

11. I do believe..

the coroner said there were no marks on Martin's hands/knuckles though, so that would indicate to me that it didn't happen the way Zimmerman said it did.

[indepat]

14. If so, that might indicate premeditated murder, but then prosecutors made sure Zimmerman

would not be subject to capital punishment for the killing an unarmed black child with a pistol.