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How DNC funnels money to Hillary against Bernie... (Original Post) Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 OP
Legal or not, ethics and morality still apply in this country. We DO have an honorable alternative: Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #1
+ Eighty gazillion Scuba Apr 2016 #3
+ Eighty brazillion !! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #25
Totally agree but can we get him past a rigged election? jwirr Apr 2016 #36
They're not worried about legality. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #2
Later, when it's too late. dchill Apr 2016 #6
The old Plunder and Whoops strategy. They plunder and say, "Whoops," later. nt valerief Apr 2016 #9
So off-the-charts corrupt CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #28
Don't DARE say any truth or you 1. hurt the 'frontrunner'! 2. elect Trump! 3. are sexist! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #34
I truly regret the years Plucketeer Apr 2016 #4
This election has certainly CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #33
Coffee, has the Iowa state convention happened yet? I am jwirr Apr 2016 #39
Even the Koch brothers want her...the party and country are completely corrupted by these haikugal Apr 2016 #5
There's your sign. dchill Apr 2016 #8
Yep. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #13
George W. Bush increased government spending? Enthusiast Apr 2016 #26
Apparently. blackspade Apr 2016 #7
Crooked Clinton Gregorian Apr 2016 #10
"Clinton is a stain on the Democratic party." MissDeeds Apr 2016 #16
HRC - Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Apr 2016 #11
"Is this even legal?" dchill Apr 2016 #12
Good. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #14
If you believe that Clinton is a champion for everyday Americans, Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #20
+ 1 bazillion! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #27
What is good? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #37
Kick and R BeanMusical Apr 2016 #15
#toneitdown RATM435 Apr 2016 #17
False. Completely false. If anything she's been "funneling" money from her fundraisers... George II Apr 2016 #18
And Hillary Will Be Arrested In 3, 2, ...... Never scottie55 Apr 2016 #19
Hillary Clinton might serve her voting constiuents sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #21
Will the DNC report themselves? hahaha saidsimplesimon Apr 2016 #22
Huge +1! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #29
How can you doubt it? OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #30
It is not legal. But that no longer appears to matter to supporters. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #23
It's bribary, plain and simple. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #24
How can HRC supporters be so naive as to believe she will not owe bankers favors? YOHABLO Apr 2016 #31
This allegation is easily disproved. DWS: show us the financial book NCjack Apr 2016 #32
And open the books of state parties. If they are part of this jwirr Apr 2016 #40
Who will show theirs first? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #46
Thank you Cenk. The country needs to hear this and it needs jwirr Apr 2016 #35
They are enabling another stolen election felix_numinous Apr 2016 #38
Nah... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #41
Thanks felix_numinous Apr 2016 #42
I'm practically pissing on myself with laughter... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #43
It's a bad cartoon felix_numinous Apr 2016 #45
According to Establishment...the meme is.. Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #44
Millions of dollars spent proudly felix_numinous Apr 2016 #47
It's going to be so much fun... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #48
kick silvershadow Apr 2016 #49

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
1. Legal or not, ethics and morality still apply in this country. We DO have an honorable alternative:
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. They're not worried about legality.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

They want to coronate the Queen, by hook or by crook. They'll go "oops, sorry" later.

dchill

(38,474 posts)
6. Later, when it's too late.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016

By then, I'm sure the theory is that President Clinton II can just pardon the whole DNC and the 33 individual state Democratic party organizations. The sleaze is spread SO thick and wide.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
28. So off-the-charts corrupt
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

and underhanded.

So many parts of her campaign are nefarious, based on dirty tricks or unfair advantages. From the rigged debate schedule to the money laundering to the bizarre epidemic of primary-election and caucus debacles.

The Clinton campaign is sketchy on multiple levels.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
34. Don't DARE say any truth or you 1. hurt the 'frontrunner'! 2. elect Trump! 3. are sexist!
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

Whatever HC did while SoS can be covered by "She was working for Obama". Got it.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
4. I truly regret the years
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

I went along with the: Republicans BAD - Democrats GOOD, game. Sure, there's the honest Dem or two. But so many of them really have no choice but to get swept up in the whirlwinds of money-grubbing that is CLEARLY the primary force of propulsion in our political systems today. Does it even matter which is in power anymore? Well, yes it does. Look at Governor McCauliffe vs. Governor Brownback for contrast. But the MONEY - the fucking money.... And WHO is it that says they'll have a litmus test for prospective SCOTUS picks???

I got a small tax refund from our state taxes. I'm going to donate it to our front man's efforts. It's ALL I can do, but at least I'll know where it went and what it's spent for. It's spent on US.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
33. This election has certainly
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

blown to hell the "Republicans/bad-Democrats/bad belief.

This primary has shifted the entire paradigm. It's very clear now that the demarkations are the corrupt establishment vs the non-establishment--which is made up of many Democrats.

Whether or not those non-establishment Dems work to fight within the party to rid our party of this aggressive cancer, remains to be seen. I hope that's what happens.

These corrupters of basic democracy are powerful now, but I don't see their antics as being an effective, long-term strategy.

It's like watching Walter White slowly implode. As you get in deeper with the corruption and crimes--the number of unstable and nefarious people within the framework grows. This creates risk and instability--which requires more corruption and lies to sustain the crimes. Fans of Breaking Bad know exactly what I'm talking about.

Corruption is not an optimal long-term strategy. Furthermore, corrupt systems don't exist in a vacuum. They are part of the real world. Good guys exist in the real world too--that includes regular folks who fight corruption as well as law enforcement, powerful leaders who are not corrupt and "We The Prople" who are demanding the snuffing out of corruption within our systems.

Ultimately, the good guys will win. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen overnight.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
39. Coffee, has the Iowa state convention happened yet? I am
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

interested if there was any indications regarding this. We need to bring it up at each convention and make as much noise as possible.

If we let this drop it will be covered up and happen the next time some crooked politician is running.

We need who actually signed on to this deal so that they can be removed from leadership. The sooner someone digs deeply into this the better.

We are being asked to vote on the local party leadership in each convention we go to - are we unknowingly voting for the crooks and liars?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
5. Even the Koch brothers want her...the party and country are completely corrupted by these
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

Criminals...and the Clintons have done their part for decades.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
13. Yep.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016
Charles Koch: Clinton Might Make Better President Than Republican Candidates

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Billionaire industrialist Charles Koch, a key source of financing for conservative Republican causes along with his brother, said Democrat Hillary Clinton might make a better president than the candidates in the Republican field.

Koch, in an interview to air on Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” program, said that in some respects Bill Clinton had been a better president than George W. Bush, who Koch said had increased government spending.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-clinton-president-republicans_us_571c35c5e4b0d912d5fee371

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
26. George W. Bush increased government spending?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

Duh.

He started two wars.

Koch was playing dumb when he said that. Jeez.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
7. Apparently.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016

But still shady as hell and unethical given that our candidate hasn't been settled yet.

This is a prime example of the establishment sustaining itself.
The Democratic Party has done a swan dive into the Republican ethics mire.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
10. Crooked Clinton
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

It took Trump to point it out. How degrading.

Clinton is a stain on the Democratic party.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
16. "Clinton is a stain on the Democratic party."
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

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Both of them.

There is nothing democratic about the Democratic Party. Shameful.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
20. If you believe that Clinton is a champion for everyday Americans,
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

it figures that you would think corruption is "good."

Upside down thinking.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
37. What is good?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

An alleged non partisan leadership funneling money to destroy the only real liberal running since Carter?

Wonder if you think this is equally good:

 

RATM435

(392 posts)
17. #toneitdown
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

This is just the beginning of the corrupt 3 term of bill clinton i know, i know, tone it down.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. False. Completely false. If anything she's been "funneling" money from her fundraisers...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

...to the DNC and lower level DEMOCRATIC candidates.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
19. And Hillary Will Be Arrested In 3, 2, ...... Never
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

Laws are to be laughed at.

Champagne, and caviar anyone?

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
21. Hillary Clinton might serve her voting constiuents
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

to the extent it doesn't conflict with servicing her paying clients. One can always hope.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
22. Will the DNC report themselves? hahaha
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

I support Senator Sanders and agree with those Democratic leaders, like VP Biden, who say we need an alternative to Clinton all the way to the election and perhaps even beyond.

I am not discouraged by Mrs. Clinton’s win in NY. In fact, the voter suppression going on at the polls in many states is so disgraceful it did encourage me to make another donation to Senator Sanders’ campaign.

What’s going on in the CBC (DNC,DSC) as it relates to Donna Edwards? Are Clinton supporters trying to influence the outcome of this election? Is she being punished for taking Progressive positions and supporting Senator Sanders’ campaign? I will donate to Rep. Edwards’ campaign even though I do not live in Maryland.

Black Lives Matter

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
24. It's bribary, plain and simple.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

The powers that be do not want Bernie, so they are funneling their money to a launderer, who will distribute it not equally to ALL candidates, but to one crooked candidate, who will accept the bribe.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
31. How can HRC supporters be so naive as to believe she will not owe bankers favors?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

How can these people turn a blind eye to all of this. Well I guess I've about answered my own question in that the MSM is not reporting this malfeasance. Nada.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
40. And open the books of state parties. If they are part of this
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

deal they need to tell us now. I wonder if members if the party have any right to see the books?

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
46. Who will show theirs first?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

Will Hillary release the Wall Street transcripts first, or will DWS be the first?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. Thank you Cenk. The country needs to hear this and it needs
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

to hear it before the state conventions. This needs to be a huge issue at state conventions for one big reason. By making this deal the 33 states have taken away our vote.

They are deliberately giving one candidate a huge head start before we ever got to vote and before even one debate was heard. In doing so these state leaders have lost any faith we have placed in them and that is what they deserve.

I would like to see this investigated by a neutral party to find out just exactly how this was accomplished. Is there anyone at the top we can trust? Who in the party knew this was being done? How far down in the party leadership is this reaching?

I am a delegate for Bernie. Have been to the caucus and a convention as well as a committee meeting for the local area. How am I supposed to know who to trust?

And as a delegate I have got to tell you that I am under no illusions that what I am doing at these meetings has anything to do with electing a nominee even though my state went for Bernie.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
38. They are enabling another stolen election
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

instead of doing their jobs to assure all votes are counted. They are part of the problem, looking the other way while this election has been obviously tampered with.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
43. I'm practically pissing on myself with laughter...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

But that's just the cynical Carlinist in me coming out...

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