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Clinton Positions Herself to the Right of Trump in Major National Security Speech (Original Post) Gregorian Jun 2016 OP
Sure she did ... Sanity is usually right. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #1
so what has Putin done that American presidents have not done? ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #3
You really believe Putin saved President Obama's ass. Huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #6
inform me, strongblackman. show me some facts, links, etc. while we are on the subject, ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #8
She was great in that speech-destroyed Trump. apcalc Jun 2016 #2
So he's gone now? truebluegreen Jun 2016 #4
She told us just how ready she is for war. As Secretary of State she wanted sanction against the DhhD Jun 2016 #9
What's with the "positions herself to the right of Trump" spin? brush Jun 2016 #5
Right. And I'm sick of reading the pissiness of fellow Berners around here about her. ancianita Jun 2016 #7
"we came, we saw, he died." ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #11
Not the sum of her foreign policy and you know it. ancianita Jun 2016 #12
Robert Kagan and Henry Kissinger support Clinton. ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #13
I do. But times are changing. Neocons will always be around with a lot of money, if not influence. ancianita Jun 2016 #14
Clinton supported regime change in Libya, Syria, and Honduras. She, I think, supports regime change ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #15
That's a good option, thanks. Regime change has been abandoned as a military strategy. ancianita Jun 2016 #16
Understand class warfare. It's the Oligarchs against all of us. The Clintons have aquiered ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #17
I already have in the Illinois primary. The oligarchs now see us. Now we'll see about California. ancianita Jun 2016 #18
Kick his monkey-ass, Hillary ! c588415 Jun 2016 #10
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. Sure she did ... Sanity is usually right. ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jun 2016

I can't believe anyone calling themselves a Democrat, a liberal or a progressive, would even come to the conclusion that Don D. Con has even taken a coherent position on ... well ... any damned thing.

But then, again ... we had DUers, claiming to be Democrats, and liberals, and progressives, praising Putin.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. You really believe Putin saved President Obama's ass. Huh? ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jun 2016

That so precious ... ignorant of the facts; but, precious.

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
8. inform me, strongblackman. show me some facts, links, etc. while we are on the subject,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jun 2016

what has Russia done to you?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
9. She told us just how ready she is for war. As Secretary of State she wanted sanction against the
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:55 PM
Jun 2016

women and children of Iran to become harsher, just as she said.

I believe that harsh sanctions against Iraqis made it impossible for the Iraqis to take Saddam down themselves. Severe sanctions such as no medicine for the children of Iraq began under the Clinton Administration.

brush

(53,778 posts)
5. What's with the "positions herself to the right of Trump" spin?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jun 2016

How is she to the right of Trump on anything when no one knows his position on anything?

Why not just say she positioned herself to the right of "the establishment", which seems to be what Sanders-ism you're going for?

It was a good general election speech aimed at discrediting her opponent but we still get anti-Hillary spin on it.

I mean let's be clear on who the enemy is now — it's Trump, not Hillary, and not Sanders.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
7. Right. And I'm sick of reading the pissiness of fellow Berners around here about her.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:49 PM
Jun 2016

I was deeply impressed by her speech today. It was the best I've ever heard her give, and she'll be damned hard to beat.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
14. I do. But times are changing. Neocons will always be around with a lot of money, if not influence.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

I hold that, if Bernie loses the nomination, her presidency will be better than you imagine.

It's a poor party spirit that puts out so much Hillary hate around here.

We need not poison each other with fears that usually don't prove true in Democratic presidencies.

Democratic infighting is like blood for the GOP vampire, strengthening it while weakening us, the unwitting, fearful host.

Not good for long term political party strength.

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
15. Clinton supported regime change in Libya, Syria, and Honduras. She, I think, supports regime change
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

in Iran and Russia. Clinton depressed the minimum wage in Haiti. The Clintons are not your friends, unless you are an Oligarch.
vote for Sanders in the primary and if the DNC steals the nomination, write Sanders in, in the general.
your support for the real democratic candidate is greatly appreciated!

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
16. That's a good option, thanks. Regime change has been abandoned as a military strategy.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jun 2016

Now regime change is used -- as in Venezuela -- as an oligarchic trade strategy.

Hillary won't second guess Pentagon advice. All the stuff we hate about our military dominance is not her invention, but the Pentagon's and previous New American Century designers.

If I have to live with her as commander-in-chief, I'll logically expect her to get plenty of good advice from Obama and other allied leaders.

You needn't keep up the level of distrust that kept this primary heated. Just sayin.'

I know Hillary's not my friend. But I still believe I don't have to see her as my enemy, either.

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
17. Understand class warfare. It's the Oligarchs against all of us. The Clintons have aquiered
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

153 million dollars doing the Nation's business and "charity". They are not Oligarchs, but they are well on their way.
vote for the real democrat, SANDERS!

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