Sanders surrogate Tulsi Gabbard: 'I’m not prepared’ to back Clinton

[berniesandero]

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[Buddyblazon]

1. I've been coming around...

embracing W though? Wow. Just...wow.

[forest444]

105. Who´s embracing Dubya?

I mean, besides Victor Ashe and the Iraq War profiteers.

[apcalc]

2. Truly don't care

Just want to beat whatever R is offered up.

[colorado_ufo]

3. Highly intelligent, gracious, and principled answer.

[lewebley3]

22. This woman is supporting the fascism of Trump: she has no principles

[KPN]

33. Huh? How'd you draw that from the interview?

Oh yeah, you placed conditions on her -- support Hillary or you are a traitor. Sort of like what GW did before we waltzed into Iraq.

You people are just too damned much. No wonder you are worried.

[stopbush]

55. Hillary supporters are hardly worried.

Wishfully negative thinking by Sanders supporters.

It's boring and irrelevant. Get out of the bubble.

[KPN]

59. BS. If you are not worried, why do you attack anyone who has a different view.

Seems to me, the only relevance you folks have is to Hillary and the status quo.

[stopbush]

73. Silly. Even Sanders has admitted that he agrees with Hillary 93% of the time.

Any differences they have are a matter of degree, not dogma.

Sanders was not ready to be CiC. Hillary is more than ready. Easy decision for those not conned by empty promises of free stuff.

[KPN]

92. That's voting record ... not agreement on

where to take the country and how. There is a huge gulf between the two in that regard.

[Palimpsestuous]

93. I wish you could hear how silly you sound

Just because Bernie and Hillary voted the same way on 93% of the votes available to them in Congress, that is NOTHING resembling "agreeing with Hillary 93% of the time." Their disagreements are between a Progressive and a center right Republican. Why, do you suppose it's so nearly impossible for Bernie supporters to switch to Hillary? It's because, relative to Bernie, she is absolutely, without any doubt, a neoliberal neocon, i.e. a DINO acting like a Republican. Hillary Clinton is running against Trump because her husband and Obama pushed Republicans out of their place by acting just like them, except for issues of identity politics and climate change. Hillary doesn't even give a shit about climate change, leaving one category of issues with which she aligns as an actual Progressive.

It absolutely kills me how Hillary supporters actually use the same "talking points" just like Republicans do. If you can't see her as she is, I cannot help you. On the other hand, maybe you're fine with her Republican objectives, attitudes and tactics.

[roguevalley]

119. welcome aboard. I agree with you. :D

[OwlinAZ]

124. Many of them are Republicans

[shenmue]

101. You lost

[roguevalley]

120. I wouldn't laugh to fast.

This is coming shortly.

It was supposed to be filed this week but is being held until the California data is in. You can howl with laughter all you want but the landslide is coming from every direction.

[MrMickeysMom]

126. Why does this please you?

[still_one]

108. Interesting that you bring that up. How come anyone who has supported Bernie who announces they

now stand with Hillary the presumptive nominee gets attacked by a good number of Bernie supporters here?supporters

[LiberalLovinLug]

70. I think you mean "get INTO the bubble"

Where you have no worries or questions. All is good. Don't change a thing. Nothing to see here folks, move along. Continue on with the Republican-lite polices.

[Jester Messiah]

112. I'm Ready For Cersei! [nt]

[Dustlawyer]

114. The Hillary Clinton Group is about to expand to all of DU shortly.

Seems they are all ready for the echo chamber ahead of schedule.

Bernie has pulled the curtains back on the dirty secret of the complete control over our politicians and the MSM by the Oligarch's. With DU becoming the "Hillary Cannot be Questioned" site, it seems they are taking over the Internet one Progressive site at a time! They will spend whatever it takes to do it too!

There is no convincing any of the Hillary supporters at this point of the truth, but facts are still facts. We allow legal bribery of our elected officials and leave our electronic voting a big unprotected mess, what do we expect? The media sure don't talk about it except to rank candidates by how much in legal bribes each has raked in. We are supposed to believe every politician who takes money from big donors that it has no effect, when a Princeton study shows that it absolutely does! Do we really even need a study to confirm this?

Viva the political revolution!

[LiberalLovinLug]

117. Right on

[Politicub]

132. I'm ready for the false equivalency to end

It's a waste of time.

[bkkyosemite]

78. bubble......................nah

[MADem]

64. This isn't new--and what's with the "you people" crap?

Do watch the video at the link I provided to you elsewhere in this thread. Trump gets his talking points from her.

smdh.

[KPN]

94. What's "this?"

You folks? Hillary supporters who act outraged that Bernie hadn't congratulated Hillary on victory. He's just staying true to his word. I find it remarkable that anyone here at DU finds that outrageous in progressive politician. It's frankly quite small minded and characteristic of authoritarian persona.

[MADem]

96. "You people" has a specific meaning in some communities.

"You folks" doesn't work either.

I'll let Rachel explain it to you:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/you-people-new-generation

If you google the term, you'll get an earful.

No one's outraged at Sanders (that's quite the stretch to even imagine that) --some might be disappointed, or even dismayed, but outraged? Pfffft. He's coming off as churlish, childish, and small-minded, but it's all on him. He can "come with" or he can get left behind. Petty is not a good look and it does not improve with time.

Elizabeth Warren has joined the Clinton campaign and is doing the job Sanders has yet to step up and do. SHE is getting the media attention, HER words are being rebroadcast over and over again.

She was the "preferred progressive" in the first place, anyway. So...whatever.

[KPN]

98. Consult a mirror.

[MADem]

99. I've HEARD the term aimed at me, so perhaps you need that mirror, sport. nt

[lewebley3]

137. The election is not about Hillary: Its about the poor and elderly American's

that would go hungry under Trump. I am not worried about myself
at all, I will be fine. Sanders people only care about themselves and
not other American's. Hillary is the only choice to protect others.

[ybbor]

60. I have yet to see you make ONE intelligent comment

In however many months you have been commenting here for HRC, your comments are so unprincipled and idiotic. I cannot believe I am replying to you, but your comments are on par with a first grader.

It's truly mind boggling!

[MrMickeysMom]

88. Isn't it?

I mean..... Jeebus on a cracker, for Crrriisssake, come on!

[lewebley3]

136. My comments are valuable enough for you: and calling people names hardly

speaks well of you.

[ybbor]

141. I call them as I see them

Your comments offer nothing of substance ever.

Again, I cannot believe I am even acknowledging you.

[MrMickeysMom]

87. Derp

[INdemo]

115. So you lnow for a fact then she is supporting Trump?

What you don't understand is there are one hell of a lot of Democrats that hate Hillary Clinton because she is not a Democrat
She is a Wall Street puppet.Forget Trump..Hillary could be running against "Anybody but Hillary" on the ticket and lose.

[lewebley3]

135. It not about Hillary: is about the poor and elderly going hungery under Trump:

and if you are hater the DNC don't need you.

[OwlinAZ]

123. Or, she has more principles than Democrats who go along with the herd.

[lewebley3]

134. She doesn't care if about the elderly or the poor going hungry under Trump:

She only cares about herself. That is her real principle

[Cooley Hurd]

4. I appreciate her principled stand.

Up until the convention, I will continue to, as Congresswoman Gabbard is, support Senator Sanders, After the convention, I will support the Democratic nominee for POTUS, which will likely be Secretary Clinton.

Idealist first; pragmatist afterwards.

[lunatica]

7. ditto

And it's not just because I support Bernie, the person. It's because I support every single principle and issue he stands for.

[turbinetree]

9. You got that right it was about Principles

prin·ci·ple
ˈprinsəpəl/Submit
noun
plural noun: principles
1.
a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.
"the basic principles of Christianity"
synonyms: truth, proposition, concept, idea, theory, assumption, fundamental, essential, ground rule
"elementary principles"
2.
a fundamental source or basis of something.
"the first principle of all things was water"


Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[Duval]

16. My feelings, too. nt

[lunatica]

21. Yeah. If Hilary ran on Bernie's issues

I'd support her.

[stopbush]

74. That's why those of us who voted for Hillary want her to adopt 0%

of Sanders' demands.

We voted for Hillary's platform, not Sanders'. She won, decisively. There is no reason on Earth for her to adopt policies that mustered only 43% of the vote.

[skylucy]

80. Yes!

HILLARY 2016

[lunatica]

125. only?

You're using Republican math. Like Bush winning his second term by 50 to 48 only to call his win a MANDATE!

[stopbush]

127. Yeah, only.

Nearly 6 out of 10 voters picked Hillary over Sanders. By any metric you choose, that's a blow-out.

[lunatica]

128. Remember that when she goes to war next time

[stopbush]

129. Yawn. Boring, repetitive and not true.

Just like Sanders' stump speech.

[lunatica]

130. congratulations on not being a gloater.

[stopbush]

131. Oh, I'm gloating, for sure.

If there was ever any group of people who deserved to be gloated at it's the insufferable Sanders supporters on DU.

You've earned every second of gloating Hillary supporters can dish out, and then some.

[Kokonoe]

118. Me Too!

She did pretend.

[lewebley3]

23. Sanders stands for gun violence and the NRA

[lunatica]

25. You're quite transparent you know

Are you against the 2nd Amendment? Or just someone who takes pot shots against Sanders? I'm talking about your posts downthread.

[Gore1FL]

49. Every post of yours is binary and bewildered nt

[ybbor]

142. Exactly

I cannot believe the idiocy of his/her posts. Never anything displaying cognitive thought.

"Kill, Crush, Destroy"

Repeat

[avaistheone1]

57. Fail.

Your deceit and cunning grow continually weaker and less effective.

[lewebley3]

139. No the truth is always the truth

[MrMickeysMom]

89. Derp!

[KPN]

35. YES! THIS ^^^

[NorthCarolina]

5. #ImWithHer, and

by that I mean Tulsi Gabbard.

[MissDeeds]

15. Same here n/t

[Iwillnevergiveup]

6. And a huge loss for the DNC. n/t

[lewebley3]

18. Good riddance to self serving Sanders

[KPN]

38. Re: self-serving -- Pot, meet the kettle.

You obviously don't care about the middle class, world peace, corruption in governance/elections, etc., etc.

[Gore1FL]

50. That poster only sees the world in black and white terms

Unfortunately, that leaves little room for gray matter.

[KPN]

53. Lol!!!!

[lewebley3]

133. Hillary is the only pogressive choice: Sanders has never worked for mid class: he

only talks about it.

[KPN]

143. You just proved the point made in Post #50 above.

[MrMickeysMom]

90. ...

[wisteria]

8. Who cares?

We will all do just fine without this malcontent.

[McKim]

32. Yeah, What's Wrong with Her?

Yeah, what's wrong with her, why wasn't she willing to just shut up and go back to Iraq to die for a lie? Why isn't she just laying down in front of the war machine like a good little girl?

[BlueCaliDem]

36. Yep. And may Shay Chan Hodges win the primary challenge against Gabbard and be the next

TRUE Democrat in the U.S. Rep. for Maui.

[KPN]

39. Yeah, run the ungrateful's off. That'll show 'em!

Intelligent.

[Laser102]

10. Aww, miss focus on me. She also isn't ready to support the gun bills. Terrorists should have access

to weapons. It seems she is more concerned with being in front of the cameras. No matter. My only hope is Madam President Clinton remembers her kindness and support. Perhaps her constituents will as well.

[Surya Gayatri]

11. ^^^This!^^^

It seems she is more concerned with being in front of the cameras.

[Ford_Prefect]

13. At least she didn't have to lie to the cameras about where the incoming was and who sent it.

[lewebley3]

19. She is full of herself: Trumps fascism on the poor an elderly Okay

with her.

[brush]

31. She's a repug in Dem clothing, replete with their talking points, masquerading as a Democrat, . . .

and she's a supreme opportunist, which is why she quit the DNC and joined the Sanders campaign.

She thought he was going to win and she'd maybe snare VP or at least a cabinet post.

How many Dems do you see bashing a president from their own party? She's done this repeatedly in the past. Maybe that's why she fitted in so well in Sanders campaign.

[KPN]

41. Lol! "Miss focus on me" -- that's grand

coming from the Hillary camp!!! Irony at its finest.

[Phlem]

111. yep. Completely lost on them.

[billh58]

12. Tulsi Gabbard's early influence

was her father Mike Gabbard:

Gerald Michael "Mike" Gabbard (born January 15, 1948) is a Democratic member of the Hawaii Senate, representing District 20. He has been a Senator since 2006. He has social conservative political views and rose to prominence for his successful effort to pass an amendment to the Constitution of Hawaii in 1998 to give the state legislature "the power to reserve marriage to opposite-sex couples".[citation needed] He is also a businessman and musician.

-Snip-

In 1995, Mike Gabbard co-founded the nonprofit Stop Promoting Homosexuality America,[5] which filed for the trade name Alliance For Traditional Marriage, "to educate the general public about the necessity of preserving traditional marriage".[6] Gabbard served as president[7] until the organization's involuntary dissolution in 2004.

-Snip-

On August 30, 2007, Gabbard switched from the Republican Party of Hawaii to the Democratic Party of Hawaii. His stated reason for doing so was that he believed that he could be more effective to his constituents as part of the majority party in the State Senate, where Democrats have long had a supermajority.[16] This switch in parties has been of some controversy, including repeated complaints regarding his opposition to the Democratic Party of Hawai'i's platform, and possible actions that may impact other Democrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gabbard

Tulsi has similar rightward leanings as her father -- she is just a little more politically savvy and has huge ambitions.

[avaistheone1]

62. If Gabbard were a right-winger she would be supporting Clinton.

Heavens! it is Clinton who is in bed with the 1% and Wall Street!!

Even Clinton's precious logo points right...

[billh58]

66. Tulsi Gabbard Slams Obama for Not Saying ‘Radical Islam ...

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tulsi+gabbard+and+obama&view=detail&mid=BC20E0FD78115FB90A4DBC20E0FD78115FB90A4D&FORM=VIRE

Sound familiar? Trump parrot?

[nationalize the fed]

84. Tulsi changed her mind on LGBT issues

kind of like how Obama changed his mind on an insurance mandate, only better

Tulsi Gabbard's Moment of Truth

Rumor is that your support of the LGBT community is not genuine. Given your (and your father’s) statements against LGBT rights in the past, why should people believe you've changed?

Tulsi: I've gone through some extraordinary experiences over the last decade, which have led me to realize that I could not, in good conscience, fight for liberty and freedom overseas while advocating something less than that here at home. That was an important decision for me and, in that context, I fully recognize that protecting the equal rights of all Americans, including those in the LGBT community, is an obligation we must strive to fulfill. This personal journey makes sense to most people I talk to.
http://www.expression808.com/home/2012/7/5/tulsi-gabbards-moment-of-truth.html

Also see; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard#LGBT_issues

Tulsi is the future of the Democratic party.

[billh58]

86. Most Hawaii Democrats

that I know view her differently. She was elected primarily by her father's conservative backers.

[nationalize the fed]

102. Which of these policies do Hawaii Democrats disagree with?

and which of these policies below are conservative?

Just curious

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) restates the need for transparency in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) on the House floor.

Big Bank Bailouts

On Spying and the 4th Amendment

Tulsi questions "Defense" Secretary Ashton "Goldman Sachs" Carter

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard calls for labeling of GMO food on the House Floor

Bernie Sanders and the cost of war

Official House Page: http://gabbard.house.gov/

I'd walk over broken glass to elect Tulsi.

[billh58]

104. I don't disagree

with any of those policies, and neither do most Hawaii Democrats. As I said earlier, Tulsi is more politically astute than her father, but she remains a "conservative" Democrat and she is highly ambitious.

I hope you don't cut your feet too badly...

[kjones]

122. Lol...Okay

Yeah....she makes comments about "homosexual extremists" and you guys are like, "yeah, just changing her mind"...

Oh but Clinton, she makes a minor shift (relative to that) and calculating and evil?

You guys are all so transparent.

[Night Watchman]

14. So Don't!

I couldn't possibly care less.

[Equinox Moon]

17. More and more people are learning how to be strong with the press.

I have noticed many people are not just 'taking it' with the press's pressure agenda. They stand up for themselves and answer empowered.

Go Tulsi!

[lewebley3]

20. Its easy stand up went you are just out for yourself like Sanders people

[Equinox Moon]

24. What a rude comment to my post

I am offended. It is an inappropriate dig.

[freebrew]

28. Trying to get a response....

The poster you've encountered lies and disrupts constantly.

Always one-line snarks against Bernie.
He must hate life to post some of the things I've read.

Or there's another word for it, TOS prevents typing it.

[Equinox Moon]

29. I see that rude poster has made several inappropiate comments in this thread

against Bernie and Hillary. Maybe it is time for an alert.

[freebrew]

34. Won't help...

he strictly bashes Bernie. That seems acceptable here, no matter the lie.
If any of the Bernie bashers had said the same of hillary, they would certainly report it.
And yes, it is rude and insulting

It's almost as if someone doesn't want the left to vote for HRC.

Wonder just who would benefit from that?

[Equinox Moon]

42. Thanks, FreeBrew

Plus, when someone posts like that it is only revealing of them-selves, verses contributing in any constructive way on a thread.

[Marty McGraw]

68. I'm starting to think

that the poster is one of those corrupted bots that are thrown wildly out to the interwebs in an experiment aimed toward learning how to interract with the general public and has gone completely short-circuited.

[Equinox Moon]

76. >>>>

[A Simple Game]

95. I feel the same about the bot thing, but I can't figure out what the

key word would have been in post #17 that would have triggered a response.

[Amimnoch]

45. Well, this Hillary supporter

Agrees with you. I'm also glad to see standing up to the press as well.

[Equinox Moon]

48. Indeed!

[lewebley3]

138. Then the Truth offends you: not supporting Hillary, will

leave the poor to the mercy of Trumps fascism. That doesn't
matter to Sanders supporter their principles are more important
than people.

[KPN]

44. Exactly!

[Loki]

26. So this is the "new" kind of Democrat?

Well, I'm not prepared to call you a Democrat Ms. Gabbard, nor will I support someone who doesn't support my values and will not work to defeat the fascist who calls himself Trump. Get the f**k out of my party.

[KPN]

47. Lol!!!!

The height of intolerance when you demand unthinking allegiance or else banishment.

Geesh! How very democratic of you.

[Ned_Devine]

103. It definitely wasn't the type of response I'd expect from someone who's been here so long

[earthshine]

71. New democrats include Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton.

They are the so-called third-way, who greatly favor the rights of corporations over people.

They have little in common with traditional democrats like FDR, JFK, LBJ, and JC.

Why don't YOU get the f**k out of MY party?

[LiberalLovinLug]

140. + 1000

[MADem]

27. How can she be legitimately called a "Sanders surrogate?"

If she is a genuine Sanders clone, then he has sold a lot of his supporters a bill of goods. Tulsi Gabbard is a Republican in a Democratic uniform.

The good news, though, is that she has a real-life liberal challenger!

http://mauitime.com/news/politics/maui-democratic-party-activist-shay-chan-hodges-says-shes-running-against-u-s-rep-tulsi-gabbard/


This individual appears to have an actual LIBERAL agenda (as opposed to a protectionist, shades-of-right-wing, Let's Bomb Syria and insult my CinC boss "progressive(?)" agenda).

The Darling of Fauxsnooze will probably survive the challenge (since she appeals to conservative Democrats AND Republicans-and she has fooled a lot of new voters with this "progressive" badge, now), but it's probably not a bad idea to let her know that she is indeed vulnerable.

[KPN]

51. I dunno about real liberal challenger. THere's much more to being a real liberal than

womens rights. We shall see.

[MADem]

63. Wouldn't you aver that "women's rights" (to say nothing of rights for ALL of us, to

include "minority" and "gay" rights) is a flipping CORNERSTONE of a "liberal agenda?"

I'm afraid with Gabbard, you've been sold a bill of goods--she is not a "liberal," and she's not even a genuine "progressive."

It looks to me like Trump gets his talking points from HER--she was a year ahead of him on this screed (courtesy of Fauxsnooze):

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4035947540001/rep-tulsi-gabbard-on-ignoring-ideology-in-the-war-on-terror/#sp=show-clips

The Obama smackdown following the mass murder in Orlando applies to her, too, I'd say.

[KPN]

83. Of course, but ...

there are too many so called liberals who support DLC/Third Way/Neoliberal/New Democrat economic theory and policy ... which to my way of thinking, is anathema to real liberalism. And that affects all, not just categories of people. Can't really be one without the other.

[MADem]

91. People who do not support equal rights in all their forms are not Democrats.

Anyone can gripe about "DLC" (organization has been defunct for a half decade now, and dormant even longer, but never mind that), and "neoliberal/New Dem" economic theory all the live-long day, but people who aren't for equality in all its forms are NOT Democrats.

That's the bottom line.

Our tent is big--and it shelters liberal Dems, moderate ones, and (like it or not) conservative ones too--but there are some basic views that are quite frankly, tells. A failure to robustly endorse quality in all forms is one of 'em.

[KPN]

97. You are putting words into my mouth MADem.

One can support equal rights "in all forms" but not support economic theory/policy that is in the best interest of workers/middle class. Or one can support both. Neo-libs don't support both. Hillary's a neoliberal. DLC ushered neoliberalism into the Democratic Party as the economic theory favored by party leadership -- defunct or not, that's relevant!

In case I haven't been straight-forward enough, I support equal rights among all people 100% and always have. So what's your bone with that?

[Squinch]

30. Lack of preparation is a hallmark of this campaign.

[deathrind]

37. Good for her!

Huge loss for the DHRCNC.

[Amimnoch]

40. I thought she spoke very well.

No insults. No condescension. She has her opinion, and her right to it.

Personally, I have nothing but respect for her delivery. I disagree with her, but total respect. Respect doesn't have to = agreement.

[youceyec]

43. This lady

a while back kept refusing to condemn Trump for one his outrageous comments. I forgot which. She had to be pushed a several times to even acknowledge the question. Ill never forger that. She isn't a real democrat either.

[jtuck004]

65. And a combat veteran, and elected Representative, and more of a Democrat than some

pre-pubescent rando.

We know this because she actually accomplishes things, as opposed to, well, this.

:ROFL:

[youceyec]

106. shes a repub

not sure why she claims otherwise.

[Geronimoe]

46. Stein & Tulsi 2016

yeah baby! These two leaders I can support.

[KPN]

52. We need more elected officials like her; people who aren't afraid of

swimming against the current when the current leads in the wrong direction; people with real conviction.

[840high]

56. Yes we do. Very rare nowadays.

[stopbush]

54. Another D pol who backed the wrong horse

and is heading into political obscurity with Nina Turner.

[vdogg]

58. Bye Felicia!

[johnp3907]

61. "Non-entity Supports Trump" in other words.

[earthshine]

72. Binary thinker -- supports ignorance

Let's see if you can grasp some nuance.

I will not be voting for Clinton. As I live in NC, my vote will have no effect on the actual outcome. Therefore, I have the luxury of not voting for her. I support neither her nor Trump. I will not have my vote contribute to any delusion-of-mandate that I expect her to assume after winning the election.

The only reason she will win with popular support is that Trump is more awful.

I will be voting for down-ticket dems because the NC government is overrun with republicans and the state needs balance.

[NurseJackie]

67. Then move out of the way! Step aside! We'll take it from here!

[Geronimoe]

69. Tulsi has the wisdom only a soldier can have

"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity." President Eisenhower

[SirBrockington]

75. This rep gets a lot of exposure lately

[skylucy]

77. Because she is a nut job.

HILLARY 2016

[bkkyosemite]

79. I think you better read her bio...she is not a nut job.

[TryLogic]

81. She is the coolest politician on the planet

[TryLogic]

82. I just read some other posts -- above. How sad and sickening.

I had not seen much from Clinton supporters lately. I am sickened by the hatefulness.

Tulsi is a person who stands up for what she believes, shows good judgment based on experience, is well-spoken, and from what I have seen, walks the talk.

[TryLogic]

85. Maybe this (below) is the reason Clinton supporters are so tense:

"Cliff Arnebeck, the chair of the Legal Affairs Committee of Common Cause Ohio said there will be a racketeering lawsuit filed “under the Ohio Racketeering law, the strongest in the country and we can bring in every state, our RICO statute is coextensive with the federal RICO statute… So they’re nailed.”

The suit alleges that Hillary won by rigging the vote.

It appears there is another similar lawsuit being filed by the Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity.

I'm getting this from various internet sources.

[Moonwalk]

116. John Oliver covered the issues of the primaries and their considerable problems very well...

...and yet found Hilary's win genuine in spite of all that. Do take a look at the video below. I'll add that almost every poster here (that I've read) agrees that the primary rules need serious changing. Hilary and Sanders supports alike. But as you'll see in the video, the problems aren't entirely the fault of the party as states get a say in how they want to do things as well.

As for lawsuits being filed...I'm sure. Lawsuits were filed against Obama being president, saying that he wasn't born in America. They went to the Supreme Court, which decided that they were not true. So, all we're really saying when we point to a lawsuit being filed is that someone believes they can prove something is true, not that something is true.

[zentrum]

100. Love real Democrats.

Wow, are they ever refreshing and different from the Establishment.

[liberal N proud]

107. This what happens when outsiders fail in their coup of the Democratic Party

[Sienna86]

109. She's a veteran and earned the right to speak her mind. Nt

[DownriverDem]

110. Her right, but ...

We all need to be clear about this. This movement is bigger than Bernie or Hillary. A Dem win in November puts it all in motion. Young folks lives will be a living hell with a Trump Supreme Court. So we all need to understand what this is all about.

[Geronimoe]

113. Those who serve in the military

are more concerned about not dying for a mistake instead of partisan politics.

[sangfroid]

121. Quite right

My dad spent WWII in the Pacific. After he came home, he would spend months prior to an election pouring over campaign literature to ensure he was voting for the peace candidate. He told me "I never want anyone to go through that again."