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ancianita

(36,053 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:53 PM Sep 2016

If You Want To Help The Sioux: Military Check Points on North Dakota's Route 1806

Last edited Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Various videos show how National Guard persons randomly let some and not other supporters through to the First Nations protest.



This guy.



Then there's Unicorn Riot's video site, where the loading is slow but the explanations are important.

http://www.unicornriot.ninja/?p=8584

These show a bit of classic troop counterinsurgency model -- attacking civilians -- used in Indian war days: cut off supplies and help, intimidate "insurgents" with arrest and animal attack, wait them out through privation and upcoming bad weather, then go in and round them up. Maybe take them to Forts Yates or Rice, who knows. Keep surrounding populations in the dark about it all.

Our Indigenous are "insurgents" in this legally designated "battleground" (NDAA 2013) country where land base control of resources is stolen and sold.
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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
4. So the jerk governor of the state of North Dakota
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:36 AM
Sep 2016

has decided to have the militia set up "check points" to prevent the media and others to have access to duly support their Constitutional right to protest and to report whats is going on, all under the First Amendment protections.

Then to have everyone running around in circles, you can't come in this way you have to go that way---------------really.

I would have asked under what "Writ" authority was obtained and what court order and to give me the name and number of the "Writ and the Order"

This is not some military exercise, that can be willy-nilly put in place, where is the court order, and who signed in on it, what is the judges name, and what "rule"

And the militia is suppose to duly protect that Constitution right, am I missing something here or what, or is there a selection process for the state militia, don't think so

It is now time to call for the Impeachment of the Governor Dalrymple III, and as for Heithkamp and Hoeven, Cramer, to find out who and what part of the oath do they operate under of the Constitution or do they have some other rendition or another form of the Constitution.

And yes I am being critical of the senators and the congressman, not one of them has said anything about this issue to the Corp and the energy company>

The Governor and the congressional delegation and there self righteous duty to continue the doctrines of Manifest Destiny and the Doctrine of Discovery are suppose to honor the treaties of 1851 & 1868, the words in the Constitution, and the 1990 Act.

Just maybe while the Congressional delegation is getting ready to take some time off, you know working only 111 days out of 365 is just so demanding in Congress and budding up to your oil and gas interest is just more important than the 206 water ways and two major rivers under threat affecting millions of animals and people, and let's not forget the Lakota and Cheyenne Sioux and other Indigenous People and there rights and your rights to have clean water and no desecration of scared ground, burial land--------------where are they, anyone from the region heard anything from them?

You know the same people making $174,000 a year working 111 days out of the year, hear anything from them, one peep?

How would they feel if the state militia was set up on the roads that lead into the place they want to live and protect---------------where are there principles----------------that's the question principles and scruples

https://www.nps.gov/nagpra/MANDATES/INDEX.HTM


http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title25-chapter32&saved=%7CKHRpdGxlOjI1IHNlY3Rpb246MzAwMSBlZGl0aW9uOnByZWxpbSkgT1IgKGdyYW51bGVpZDpVU0MtcHJlbGltLXRpdGxlMjUtc2VjdGlvbjMwMDEp%7CdHJlZXNvcnQ=%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7Cprelim&edition=prelim




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ancianita

(36,053 posts)
5. Don't be so sure there's a judge behind this. An order from the gov suffices. Notice their
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 10:57 AM
Sep 2016

reticence over keeping people from "going their way." They play just-following-orders stupid while their compromised oaths to uphold the Constitution make them uncomfortable.

I read that any military person can refuse to follow what s/he deems are illegal orders. Perhaps that's why some let people drive into the camp.

There should be some lawyers and judges to challenge this governor. Where the hell are they.

You can bet that there are just enough Big Oil sellouts to not get an impeachment vote, or this Dalrymple guy wouldn't get away with this shit.

The politics of force underlies our economics. Always outnumbered, always out-gunned.

Thanks. Your post gives lots to think about.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. So the governor had to request from the president to call this militia (national guard unit)
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 01:49 PM
Sep 2016

out.

Where is the document for this authorization and who/whom signed it:

In 1902 the "National Guard was created under the "Dick Act" yes I said that correctly.

http://www.history.army.mil/documents/1901/Root-NG.htm


Again, I hold the representatives of that state responsible, from the mayor on up, and this includes the federal side, they are a disgrace and should be called out for being a disgrace, has martial law been declared, this concept of deflection being used to justify a means is totally unacceptable, they are protecting an oil company they are not protecting the water or the scared sites, this is a one sided event unfolding

http://www.alternatewars.com/Congress/Dick_Act.htm

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/09/08/breaking-north-dakota-calls-national-guard-squash-sioux-pipeline-protest/

http://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t37c08.pdf

http://constitutionalmilitia.org/well-regulated-principle-carried-over-to-the-constitution


Whenever there is Indigenous People involved, this is an entirely different "ball game" to use that metaphor.

You cannot willy nilly throw the National Guard around, the governor has to get permission from the "president" , the president can tell the governor that he is going to nationalize that force to deal with a issue, it is not the other way around. look no further than this:

https://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/race/100262race-ra.html

http://www.newsweek.com/my-god-theyre-killing-us-our-1970-coverage-kent-state-328108

Just like down in Charlotte, they have to get permission, there is a chain of command to use that force.

People want to know how the federal government got involved to do this at Standing Rock, they are not suppose to be used as a private police force to protect a oil company and it's interest, that's not the purpose.


And yes I know about the politics of force it has been played out since the inception and founding of this country, it cannot and will not be glossed over.

The public and the Indigenous are seeing this played out in real time how the Manifest Destiny and the Doctrine of Discovery is being used against the Indigenous People again, and again, again

Wado (thank you)

Questions need to be asked

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ancianita

(36,053 posts)
7. Boasberg's ruling was in response to a stay request by the Sioux. The governor sent the paper
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:01 PM
Sep 2016

you want proof of to Maj. Gen. Alan Dohrmann, the head of the Guard.

I'm not sure what you're disputing here. Lines of civilian/military/judiciary rule are fairly old and clear cut. Judges don't order anything about the military without a plaintiff of legal standing.

I'm hoping this escalates. I'm hoping the corporate fictional personhoods headed by the 26 CEO's that run this oil-for-China project get beaten badly by the organic personhoods of the Sioux and other tribes in the US/Canada areas.

These CEO's need to eat their losses and move on to above-ground green energy profit making.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
9. Good graphics here. Millions globally only want land base resource profit for themselves.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 10:44 PM
Sep 2016

Put all 26 CEO'S of this project, along with the governor and militia, on the reservation for as long as the Sioux have protested, and let's see how much they come to value the water nearby.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
10. Agreed............................
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:38 PM
Sep 2016

and to add insult to what is happening out in California Nestle just won a court ruling to continue pumping out water, that they were illegally taking from the aquifer, and I would like to see every CEO come out publicly and drink a glass of fracked / oil polluted water, they would change there tune real quick

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
14. Have been protesting ever since we could not vote, but we could get drafted to go and
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:11 AM
Sep 2016

fight, and then they let us vote, and still the medical, college deferments were being handed out .

And now I continue to protest for my ancestral heritage, my being recognized and considered a human being, which is and has been denied since the beginning, based on this greed and the use of genocide.



LTG

(216 posts)
12. The Guard can be called to State Active Duty
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:48 AM
Sep 2016

The governor has the authority to order the National Guard to State Active Duty, known under the authorizing laws as SAD, under his own authority. This can be for disasters, maintaining civil order, or for police duties. This does not require any federal authorization and is paid for by the state.

The President can prevent or override state use by activating the guard to federal duty, same command structure, just a different top boss giving the orders to the general. The costs are then covered by the federal government.

In 1957 the governor of Arkansas had called the Guard to State duty to prevent the desegregation of Little Rock schools. In that case Eisenhower sent part of the 101st Airborne, at the request of the mayor, to escort and safeguard the students. At the same time he had the Guard called to federal active duty, taking them away from the governor, and ordered them home.

Kennedy, in 1963, during the argument with Gov Wallace over the court ordered desegregation of the University of Alabama, preemptively ordered the Secretary of Defense to call the Alabama guard to active federal service. This prevented their use by Wallace.

Some states maintain a state defense force, militia, which is strictly under the control of the state. There are currently 21 state's with active defense forces, including some with army, navy and/or air elements. Other states have authorized but non established forces, or inactive forces. North Dakota is one of the states that has created no state authorization for a state defense force.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
13. (Wado) Thanks..........................
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:06 AM
Sep 2016

I remember quite well the National Guard taking out there batons with the police against our protesting in California during the Vietnam incident, Cambodia illegal invasion, Laos demise.

Old Ronnie ray Gun, wanted to put us in our place, just like the Governor of North Dakota is doing right now, must be nice to just willy-nilly use the National Guard, for a defacto police force, to protect the interests of 26 CEO's that are trying to sicken thousands by polluting the water and land and scared burial grounds in the name of greed, "nice principles".

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-secret-service-campaign-travel-payments-228553

Nice that "the governor " can just use the "military" under the Title 37 -1 in the state, on some "trump" up scheme, while the "oil" company can bring in attack dogs and use that under the auspice of imminent domain and attack the Indigenous brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, aunts, uncles, and non-natives.

Again where is the president on this matter, he held a press conference yesterday, didn't get a chance to hear what he said, and where are the lackeys from the Congressional delegations at both the Senate and house side, no-where they have made there bed and sides with the Manifest Destiny and the Doctrine of Discovery of greed and in my opinion, I will send money to have them defeated


http://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t37c01.pdf

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