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Tue Jan 30, 2018, 04:35 AM

The Daily Show: Hillary Clinton Issues a Non-Apology for Shielding a Harasser



Hillary Clinton tweets out a lukewarm response to a report that she shielded a 2008 campaign adviser accused of sexual harassment.

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Reply The Daily Show: Hillary Clinton Issues a Non-Apology for Shielding a Harasser (Original post)
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 OP
delisen Jan 2018 #1
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #3
OnDoutside Jan 2018 #2
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #4
OnDoutside Jan 2018 #5
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #6
janterry Jan 2018 #7
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #8
janterry Jan 2018 #9
delisen Jan 2018 #12
DURHAM D Jan 2018 #13
betsuni Jan 2018 #10
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #11

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:02 AM

1. Fact-free criticism?


Did the corporation follow due process?

Did the woman want the transfer? Did she want to stay in her faith-based position or prefer to transfer to her new position? Was she given choice; did she exercise choice?

Was docking the harasser several months pay a suitable or unsuitable punishment? Were there written policies regarding harassment and were they followed?








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Response to delisen (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:07 AM

3. I agree that we still don't have all the answers on this

Odd that it suddenly came up after all this time - but it appears that the MSM is jumping all over this, yet have yet to answer these pertinent questions. I hesitated in posting this one, but I have been posting The Dally Show when it's on. And the Daily Show writers came up with this, not me. I don't know anymore than anyone else.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:06 AM

2. 5 minutes spent trashing someone who isn't running for president.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:15 AM

4. Good point, and Trump gets away with it every day - and the MSM dutifully reports it.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:34 AM

5. Yes, they obviously want to hang on to the Hillary haters.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:39 AM

6. The issue is, they report every syllable that comes out of his mouth

To the detriment of actual news. How much have we heard about the horrific new oil spill in the East China Sea? I posted this the other day, this should be leading the news.

Tanker disaster in East China Sea could be worlds worst oil spill in 35 years
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127115206

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 07:25 AM

7. After the first complaint it continued

So, from what I heard - he kept at it - if that's true - keeping him on was a mistake.

I agree with TN -

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 07:36 AM

8. It's certainly a valid point

But it's water under the bridge by now.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 07:43 AM

9. It's true, there are much bigger fish to fry right now

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 09:07 AM

12. The Clinton Campaign was a time-limited organization.

I don't even know if it was incorporated. It did seem to have written procedures to follow re harassment-as per the attorney statement. The offender was fined several months pay are required to undergo counseling.

The offense reported was apparently in 2008 and the punishment meted out at that time.-campaign of 2008.

Many years late in sometime between 2013 and 206 the offender was hired by a separate organization that was related to but not an organizational part of Clinton campaign for 2016 a similar workplace offense.

I see no evidence that he was kept on for eight years by the Clinton campaign 2008 to re-offend and then fired.

The attorneys for Clinton campaign 2008 issued a statement that there were workplace policies in effect in the 2008 campaign organization and that they were adhered to.

If so, why would fining him instead of hiring in 2008 be a mistake? Organizations are required to follow due process in accordance with their policies.

If the reporter think the lawyers statement was not accurate, why would she not dispute it and bring forth evidence?

I think reporting should be based upon facts and it is the responsibility of the reporter and the editor to gather the facts.

As written the NYT news story did not report the facts. It leaves us to guess and try to fill in the blanks with our imaginations. there is no news there-it is a propaganda piece.



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Response to delisen (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 10:11 AM

13. Thanks for the note about the campaign having a

process in place to handle such a problem. Few campaigns have a procedure of any type in place and the staffers know they might be fired any day and not even be allowed a stipend to pay their cost of getting back home.

Also of note, the source for Maggie's article was a fired employee. An ax to grind?

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 07:56 AM

10. The Daily Show still doing false equivalencies.

Boring.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 08:30 AM

11. Seemed out of character for Trevor to me

But his female correspondents have discussed #MeToo - so it's not too surprising that this would come up.

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