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Cringeworthy - Tutti Frutti (Original Post) packman Jun 2018 OP
Excellent. There's nothing cringeworthy about it. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #1
Oh, nothing but respect and admiration for Little Richard packman Jun 2018 #2
They're not mocking anyone. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #4
Actually, it was done in multiple takes and edited jberryhill Jun 2018 #7
How old were you at the time that would have been filmed? ms liberty Jun 2018 #6
The movie flopped jberryhill Jun 2018 #11
Ah. I thought it looked familiar, but I haven't see that movie in probably 40 years. ms liberty Jun 2018 #17
I loved that song! I was maybe eight years old and didn't have a record player Glorfindel Jun 2018 #14
Oh, bullshit - its a scene from "Don't Knock The Rock" a 1956 movie jberryhill Jun 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author elleng Jun 2018 #13
No, that would be the godawful Pat Boone cover! Zambero Jun 2018 #3
Pat Boone was what I was thinking. IADEMO2004 Jun 2018 #10
...the horror...the horror Glorfindel Jun 2018 #15
Almost makes me want to never wear white shoes again! ms liberty Jun 2018 #18
Yeah, Pat Boone should have just stuck to heavy metal... jberryhill Jun 2018 #19
I almost forgot about that "phase" Zambero Jun 2018 #21
Yikes. I had never seen this version and I never will again! bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #16
You realize that sound track was added, yes? jberryhill Jun 2018 #5
Here's another one. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #8
Swingin' in the 40s! Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #12
Packman, you are wrong - the audience clearly lovin' it. Nitram Jun 2018 #20

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
1. Excellent. There's nothing cringeworthy about it.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

Everyone's rockin' out to a Little Richard performance, clapping & having a good time. Go, Little Richard, go! He was unique. I think he was a nice guy, too. A lot of people in the biz seemed to like him. He could get along with a lot of people.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
2. Oh, nothing but respect and admiration for Little Richard
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:44 AM
Jun 2018

It's the all-white audience and their reaction to the music. IMHO they were seeing it as a joke and mocking the dancers.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. They're not mocking anyone.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jun 2018

Theyre sitting around, enjoying a performance, clapping. They're all having a good time, enjoying the music & dancing. No one is mocking anyone.

But I guess they are "guilty of being white"?

This was a segregated America back then. The people in the audience aren't responsible for that. The movies & tv shows from back then will reflect a segregated America.

There is nothing wrong with the way anyone in this video is behaving.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Actually, it was done in multiple takes and edited
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jun 2018

See my comments below. But the mic positions, camera positions, and lighting, differ markedly among the segments from the different takes.

The most obvious is the magic microphone which is sometimes next to the piano, and sometimes isn't.

That was shot in several takes, the soundtrack done separately and the "audience" is part of the performance.

ms liberty

(8,574 posts)
6. How old were you at the time that would have been filmed?
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jun 2018

If you weren't alive and of an age to remember, then you might see it that way, but it was not. Little Richard was a big star and that song was wildly popular, and wildly popular with white kids.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. The movie flopped
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:20 AM
Jun 2018

The video in the OP is not a "performance". It is a scene from a 1956 movie "Don't Knock The Rock", which was a dud followup to "Rock Around The Clock".

Here's another part of that same scene of the movie:



There's no way the audio was recorded in that room, and there's no way it was done in one take.

The same cheezy laughter was also added when the soundtrack was cut for the Bill Haley number.

ms liberty

(8,574 posts)
17. Ah. I thought it looked familiar, but I haven't see that movie in probably 40 years.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe longer. It was from slightly before I was born. by just four years, but those 50's movies were always showing up on teevee in the 60's and 70's. I probably saw all of them a dozen times before I was 18, lol.

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
14. I loved that song! I was maybe eight years old and didn't have a record player
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jun 2018

But I played it on every jukebox I could. I still love Little Richard. And I was a "white kid."

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Oh, bullshit - its a scene from "Don't Knock The Rock" a 1956 movie
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jun 2018

They are not an "audience". They are actors. The soundtrack is not the live sound in that room, I can assure you, since Little Richard doesn't have a microphone for several of the takes that were used for this composite "performance".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Knock_the_Rock

Notice the recycled crowd shot at 30 seconds here, from the same movie:

Response to packman (Reply #2)

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
15. ...the horror...the horror
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jun 2018

I had never heard that abomination before. Believe me, everyone loved the original Little Richard version. I was there and I remember.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
21. I almost forgot about that "phase"
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:07 PM
Jun 2018

He actually did an album of heavy metal songs set to a big band accompaniment. I recall that Eddie Van Halen guested on one of those recordings. What the heck, he massacred classic R&B songs on the 50's, so why not kill death metal as well?

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
16. Yikes. I had never seen this version and I never will again!
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jun 2018

Thanks for posting though as it is very interesting!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. You realize that sound track was added, yes?
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jun 2018

That was not shot in one take. It couldn't have been.

At 29 seconds, the couple is dancing by the piano. There is no microphone in front of the piano. Then, at 31 seconds, we cut to a closer shot of the piano. The camera is now positioned where the couple was dancing, and a microphone stand and mic magically appear where they weren't a moment ago.

Now, have a look at the wide shot at 9 seconds. There is no camera in the left corner of the soundstage. Now jump to 1:12. That is a shot from a camera positioned where there was no camera at 9 seconds.

Also at 9 seconds, while there is no mic by the piano, there is one on the stage.

When it was edited, the laughter seems to have been added to give it a "club" atmosphere (and I doubt those two mics would have produced the audio balance between the clapping, audience noises, band, piano and vocals in the final version). Since we know from the magic microphone there were multiple takes, then the audio track was probably done entirely separately.

On edit: After some further looking, the video is a scene from the 1956 movie "Don't Knock The Rock". It is not a live performance of anything.

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