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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:20 AM Sep 2018

Offered Without Comment. The 'Lewinsky Walks Off Stage' Incident.

Here's the incident everyone was talking about. While giving a speech in Israel about internet bullying ect., the host asked Lewinsky if Clinton had ever apologized to her 'personally.' She said "I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to do this," dropped the mic, and walked off stage, followed by the host. Lewinsky claimed they'd agreed beforehand that there would be no questions about Clinton.



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Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
1. Oh, please.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:31 AM
Sep 2018

Unless Clinton is the topic, she would not be invited. Her 15 minutes ended YEARS ago. Does this woman actually work, or just get by on her episode with Clinton? She could have faded into obscurity long ago, got on with her life. It was not as though she was an innocent little flower. She had chased after her married high school teacher, prompting him to move, then she showed up at his new home. Maybe she should have chased single guys years ago? I am not excusing Clinton for his behaviur, but they were both adults.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
3. Wow
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:46 AM
Sep 2018

Ms. Lewinsky made a profound mistake in her youth and you think she should just shrivel up and blow away?

In the years following the scandal with President Clinton, she moved to London where she attended the London School of Economics earning a Master of Science degree. You might want to read about her life in the 2000s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

Your contempt for her seems rather harsh. Doesn't she deserve a second chance? You accuse her of getting by on her episode with Clinton yet her appearance on the Israeli TV program was supposed to be not about Clinton. Ms. Lewinsky had a different agenda.

Please reconsider your judgment of this woman.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
7. She told people back home
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:07 AM
Sep 2018

that she was going to DC to "earn her presidential kneepads". IF she got an education, why doesn't she use it, instead of registering herself with the speaker's bureau in DC to travel to paid speeches? What does she think she is invited to speak about, her education? Without the Clinton connection, nobody would know who she is. Get real.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Armchair editorialists rarely offer evidence to support their claims, merely bumper stickers.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:20 AM
Sep 2018

No reason you should break any molds though, as your twenty year old argument came first from Gingrich himself in Sept. of 1998.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
19. She said no such thing.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:16 PM
Sep 2018
"She told people back home that she was going to DC to "earn her presidential kneepads".

I can't find any serious evidence she ever said ANYTHING like that, and why the fuck would she? And what the hell does that even mean? "Earn" a kneepad?

I looked around for a while and the only references I found to that snide comment is from a world of Reich-wing websites.

And another to harpy-skank and vile, sieg-heiling ambulatory twat of ignorance, Ann Coulter, who said Newsweek's Eleanor Clift has gone, "beyond the call of duty to earn [her] presidential kneepads," in her painfully shoddy book, High Crimes.

A source seems to be rogue real-life Hollywood P.I. (think "Ray Donovan",) Anthony Pellicano, who once worked for the National Enquirer. (Yeah; THAT National Enquirer.)

Within four days of Matt Drudge's (Who used to fuck Coulter) post about Lewinsky and Clinton, Pellicano "found" Andy Bleiler, Lewinsky's former drama coach, who told Pellicano she wanted a job as a White House intern so she could earn her "presidential kneepads." Bleiler never confirmed he, or she, said that.

When Pellicano was directly question by Newsweek, he had "no comment." He eventually went to prison for two and a half years after he got busted for possession of illegal explosives.

Lewinsky gets a crap-ton of shit for something she did when she was a very young adult. Meanwhile, across town, a certain Callista Bisek (age 27, so she damn well should have known better than a 22-year old Monica) was knob-bobbing and sucking like a Hoover on the "deep pile" setting, on the tiny and flaccid dick of the plump & wretched - Newt Gingrich - a-pumpin' and a-blowin' like she was using it to blow up a flat tire.

For that, she gets to be Ambassador to the Vatican. The. Vatican.

My other name for Callista? "The Successful Monica Lewinsky."


PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
12. Don't you think that was a mistake?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:01 AM
Sep 2018

Man, if I had done something like she did, I'd consider it a huge mistake. Don't you think that Ms. Lewinsky would behave differently now that she has matured?

The journalist who asked the Clinton question was out of line for two reasons. First, there was an understanding that she wouldn't be asked about Clinton. Second, the journalist was the person delving into the past! Ms. Lewinsky was there to discuss an issue that she is working on today.

Her mistake is more than twenty years in the past. I'm willing to give her a second chance. If you disagree, okay.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
6. But, unless she asserts herself in this
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:06 AM
Sep 2018

manner, how will she ever have a chance to be about something else? If there was an agreement that that topic was off limits, then bravo to her for walking off.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
8. They were both legally adults but there was a vast power differential.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:38 AM
Sep 2018

Clinton was her boss and should not have had sexual contact with her for the same reasons that therapists, teachers and doctors shouldn't have sexual contact with their clients, students and patients--regardless of whether everyone is an adult.

And Lewinsky's past sexual history doesn't change that.


I understand that you're not excusing Clinton, but the blame and responsibility falls primarily on him. There's no reason Lewinsky should have to fade into obscurity or be otherwise shamed decades later.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. Power differential would presumably be important if he were actually using the power to get
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:48 AM
Sep 2018

what he wanted.
And I don't think that was the case here.

CTyankee

(63,911 posts)
16. I agree with you. Cllinton was the most powerful man in the world at that time. He could have
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:29 AM
Sep 2018

easily had her banned from the White House.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
14. If the subject of Bill Clinton was off the table, good for her.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:16 AM
Sep 2018

Walking out was the correct response to the question. I hope they pay her for showing up. It wasn't her fault the interviewer broke the agreement.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Here, here. Others should note, the audience CLAPPED for her.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:39 PM
Sep 2018

She was firm and dignified as she refused to allow the interviewer to break their agreed conditions. Good for her! I'd clap also.

Maturity becomes her.

 

bjvom

(51 posts)
18. They lied
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:14 PM
Sep 2018

Channel 2 states they respect her sensitivity. No! You showed absolutely NO respect for her sensitivity, her desire to leave the past behind nor for your own integrity.

PufPuf23

(8,769 posts)
21. Good for Monica Lewinsky.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:20 AM
Sep 2018

Painful to see people at DU defending Bill Clinton for this regrettable piece of history.

Bill Clinton had far more power including to remove Lewinsky from the internship and the WH from the moment Lewinsky presented a potential problem. The Secret Service was always a mere phrase away and Clinton could have permanently diffused the potential.

That said, neither did I then nor now agree with the impeachment.

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