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Rhiannon12866

(205,941 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 11:51 PM Sep 2018

The Daily Show: Kamala Harris Brings the Heat at Kavanaugh Hearing



Senator Kamala Harris goes in on Brett Kavanaugh during his Supreme Court confirmation hearing with questions about the Mueller investigation and reproductive rights.


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Rhiannon12866

(205,941 posts)
3. Given what's been happening in this country since January 2017
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 02:11 AM
Sep 2018

I honestly can't imagine how anyone can still support Trump - and his enablers! With even the likes of Paul Ryan dropping out and Trump's approval ratings hovering around 30%, let alone the outspoken Republican "never Trumpers," I don't understand how the Senate isn't in play as well as the House!

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
4. It has taken 30 years of Republican evil to get to where we are now,
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 02:24 AM
Sep 2018

I don't think it will take as long for the forces of good to set things right, but it will unfortunately take time. Ultimately what Democrats stand for is truth and justice, and there are enough people in the US who believe in that too We all can dream for a speedier resolution. Actually I must start a thread about what it will be like when this all blows up, as it surely will.

Rhiannon12866

(205,941 posts)
5. I also think things are different this time - with Trump
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 02:50 AM
Sep 2018

I'm hardly an authority on Watergate, but we keep hearing comparisons, and I'm not aware that there was an exodus from the Republican party back then - like there has been with the "never Trumpers" - or that Republican members of Congress decided not to run for reelection. Ford's loss can certainly be attributed to Watergate, along with his notable debate gaffe, but when Jimmy Carter reached out to the only living former presidents at the time, Ford and Nixon, Ford was more than willing to help his former opponent deal with Republicans in Congress.

I've listened to presidential historians weighing in on the times we're living through now and they all say that this is historically unprecedented.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
6. Completely agree that this is different, imo way beyond Watergate. The problem is that while Dems
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 03:14 AM
Sep 2018

have gone through the last 30 years believing in people's better nature, Repugs set about getting a majority on the SC, and trying to gerrymander political races to attempt to keep themselves permanently in power, all the while sucking 40% of the population into a world of RW/Fox News lies, deceit and bullshit, so much that those people are now the equivalent of cult followers in not believing facts. AND on top of that a President who betrayed his country to Russia for money, propped up by a GOP who are co-conspirators. I'm not sure people understand the knife edge America now stands on. This still has potential to go the other way, and I'm as nervous as others here about the mid terms.

Rhiannon12866

(205,941 posts)
7. I agree with what you say and I'm bewildered and kinda scared that there are those who support Trump
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 03:53 AM
Sep 2018

Even now. In the beginning, maybe he was "novel" or entertaining because he was "different," said anything that crossed his addled mind, unlike most other scripted candidates. But what's happened since has got to be alarming, not to mention off-putting, for anyone who's paying the least bit of attention. And his antics are hard to ignore, he's the only news there is, and all the time.

And he's not even a Republican. Those who supported previous Republicans have to remember the adversarial relationship we've always had with Russia (USSR). I happened to be there (USSR) just before the scheduled 1986 summit between Reagan and Gorbachev in Reykjavik. People were scared, Reagan was so tough with Gorbachev that the hardliners were freaking out which jeopardized the glasnost reforms Gorbachev was implementing - something the people desperately wanted. And of course back then many still remembered the horrors of WWII, fought on their own soil. I remember one older lady spitting on the ground at the mention of Reagan's name.

And you're also right that Trump appeals to the worst in people. It's suddenly okay to exhibit hate towards anyone and that seems to have happened overnight - after generations of progress. I'm anxious too - I never thought I'd live in a country where hate was acceptable or where we'd abandon our long time allies in favor of dictators.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
10. He's not a Democrat either, he's an opportunist. I honestly believe Democratic voters would never
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:59 AM
Sep 2018

have bought into his bullshit, which is probably why he concentrated on the GOP.

That's a great (if scary) memory to have of Russia. I can see the threat to us here in Europe, and it's why I am so desperate for the Democrats to blow Trump and the GOP out of the water. We need as a strong, free USA, as much as you, to take on Putin and the other authoritarians.

Rhiannon12866

(205,941 posts)
11. That's the thing - he holds no principles at all
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 06:34 AM
Sep 2018

That's why the "never Trumpers" have given up on their party. He not only has no principles, but he can do an about face in the middle of a sentence. I can't imagine what his "supporters" believe, he holds no positions except what's good for Trump.

And the abandoning of our allies in favor of ruthless dictators should be a red flag for anyone who knows basic history. Putin's aim is to destabilize both Europe and the U.S. and we need to hang together now more than ever.

And I went to the USSR with my grandmother as a part of her peace group. She retired to Black Mountain, NC, from here in New York and she invited me to make up numbers (they needed 17 to make the trip) on their initial visit to their "sister city" 2 1/2 hours up in the Caucasus Mountains - which turned out to be the trip of a lifetime. They were all senior citizens except one lady and me - I was the youngest by several decades - and experienced travelers, we met with other peace groups and also met ordinary Russians. Many hadn't encountered Americans before and they seemed excited to meet us.

We visited other places in Russia: Moscow, what was then Leningrad, and Tbilisi in what was then Soviet Georgia, but the "sister city" visit was the real point of the trip. And it was a real education for me, I'd traveled, but Russia wasn't ever on my wish list. When my grandmother first suggested it, I honestly thought she must have lost her mind, LOL, since I remembered my kindergarten class hiding in the basement of the school, a drill in case the Russians bombed us!

When my friend was teaching third grade, I was invited to come and speak when they studied Russia. I shared what I'd learned, that the Russian people want the same things that we do, a decent place to live, they also love their pets and want a better life for their children. And they were terrified of war, since WWII impacted the country so profoundly. There was a lot of hope under Gorbachev and it's heartbreaking to know that they're returning to the worst days of the USSR under Putin.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
12. As President Obama just said, Trump is the symptom. I would go further and say he is the logical
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 12:37 PM
Sep 2018

outcome of a morally bereft and corrupt GOP's decades long descent into where they are now. Unfortunately too many have forgotten history, which is why we are repeating the same mistakes of the past !

That was amazing trip with your grandmother ! I presume the food choices at the time where "interesting" ? My cousin and his wife went to Latvia & Lithuania in the early 90s, and she had the good idea to bring a roll of US One dollar bills, which enabled her to get a better class of whatever...they were the only ones in their hotel to get hot water to wash in the mornings ! They also took a suitcase full of mars bars etc !

TexasTowelie

(112,405 posts)
8. It is in play, but 24 of the 34 seats this year already belong to Democrats
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:31 AM
Sep 2018

and there are more Democrats that face tough contests than there are Republicans. If this turn out to be a Blue Wave of tsunami proportions then we will regain the Senate. Meanwhile, I'm going to the junior college next Tuesday to attend a "clipboarding" event to identify supporters for Beto O'Rourke.

I looked at the O'Rourke site several days ago and just now and noticed that a lot more of events had sprung up in the nearby towns. Here is a map of registered events on the site:

https://map.betofortexas.com/?source=web_homepage_navbar&zipcode=77488

Rhiannon12866

(205,941 posts)
9. Very cool! His campaign seems to have really taken off!
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:01 AM
Sep 2018

I sure wish I could vote for him, he seems to be that compelling a candidate. I can't really complain about my senators, though I wish Chuck Schumer would join forces with the likes of Elizabeth Warren rather than whatever diplomacy he's attempting. But he's not up for reelection, my Paul Ryan acolyte of a congresswoman is - and despite the angry LTTEs and protests we've been seeing, she's still expected to win. I've been seeing a lot of signs for her, too - and my friend who held state office said that makes a difference for those who aren't paying attention, they'll vote for the name they keep seeing.

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