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Michael Moore on The View - A terrorist attack would be great for Trump (Original Post) gyroscope Sep 2018 OP
Would be great for Moore too. John Fante Sep 2018 #1
By your logic gyroscope Sep 2018 #2
Eight years of Trump benefits them financially. Moore too. John Fante Sep 2018 #3
So they have no right to criticize Trump gyroscope Sep 2018 #4
Criticize Trump? Moore has a huge Cheeto hard-on. John Fante Sep 2018 #5
What does he need him for? gyroscope Sep 2018 #7
Wrong, Fante. Moore doesn't "need" Trump. We're living in a target-rich environment. Nitram Sep 2018 #14
During the GE Moore pushed hard for HRC elmac Sep 2018 #22
The beauty is if anyone questions the nature of the attack, they are "a conspiracy theorist nutjob". Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #6
"I could have someone fly my personal plane into the Capitol and not lose a supporter." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #8
Imagine if Jim Jones was President of the US gyroscope Sep 2018 #9
Yep ck4829 Oct 2018 #25
Im done with Moore MFM008 Sep 2018 #10
I've seen every Michael Moore Doc. And to all the cynics on here: He's not the enemy. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #11
Yes, what you said. Magoo48 Sep 2018 #13
Anyone who doesn't get 'it' then you're highly misinformed or a closet right winger. Perseus Sep 2018 #20
might be the opposite. the bragger said he was the best. fool us twice yadda yadda. pansypoo53219 Sep 2018 #12
Wrong thing to say, you don't want to give ideas to these crooks Perseus Sep 2018 #15
I do want to confess that I did not watch the video Perseus Sep 2018 #16
EXACTLY ailsagirl Sep 2018 #19
A terrorist attack would not be as 'helpful' amcgrath Sep 2018 #17
I love MM LittleGirl Sep 2018 #18
terror attacks and war are always good for the power brokers in DC elmac Sep 2018 #21
Bush was warned, red lights and bells were going off all over the place. They let it happen anyway. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #23
Sad but needed - This level of distrust in the government ck4829 Oct 2018 #24
Could use same blueprint as 9/11 and Khasoggi: no_hypocrisy Oct 2018 #26

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
1. Would be great for Moore too.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:57 AM
Sep 2018

The GWB/Al-qaeda combo was like a godsend for this divisive prick. Nothing like the lean years under Obama.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
2. By your logic
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:06 AM
Sep 2018

no one in the media should ever criticize Trump, because doing so benefits them financially.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
5. Criticize Trump? Moore has a huge Cheeto hard-on.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:33 AM
Sep 2018

He considers Trump an evil genius playing 6-D chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Moore may hate Trump, but he needs him too. Kinda like...Trump needs a terrorist attack.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
7. What does he need him for?
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:39 AM
Sep 2018

Moore has a net worth of $50 million. If King Cheeto were impeached tomorrow Moore would be doing just fine.

Bill Clinton was heavily criticized by Moore in Bowling for Columbine, the Oscar-winning film that was Moore's biggest money maker by far. So whether a democrat or republican is in office, Moore is making money - so your logic fails.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
14. Wrong, Fante. Moore doesn't "need" Trump. We're living in a target-rich environment.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:43 AM
Sep 2018

I don't know if you're a sophomoric cynic, or just trolling liberals.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
22. During the GE Moore pushed hard for HRC
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:38 PM
Sep 2018

had one of the best films about HRC I have ever seen. He dislikes tRump but understands that the monster can get reelected if voters don't turn out.

8. "I could have someone fly my personal plane into the Capitol and not lose a supporter."
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:33 AM
Sep 2018

And the sad thing is, he'd probably be right.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
9. Imagine if Jim Jones was President of the US
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:46 AM
Sep 2018

we don't have to imagine anymore. The Cult of Trump is a real life nightmare.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
11. I've seen every Michael Moore Doc. And to all the cynics on here: He's not the enemy.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:09 AM
Sep 2018

I'm glad Moore is doing what he's doing. His movies make money because people trust his opinion. He speaks truth to power. Anyone who doesn't get 'it' then you're highly misinformed or a closet right winger.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
20. Anyone who doesn't get 'it' then you're highly misinformed or a closet right winger.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:25 PM
Sep 2018

That almost sounds like "You are with us or you are against us.", hmmm, was it a "right winger", a republicans who said that? Oh, yes...it was GW Bush...

The fact that someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they are "misinformed or closet right wingers", the fact is that Moore plays both sides, that of course is my opinion from my observations in an attempt to inform myself of facts.

When you have a situation like Moore predicting that "evil genius trump will win a 2nd term". There you have it, he is calling trump a genius, no matter that he is calling him evil, his supporters don't hear that, to their ears the only thing that computes is the fact that "trump IS a genius".

The fact that he goes around predicting trump's win doesn't help either, it kind of paves the road for the cheating that went and will continue to go on.

As I said in another post here, "Moore looks better when is quiet."

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
15. Wrong thing to say, you don't want to give ideas to these crooks
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:04 AM
Sep 2018

and with Putin support, they can make it happen.

Moore seems to play both sides once in a while, and his messages are confusing at times, I would be happy if he remained silent for a while.

Like a friend of mine told his wife humorously a day she was nagging at him "Elizabeth, you really look beautiful when you are quiet." and he was so funny when he said it that even she started cracking up. Well, Moore, you do look better when you are quiet.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
17. A terrorist attack would not be as 'helpful'
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:39 AM
Sep 2018

As taking out Trump.

Long term Republican strategists have to be aware that with the long litany of crimes and scandals, Trump has the potential to damage them for many years to come. He will face court case after court case - and he will never "go quietly".

He will always be there, naming names, revealing secrets and accusing other people of being more responsible for his actions.

It would be much more beneficial to the long term 'health' of the party if Trump was dead. If he were to die, most of the Mueller probe would either be disappear or could be hung on Trump.

Stormy Daniels would have nobody to fight, nor would all the other women who have reported assaults and rapes. Emoluments and other illegal use of office charges would vanish.

His death could be spun in Trump states to make him a hero and convince people they should stay true to his Party. - leaked covert operations manuals in the past had chapters on how to assassinate popular allied leaders to increase determination in their followers.

With Trump gone the Republicans have their tax cut and a few other policies (that will prove disasterous - but they'll be able to blame them on Trump and avoid criticism.

Chief amongst the changes that would prove to be unpopular, would be the stacking of the Supreme Court. - which for some reason the Republicans are trying to force through at record speed, with record opposition, to meet a deadline that makes no particular sense.

With unpopular moves like that pushed through - and attributable to Trump - it makes sense to get rid of Trump and have Pence step forward to assume the mantel. He has stayed back and stayed quiet. His quiet nature and staying out of the spotlight has many Americans regarding him as fairly benign - especially in comparison to Trump.

I sincerely hope that Trump stays safe and gets to live a long life in jail, exposing the Party as he goes through various trials. But when you consider what would be in the 'best interests' of the Party, I'd say he is in a fair amount of danger.

To him, I would recommend going to Mueller to arrange some sort of protective custody

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
21. terror attacks and war are always good for the power brokers in DC
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:31 PM
Sep 2018

military industrial complex, big oil and Its also good for the news networks, reason they are the first to wave the flags. Rightwingers thrive on chaos so....

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
23. Bush was warned, red lights and bells were going off all over the place. They let it happen anyway.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:29 PM
Sep 2018

Just look what Bush& Co.gained. Trump would likely do the same thing only blame it on immigrants.

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
24. Sad but needed - This level of distrust in the government
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:17 AM
Oct 2018

When "good family values" is saying a heterosexual rapist is still more moral than a law abiding GLBTQ person or that "good national security" means "Sure there is a mass shooter, but the shooter is white. So... win", then yeah, we need to say stuff like this.

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