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appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:37 AM Dec 2019

"A Second Civil War" If Trump Is Removed, Say Hershey, Pa.*UPDATE

Last edited Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:55 PM - Edit history (3)



Dec. 12, 2019. CBS News asked Trump supporters at the president's rally Tuesday in Hershey, Pennsylvania how they would respond if Trump was removed from office. More than one supporter said there would be a "second Civil War" if President Trump is removed from office. "He is not going to be removed... My .357 Magnum is comfortable with that. End of story," one man said.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/12/12/trump_supporters_in_hershey_pa_say_there_would_be_a_second_civil_war_if_trump_is_removed_from_office.html
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***UPDATE: The Trump Rally supporter who warned of a "2nd Civil War" (cowboy hat, rain poncho) is actually an Alex Jones "INFOWARS" media host.*More, https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-rallygoer-from-viral-cbs-video-who-warned-of-second-civil-war-is-actually-an-infowars-host/
MORE, https://www.mediamatters.org/cbs/cbs-presents-infowars-host-will-johnson-random-trump-supporter

"Trump rallygoer who appeared in a viral CBS News video, ominously warning that the country might descend into a “second Civil War” if President Donald Trump was removed from office in a Senate trial, is actually an InfoWars host who has pushed the same “civil war” warnings in the past.

The man, Will Johnson, was included in a disturbing video taken at Trump’s Pennsylvania rally that quickly gained attention for the ominous threats of violence Trump supporters offered up. None of the people interviewed were identified by name.
Nearly one day after the video was first posted on Twitter, CBS News replied to the original tweet with an “editor’s note” naming Johnson and identifying him as “a media personality who has contributed to InfoWars.” (Johnson posted his own video from the rally...)"...

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"A Second Civil War" If Trump Is Removed, Say Hershey, Pa.*UPDATE (Original Post) appalachiablue Dec 2019 OP
I watched this last night, disturbing as hell.😳 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #1
You ain't gonna DO ... shit! (nt) mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #2
MAGAT strong movement mikeysnot Dec 2019 #3
Rally In Tupelo, Mississippi Nov. 4, 2019: appalachiablue Dec 2019 #4
It's why he loves the poorly educated tomhagen Dec 2019 #18
I've not seen this particular Nazi footage, very clear. Tx for posting appalachiablue Dec 2019 #55
Aren't teenagers being arrested for pre-meditated murder? Frustratedlady Dec 2019 #5
'New England For Trump,' 4 Stores Across Mass. Sell Trump & 2A Merchandise: appalachiablue Dec 2019 #6
Trump will lose all of New England. rockfordfile Dec 2019 #52
These people will be made to look like fools. Turbineguy Dec 2019 #7
He isn't shooting anybody....these people are "talk tough" clowns n/t Bromwell Dec 2019 #21
I've heard this from a few MAGA friends. JohnnyRingo Dec 2019 #8
Or the newsletters at the local... kag Dec 2019 #22
The ignorance of these people is stunning redstateblues Dec 2019 #9
It's coming anyway, Trump is just the current excuse. jalan48 Dec 2019 #10
STOP giving stories like this any airtime! Don't feed the trolls. jmbar2 Dec 2019 #11
THIS! kag Dec 2019 #23
That! Newest Reality Dec 2019 #38
Put em on terrorist list. Traildogbob Dec 2019 #12
Their idea of mounted cavalry SCVDem Dec 2019 #20
Arrest them for threatening mob violence. n/t Scoopster Dec 2019 #13
Putin is toasting: Mission Accomplished! tomhagen Dec 2019 #14
Just cut off their SS checks and they will surrender in a heartbeat! Cattledog Dec 2019 #15
Exactly. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #31
History shows the civil war you want is not the civil war you get. bronxiteforever Dec 2019 #16
THIS!!! jmbar2 Dec 2019 #24
Put him on a no-fly list right now, please. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #17
They are a violent white supremacist cult. Maven Dec 2019 #19
This dude from the OP does not look like a white supremacist at140 Dec 2019 #51
I doubt it's going to be a civil war, more like post-Waco raid terrorism all over again. Crowman2009 Dec 2019 #25
Should be arrested for inciting violence and/or terrorism...no ifs, buts or any excuses. Arrest... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #26
Right up there with the secessionist asswipes. gordianot Dec 2019 #27
why don't they come and ask me? stillcool Dec 2019 #28
Exactly. ancianita Dec 2019 #30
Like the 5 Tea Party followers in front of the capitol got coverage appalachiablue Dec 2019 #39
Amen!!!! McKim Dec 2019 #40
Bring it, assholes. We beat your ass once... louis-t Dec 2019 #29
Liberals have guns as well. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #32
They are so silly ..... CatMor Dec 2019 #33
Big talkers but won't do anything if comes to it... Thomas Hurt Dec 2019 #34
One of the crazies....I don't need to hear their bull shit empty threats Hulk Dec 2019 #35
I like to be informed and not in the dark regarding the ugly realities. appalachiablue Dec 2019 #36
HA HA HA ..... no there will not be a civil war. trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #37
These People are Also Maybe Fed Up with Not Getting Enough? McKim Dec 2019 #41
The Hate Machine media they listen to for 30 years and Faux since appalachiablue Dec 2019 #42
Hey Doofus......................so, you are going f**ing around and threating people with your .357 turbinetree Dec 2019 #43
FYI trump supporter identified as InfoWars plant bronxiteforever Dec 2019 #44
TY! I added the info. in the OP above *Update with the Video. A couple of appalachiablue Dec 2019 #47
Thanks! Mrs Bronx told me when I played it for her. bronxiteforever Dec 2019 #48
They are convinced he's winning in a LANDSLIDE underpants Dec 2019 #45
civil war? scarytomcat Dec 2019 #46
They don't scare me.. paleotn Dec 2019 #49
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #50
Bring it, Trumptard. SergeStorms Dec 2019 #53
These are dangerous morons. Kid Berwyn Dec 2019 #54
 

tomhagen

(3,604 posts)
18. It's why he loves the poorly educated
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:45 PM
Dec 2019

They fall for him hook line and sinker; when he says “drain the swamp” . They fall the the Soundbite. And they all get to wear red armbands...I mean caps.


appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
55. I've not seen this particular Nazi footage, very clear. Tx for posting
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 09:07 PM
Dec 2019

this one, the Pa. rally and other videos. Films rock.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. Aren't teenagers being arrested for pre-meditated murder?
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

What's the difference?

Plan it on paper or state it in an interview? "My .357 Magnum..."

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
6. 'New England For Trump,' 4 Stores Across Mass. Sell Trump & 2A Merchandise:
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:51 AM
Dec 2019

Trump-Themed Pop-Up Store Opens In Wilmington..The four stores across Massachusetts sell Trump and Second Amendment memorabilia, as well as some Boston sports gear. Dec. 10, 2019. The Patch.

WILMINGTON, MA — Traditionally, if you want a shirt with a politician's name on it, you buy it from the campaign or from stands at places such as the National Mall. Certainly, you wouldn't find an entire brick-and-mortar retail store devoted to that merchandise in a Boston suburb. Or in four different Boston suburbs, as the case may be.

But that's exactly what the "New England for Trump" chain of stores provides. It opened its 4th location, 424 Main St. in Wilmington, this weekend...https://patch.com/massachusetts/wilmington/trump-themed-pop-store-opens-wilmington

MORE, https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/14/20947976/maga-trump-2020-election-presidential-gear-merch-stores-donald-merchandise-sell-for




Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
7. These people will be made to look like fools.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:54 AM
Dec 2019

That will be hard to accept. Let's hope this .357 Magnum guy doesn't shoot somebody first.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
8. I've heard this from a few MAGA friends.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:57 AM
Dec 2019

Here's the thing, they're all Social Security age and lucky to find the energy to make it to the bar anymore, something I'm quick to point out. They seem to think millenials and Xers are anxious to follow their lead (or orders).

I suspect this "civil war" will fought out in the letters to the editor page of the local papers.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
9. The ignorance of these people is stunning
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:58 AM
Dec 2019

I spent a few minutes in the comment section of that article and wow! I’m surprised that they can read and write.

jmbar2

(4,883 posts)
11. STOP giving stories like this any airtime! Don't feed the trolls.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:08 PM
Dec 2019

Including here at DU!

Putin is smiling.

kag

(4,079 posts)
23. THIS!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 02:13 PM
Dec 2019

These people are a tiny minority (70-80 million people my big fat ass!). Stop donating expensive airtime to their cause.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
38. That!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 05:37 PM
Dec 2019

If one pays close attention, the people you say seeing this would probably keel over before they made it to the Battle of Heart Attack Hill. They are just venting with vulgar vehemence.

When there is a real, serious threat of some kind, it will be clear. This is posturing for their leader.

So, yeah, let's not encourage them or acknowledge empty and idle mind puke.

Traildogbob

(8,734 posts)
12. Put em on terrorist list.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:09 PM
Dec 2019

They do realize, the law allows us to shoot back once attacked. The is not gonna be a gun party out in bubbas pasture shooting at targets. I can promise, just like me, millions of us with schildren and spouses will not stand in a pasture while they attack us. Easy access to weapons, have made the opposition equal. Besides, have you seen these jerks. Go to Walmart and look at their physical abilities. You can't when a war from your front porch watching Fox. Many vets like myself have been shot at and know how to respond to protect those around us. A 357 mag is not an accurate weapon, unless you are very close. So, walk on up asshole. Be waitin'.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
16. History shows the civil war you want is not the civil war you get.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:36 PM
Dec 2019

I wonder if these ignorant people understand that. Which modern civil war would they pick for their families to experience personally?

There won’t be any medicare or social security with a US civil war. The currency would crash. In a country paved with guns, how do they think their offspring or gene pool survives?

Also I wish these reporters would ask them ”who would you kill first”? Men, women children?
In America, violence and hate seems to be the answer to every question.

jmbar2

(4,883 posts)
24. THIS!!!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 02:19 PM
Dec 2019

Brilliant response. I wish the new folks would ask questions like this.

We're replacing self governance with eliminationism. It's always been there under the surface.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
19. They are a violent white supremacist cult.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 01:23 PM
Dec 2019

Anyone who says that these people can be "reached" is a liar or a lunatic.

Crowman2009

(2,495 posts)
25. I doubt it's going to be a civil war, more like post-Waco raid terrorism all over again.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 02:24 PM
Dec 2019

There definitely needs to be more of a crackdown on these right-wing terrorists. Especially when their posting threats in public on social media.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
26. Should be arrested for inciting violence and/or terrorism...no ifs, buts or any excuses. Arrest...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 02:31 PM
Dec 2019

their asses and charge them.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
27. Right up there with the secessionist asswipes.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 02:39 PM
Dec 2019

You are supposed to be terrified by threats. Strange how these threats have the reverse effect.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
28. why don't they come and ask me?
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 03:02 PM
Dec 2019

I've been to rallies, marches, protests and it results in no ink, no photo, no microphone. Thousands of people do not make the local news, but a few radical-white-right-wing'ers get the full treatment. Makes me sick. What is projected, and perceived is not real, but is condoned and amplified.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
32. Liberals have guns as well.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 03:25 PM
Dec 2019

They forget that.

Hope they come for me all drunk and waving their confederate phallus, Er...flag.

They’ll be easy to spot and shoot.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
33. They are so silly .....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 03:33 PM
Dec 2019

if it actually came to war they would all claim bone spurs like their fearless leader.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
34. Big talkers but won't do anything if comes to it...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 03:40 PM
Dec 2019

The real threat is who amongst these whackjobs is one step away from being a McVeigh.

Should really just start laughing in their faces.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
35. One of the crazies....I don't need to hear their bull shit empty threats
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 04:21 PM
Dec 2019

Fuck this moron. What’s he going to do, drag out his 357 and start shooting bottles in the woods.

We already know this country has too many guns in the hands of too many crazy sons a bitches. I wouldn’t give these idiots exposure with interviewing or repeating this garbage. Shame on CBS for airing it. I’m disappointed DU even posts this crap. All it does is make the viewer more paranoid than we already are.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
36. I like to be informed and not in the dark regarding the ugly realities.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 04:39 PM
Dec 2019

There's a lot going on and mountains of news every week. Since the material posted here is current and on a vast array of topics I often don't consult many other venues, especially mainstream media.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
41. These People are Also Maybe Fed Up with Not Getting Enough?
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 05:55 PM
Dec 2019

The anger these people feel is coming from somewhere. Racism is a big part of the mix but I sense that is also an anger about being left out of the booming economy and not enough government services. They want to blame someone. Instead of blaming the top 2% and the billionaires and the misguiding conservative think tanks they blame Black and Brown People, Lberals and Leftists.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
42. The Hate Machine media they listen to for 30 years and Faux since
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:09 PM
Dec 2019

1996 now on the internet will give them more than enough to be angry about. As well as some ministers I guess. Along with major endemic racism and the newest conspiracy theory of the "Great Replacement."

But I also agree that they are expressing anger at being left out of the 'good economy' and the reduction of govt. services that began 40 years ago with Reaganism that we are still in. Anti globalization sentiment too.

The Great Replacement (French: grand remplacement), also known as the replacement theory, is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory which states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites,[a] the white French population—as well as white European population at large—is being progressively replaced with non-European peoples—specifically Arab, Berber and sub-Saharan Muslim populations from Africa and the Middle East—through mass migration, demographic growth and a European drop in the birth rate.

The "Great Replacement" is included in a larger white genocide conspiracy theory that has spread in Western far-right movements since the late 20th century. Despite their common reference to a "genocide" of indigenous white peoples and a global plan led by a conspiring power, Camus's theory does not include an antisemitic Jewish plot, which is, according to political scientist Jean-Yves Camus and historian Nicolas Lebourg, a reason for its broader appeal...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
43. Hey Doofus......................so, you are going f**ing around and threating people with your .357
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dec 2019

so if tomorrow when human beings are protesting against your enabling traitor, what are going to do, bring out your 6 shot ..................really.........................your an idiot, a deadly one at that...........................

he is going to be impeached....................he is traitor...............

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
44. FYI trump supporter identified as InfoWars plant
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:19 PM
Dec 2019

CBS News conducted interviews outside a December 10, 2019, Trump rally in Hershey, Pennsylvania, presenting the interview subjects as random Trump supporters in a video posted to social media.

Writer and editor at The Informant, Nick Martin, pointed out that one of the random Trump supporters interviewed was Infowars host Will Johnson. In the interview Johnson said removal of Donald Trump through the process of impeachment would result in a civil war.

Johnson, who has previously said “we are in a civil war,” is also the creator of Unite America First, a group that has called Democrats “domestic terrorists.”

A similar situation occurred in 2017, when Kevn Martin, who had contributed to Infowars and been praised by Jones, appeared on Fox News and was interviewed in the crowd of a Trump rally in Pennsylvania by none other than Sean Hannity.

https://www.mediamatters.org/cbs/cbs-presents-infowars-host-will-johnson-random-trump-supporter

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
47. TY! I added the info. in the OP above *Update with the Video. A couple of
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:47 PM
Dec 2019

the interviewed people initially seemed less than real, go figure. The stuff is becoming more bizarre every week...

Thanks again.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
48. Thanks! Mrs Bronx told me when I played it for her.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:00 PM
Dec 2019

I totally agree it is bizarre and wherever the “supporter” is from, his hate comes through as authentic and should be exposed.

underpants

(182,794 posts)
45. They are convinced he's winning in a LANDSLIDE
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:35 PM
Dec 2019

I see it all over the place on Facebook and hear it on radio. Just so we're all aware.

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