Sam Bacile Muhammad Movie - Innocence of Muslims

[We_Must_Organize]

This is what diplomats are being killed over??? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen - no exaggeration! I understand that Muslims in the Arab world may not get that we have freedom of speech. After all, we have supported dictators in the region for decades. And in their view, we have a government that is omnipotent and can do anything. The Muslims may not comprehend that our government cannot stop movies/films like this from being made. But this film - if you can even call it that - is beyond stupid. It is absolutely the most childish, terribly acted piece of shit that I think I've ever watched. And people in the Arab world are SO outraged that they begin killing people? Seriously? We have to step back from this and realize that ANY religious fundamentalist is a danger to everyone, everywhere.

I know that many of you may say that the action of a few Muslims do not represent the feelings of the entire region. To which I would say, before the leaders of Egypt and Afghanistan condemned the killing of Americans, they first condemned this ridiculous film. This would indeed be the best of all possible worlds if it didn't have religion.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

1. The armed attack in Benghazi was preplanned for 9/11

And had nothing to do with the trailer.

[valerief]

6. Exactly. This is just a ruse. Like bin Laden was a ruse for "our new Pearl Harbor" as

PNAC said they needed in their 1997 papers.

[We_Must_Organize]

8. I'm sorry, but your wrong

Protests are still occurring

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/protests-film-spread-muslim-world-article-1.1159601

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. There is fairly convincing evidence at this point that the attacks in Benghazi where the 4 people

died was indeed preplanned.

Subsequent to that there have been followons and copycats.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. And there's a big difference between 'protests' and 'heavily armed attacks that kill'

Time and again, in your OP you talk about the killing - which happened in the Bangahzi attack, not the invasions of embassies in other countries. The Bangahzi attack, with RPGs, and a secondary attack on the safe house to which most of the personnel were evacuated, was quite different. And when the crowd at the Bangahzi attack found the ambassador, they took him to hospital. It's quite possible there was no actual genuine popular protest against the video at Benghazi; it may only have been what the attackers wanted it to look like, under cover of which they launched the attack.

[Confusious]

2. Sheesh havn't watched it and it looks like

A production by kids messing around with a video camera.

Don't think I'll be watching it.

[Warren Stupidity]

3. Please go away.

[We_Must_Organize]

7. Please go away???

What are you referring to?

[Quantess]

15. Don't worry about it.

I had considered posting the video myself, but I never got around to it.
Some DUers think it is irresponsible to post the video here. But I say, if people are curious let them watch it.

[valerief]

4. OMG, the intermittent dubbing is hilarious. This looks like some kid's bad school project. nt

[Third Doctor]

5. Yeah

I saw it yesterday and I thought that it was ridiculous. Not including the libya incident I'm really trying to understand the rioting and burning taking place over something like this. I guess we have RW extremists everywhere.

[edhopper]

9. he blue screen work is

particularly inspired.

[slackmaster]

28. It's a Tour de Force of Bad Blue (or Green) Screen

[WhoIsNumberNone]

12. It took just under 30 seconds

for me to determine that I didn't have 13 minutes to spare for this sort of shit.

This piece of poorly produced propaganda is clearly designed to provoke a (hopefully violent) response from fundamentalist Muslims. Ever since that thing with the Dutch cartoonist being fatwa'd for drawing Mohamed, right wingers everywhere have been pulling stunts, trawling for terrorism. And that's what this is; a deliberate attempt to elicit violence out of crazies with reckless disregard for the innocent lives it will endanger.

[Bainbridge Bear]

13. My response is that Sam "Im" Bacile

spent 5 MILLION dollars for this piece of shit? Where did the money go because it certainly isn't up there on the screen!

[WhoIsNumberNone]

20. Really? $5 Million?

I bet at least $4 million went to the producer in one way or another.

[a2liberal]

14. I was with you until the last sentence...

Religious extremism != Religion

[Cali_Democrat]

16. So this is the video?

Yikes! It's an awful production.

[Alduin]

18. That was worse than any crappy movie on the SyFy Channel!

[They_Live]

19. I urge everyone to vote this down on YT and flag it

for hate speech against religion, which is what it is.

[struggle4progress]

21. Who needs this rightwing crap?

[Jack Rabbit]

22. I could only watch about half of this

The film combines the skillful artistic execution of Plan 9 from Outer Space with the universal love found in Birth of a Nation.

Apart from its technical failings, the film simply reeks of visceral hatred for Muslims. It is the kind of hatred that knows no truth and is based on no facts. It is juvenile in its demeanor and ugly in its presentation.

One might suppose that Mr. Bacile, apparently a Coptic Christian from the Middle East, has experienced some genuine discrimination or persecution at the hands of Muslims in the course of his life. If so, we should have compassion for his pain. However, this expression is so misdirected as to make the founder of the Islamic faith the object of its scorn rather than the actual petty people caused Mr. Bacile pain. The Prophet Mohammad lived 1400 years ago and has nothing to do with any slight Mr. Bacile has experienced. Nor can we say that this kind of behavior is unique to Muslims. Persecution of minority groups is as old as the hills. Just ask any American; we have quite a history of it ourselves that includes enslaving Africans and murdering Native Americans. It would be better for Mr. Bacile to direct his wrath at that hatred. Instead, he has singled out a billion people who worship differently than he does and incites discrimination and persecution against them.

The film has most certainly inspired hatred and persucution. Chris Stevens is dead simply because he was an American diplomat.

Mr. Bacile apparently lacks the wisdom to see that discrimination and persecution is not just wrong when it happens to a Copt, but when it happens to anybody.

[Iggo]

23. You gotta be fucking kidding me.

Un-fucking-believeable.

[FloridaJudy]

24. The only thing that could possibly make it watchable

Would be if the MST3K crew did a running commentary.

Alas, I fear Gypsy, Crow and Tom Servo would commit suicide by opening the airlocks after being forced to watch it for ten minutes. I know that in their place I certainly would!

[freshwest]

26. Agreed. That was the lamest few minutes I've ever seen. Was waiting for them to pop up at the bottom

[Plucketeer]

25. The film is stupid

the response to it - real or contrived, is stupid, and the concept of religion is stupid. I don't care WHAT deity you feel righteous about worshipping. Imagine a world without the idiocy of numerous imaginary superiors to fear and build monuments to.

[We_Must_Organize]

27. Agreed

I couldn't have said it better myself.