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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:49 PM

OOPS, Fox News Doesn't Bleep Out Fake Obama Voter.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 09:54 PM

1. Not a mistake.

 

It's more likely that they intentionally let the comment air.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:14 PM

2. It's official: Frank Luntz is now in full 'push poller' mode.

Much like Rasmussen polls, Frank Luntz has a double role in the right wing universe.

Rasmussen:
IN BETWEEN elections their job is to buck up the Republican troops by reporting bogus opinion polls showing higher than actual support for Republican candidates and Republican positions.
THE WEEK BEFORE an election, they report ACCURATE, SCIENTIFIC data so they can show an accurate correlation between their polls and the actual voting data, thus lending legitimacy to the propaganda work they do in between elections.

Frank Luntz:
IN PRIVATE: Does focus group research with REAL focus groups to obtain ACCURATE information of words and positions that can be used by the GOP propaganda machine. ('reverse discrimination' instead of 'affirmative action'; 'climate change' instead of global warming; 'culture of dependence' instead of 'lazy niggers' are all Frank Luntz, focus group-tested jargon used in hard-core GOP dogwhistle politics.)

IN PUBLIC: he does 'focus group' work with FAKE focus groups that are carefully selected to give answers that will boost GOP propaganda and buck up the troops, much like the inter-election Rasmussen polls.

THIS goofy episode of the Frank Luntz Puppet Show was the greatest proof I've ever seen of his role as a propagandist. Did you see at the end when he asked this group of 'undecided voters' who they'd decided to vote for based on the second debate? 13 people said Romney, 4 said Obama.

Yeah, RIGHT. The second debate convinced undecided voters to vote for Romney over Obama by a margin of THREE TO ONE? Maybe in Karl Rove's most steamy, erotic dream it did.


Seriously...FUCK YOU, FRANK!

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:43 PM

4. +++1

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Response to patrice (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:44 AM

9. Thanks! (love the PIE icon!) nt

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:38 PM

3. oh brother!

What a steaming pile. They all have the same smirk. It's like a bunch of rejects from the Jerry Springer show.

Be vigilant folks, the Repugs will not ever let up. They will fight even after they lose.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:46 PM

5. They always think that all you have to do is say someone is a liar & you don't have to SHOW

with the facts precisely how they are a liar.

I have experienced that a lot with people like this; just saying it makes it true.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:49 PM

6. It's interesting that this is the new meme

"Obama lied, didn't come through on his promises."

They really can't find anything to discredit him for so they use this vague charge that can be supported to their fools by lies. No one on that side looks stuff up or even tries to find out the truth.

My incredibly racist republican neighbor came by a few days ago and he said exactly the same thing. Obama lied, he hasn't done any of the stuff he said he'd do.

It is so sad. Our president has done so much, even in the face of unprecedented obstructionism from republicans, and these people don't know about any of it. They also don't seem to know anything about the last republican administration, like it never happened.

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Response to eyewall (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:28 AM

7. I have one better than your neighbor.

Since I was homeless, I was lucky to find someone from a church to help me till I found a job. Unfortunately she is a tea bagger. And Obama wants to take over the government. So my brain is swelling from Sean "Hasen't Any" and all the other braindead wing nuts on TV.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:13 AM

8. I'm surprised people's heads don't explode from exposure to that stuff.

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Response to eyewall (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:03 AM

10. "He hasn't done any of the stuff he said he'd do."

Next time somebody says that, you can recite the following:

1. Stopped economy from plummeting by passing the stimulus. (DJI 8000 when he took office, 13 000 now. Good news for your RETIREMENT FUND.)

2. Iraq war ENDED

3. UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE (evaded every President since Truman) PASSED (a 'big fucking deal' to quote Uncle Joe)

4. Wall Street REFORMED (Dodd Frank law)

5. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau CREATED

6. BP Oil Spill PLUGGED, $1 billion trust fund wrung out of BP to clean up their mess. (Compare that to GHW Bush and his vapid response to the EXXON VALDES spill, where he shrugged and said 'not my problem. Go sue Exxon.')

7. BIN LADEN DEAD.

8. Don't ask don't tell ENDED.

9. Equal pay for equal work (Lilly Ledbetter Law) ENACTED.

10. MEDICARE BOOSTED.

11. Un-funded Bush Era Prescription Drug Program DONUT HOLE PLUGGED.

12. Democratic reforms in the middle east started (ARAB SPRING)

13. Gadaffi DEAD (that one REALLY makes conservative heads explode, given that Reagan tried to kill Gaddafi in a 1986 bombing raid on Tripoli and failed).

14. Student Loans EXPANDED by cutting out banks as middle men (no more private profits with public risk).

15. Car FUEL EFFICIENCY STANDARDS ENACTED. Want to cut dependence on foreign oil? How about STARTING by DOUBLING Fuel efficiency in cars instead of strip mining Yellowstone Park?

16. Detroit auto industry RESCUED. A million jobs saved, MONEY PAID BACK IN FULL, GM now number 1 auto manufacturer.

17. TARP bank bailouts REPAID WITH INTEREST. (Thus, by definition, no longer a 'bail out.')

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:33 AM

11. I have to quibble about #6 BP oil spill plugged, 1 billion fund wrung out of BP...

Don't get me wrong, I am a die hard Progressive who is constantly embarrassed by my fellow Texans, especially the Shrub. I wish that Ann Richards was still alive to talk about the huge silver foot in Rmoney's mouth! Lol. To make it to become POTUS you have to do some deals with the Devil, and Obama did so with BP. The summer of 2010 before the midterm elections people were starting to call the continuing oil spill, Obama's Katrina. BP came to Obama with a turnkey plan of a 20 billion dollar fund headed by one of the worst lying human pieces of garbage, Kenneth Feinberg. There was never 20 billion in a Fund, and only now under a class action bull shit deal is BP starting to settle the 80% of the victims who have yet to have an offer. BP has done a masterful job of spin, in large part because they bribed all coastal Governers, aired their propaganda on every coastal media outlet (so they would not run any victims stories for fear of losing the massive ad money). So nothing gets out to the rest of the world but their version. Obama is complicit in that in return for blessing this deal and calling it a great deal, and giving BP the Coast Guard to do their bidding and back up their story, BP could take the heat off of Obama before the mid-terms. I know because all I have done since March 23, 2005, when BP blew up their Texas City, Tx refinery killing 15 and injuring thousands, is fight BP in litigation. Obama does have to play the game. I am voting for him again, but he has harmed every victim of this spill and has never stepped in since to get BP to come clean. BP sprayed tons of Corexit which is killing the seafood industry just to sink the oil to avoid the fines per barrel. Useless Eric Holder never investigated anyone criminally and only an engineer caught destroying evidence of how much oil leaked out will go to jail!

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:05 AM

12. EXACTLY

Right on, this needs to be said over and over, perhaps it will penetrate the rather thick skulls of our RW brethern and sisteren.

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Response to drynberg (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:00 PM

14. I doubt it, they're a lost cause. But it should at least be repeated to independents and

uncommitted voters.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:13 PM

15. Thanks for the consice list!

That is exactly the point, the people on the right actually don't know any of this. They DON"T KNOW. Which is an indictment of Fox News and RW media. They've been trained to not listen to the President's speeches and not expose themselves to any news or information source except the approved propaganda machine.

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Response to eyewall (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:19 AM

16. Not just the RW media. The mainstream media is just as guilty. And, in a way that's worse, given

given that the RW media is a propaganda machine, while the MSM professes to be unbiased and investigative.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:24 AM

17. That's a good point

The MSM doesn't teach hate like the RW media but they enable it by not refuting the ridiculous crap that's fed the gullible consumers of the real propaganda. They also leave out all the facts that could make people a lot happier with things around them, like the outstanding job this administration and their limping Congress has already done.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:30 AM

13. Wasn't it Luntz in 2008 that blatantly described a show of hands against as favoring the Repub? NT

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