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Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
Thu May 19, 2022, 03:38 AM May 2022

The same people who oppose virtually every effort to improve life for children & their mothers- Sanders



The loudest voices in the Republican Party demanding that women be forced to give birth against their will are exactly the same people who oppose virtually every effort here in Congress designed to improve life for children and their mothers. 05/17/2022.


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The same people who oppose virtually every effort to improve life for children & their mothers- Sanders (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 May 2022 OP
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Bernie in '24 magicguido May 2022 #2
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Sounds good to me FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #4
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+1000 Duppers May 2022 #5
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Here. Let me just condense all this into one Truth rant for easy reading. Budi May 2022 #9
This! mcar May 2022 #11
This. The 2016 electoral disaster and what came since are the legacy Hortensis May 2022 #12
Oh, what nonsense! markpkessinger May 2022 #13
Thank you. Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #14

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Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Here. Let me just condense all this into one Truth rant for easy reading.
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:59 PM
May 2022

1. Umm. You called Plannerd Parenthood "Establishment"
Now you come here as some new wanna-be icon of women's rights?
Where were you.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113813464

2. No
He trashed her name, her lifetime mandate of women's rights, her worth.

Now here he stands, Roe is lost. Decades of long hard fought women & human rights were ignored, mocked diminished & never spoken when it was all on the line & warnings sounded.

Planned Parenthood is 'Establishment', he stated.

Age 30,
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy

Ignored the warnings. Never spoke about it.
Now its a useful campaign propaganda tool.
"Send Money cuz we're fighting for you!"
"Planned Parenthood is ESTABLISHMENT"
His words then, and he should repeat that handy campaign slogan now again.
Why not now?

3.Appropriate headline
"The same people who oppose virtually every effort to improve life for children & their mothers- Sanders"

That was You bernie.
You never spoke a word about the matter until now, when it was too late.

"Planned Parenthood is Establishment", your words.
Repeat those words now. Why not?

Say it now bernie.

4.Briahna Joy Gray. You hired her.
Just a reminder.
BJG went on to work on the Bernie campaign after she helped Stein lose the Hillary SC, to Trump.

Talk about fucking hubris, man. Just absolutely no shame. And she did it again in 2020.



These rights & the Supreme Court didn't matter then apparently, because you never spoke up about it. In fact you hired onto your next campaignas Press Sec, the same one who stated "the SC doesn't matter". Bjg, Jill Stein's 2016 campaign mgr.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/moguldom.com/191455/briahna-joy-gray-hired-as-national-press-secretary-for-bernie-sanders-campaign/amp/
"Planned Parenthood is Establishment" ~bernie
"The Supreme Court doesn't matter", bjg

Say it again louder now, bernie.
Why not?

This is now part of the history that brought our Rights to this point of no return.

What did you do for us when we needed you.
Say those roaring campaign words again today Mr Sanders.
Why not?

5 This you bernie?
Sure was important enough then, for you to want it published. You were that proud of it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy

Face it. You have never considered the dignity & rights of women to be of any importance until now.
When have you ever been a voice for us?

Never.
But you dragged thru the dirt, the one voice we had.
Just as you dragged women in your infamous writings at age 30.
When that same woman you degraded, began her lifes journey working in the south for children's rights to healthcare, women's rights to their own autonomy & their reproductive health care & on to the world stage in Bejing.

We all see what you've done for us.
Not a damned thing.

"Planned Parenthood is Establiiushment"
Say it now again.
Why not?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. This. The 2016 electoral disaster and what came since are the legacy
Fri May 20, 2022, 05:45 PM
May 2022

of the faux-progressive, actually LW anti-establishment populists lead by Sanders, counterpart to the RW anti-establishment populists lead by tRump. Plus what is still to come.

I'm genuinely grateful that, subsequently threatened with grave, immediate danger of RW revolution, he mostly withdrew the leadership LW anti-establishment insurgents rallied to. They're still what they are and still attacking of course, but significantly handicapped by a previous charismatic strongman leader stepping back to more of a figurehead role and no replacement.

And we wait to see what the legacy we all will leave those who come will be.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
13. Oh, what nonsense!
Sat May 21, 2022, 06:24 PM
May 2022

Bernie is not responsible for Hillary's loss in 2016! Roughly 12% of Bernie primary voters either didn't vote in the general or voted third party. But 88% DID vote for her, and that's a hell of a lot bigger percentage than the percentage of Hillary voters who came out for Obama in 2008! What's more, Bernie campaigned -- HARD -- for Hillary in the general election! And that 12% who refused to vote for her were never going to vote for her in any case.

The fact of the matter is that the Democratic Party insisted on going with a party favorite over a candidate who could have drawn more independent and unaffiliated voters, among whom Hillary had historically high disapproval numbers. Now, that disapproval may not have been entirely fair, but independent/unaffiliated voters are critically important for any Democrat in order to win elections nationally.

Look, Hillary made a lot of unforced errors in that campaign. In a year when populist sentiments were running high, while Trump was barnstorming the country with one huge rally after another, Hillary chose to remain aloof, confining herself mostly to small gatherings of wealthy donors -- which didn't exactly dispel the suspicions of those who thought she was too close to Wall Street.

She could have insulated herself from the damage from the Podesta email dump, too, if she had released her Wall Street bank speeches during the primary, when Bernie challenged her to do so. But she opted to stonewall, leaving her wide open to the Wikileaks dump late in the campaign.

And of course, there was Comey's bit.

All of this is to say that it is past time to put this zombie lie about Bernie causing her to lose in 2016 to rest. It's not only patently untrue, it is also needlessly alienating and divisive at a time when that is the last thing this party needs!

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
14. Thank you.
Sat May 21, 2022, 08:55 PM
May 2022

I thought this was an inspiring and needed speech, hardly thought it would have caused controversy here at this late date, but I should have known better. Thank you for stating the facts, I live near Vermont and Bernie is very popular here. But does that mean that these voters suddenly decided that TFG was a better option than Hillary? Not on your life - I remember a conversation I had with those who currently live in Vermont the summer before the election and we all agreed that the next person who drove by would be a better option than TFG. And the truth is that the majority of American voters chose Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, the fact that an antiquated process caused the candidate chosen by fewer voters was allowed to assume office is the issue that we should be angry about, not that we had a Democratic primary.

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