Three former Oath Keepers/military veterans testified at trial today. Here's why it left me hopeful

[ItsjustMe]

[BOSSHOG]

1. Why would someone want to overturn the results of a free and fair election in the USA

IF THEY WERE KEEPING THEIR OATH? Maybe that brilliant statesperson marge Greene can splain it to me.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. They agree with your interpretation of oath but disagree on your premise that it was free and fair

You blithely slid over your premise when it is central to the issue.

You and I will undoubtedly agree that they can have beliefs of their own, but they are not entitled to their own set of facts. They would even agree with that, but dispute the facts. The core problem is that their fact-checking is shitty as hell due to a lack of critical thinking skills.

I don't know the solution to that, but I am sure it is not simple.

If you truly believed that, say, a million RW thugs had stolen and tampered with ballot boxes and election machines to steal an election blatantly when it had been won by our side by, say, 6 million votes and a couple dozen electoral votes, then you'd be "up in arms" too, so to speak. You'd be considering joining mass actions in the streets or DC or even organizing them.

Well, from their perspective, those are the "facts" they believe. They are convinced that tRump got 5 to 10 million more votes than Biden. Likewise they believe Pence could have turned the election over to tRump on Jan 6 while we know it is nonsense.

It's a problem.

[brush]

2. Hope Kirshner realizes that's only 3 out of how many...

who stayed to help stage the attempted coup.

Don't give those white supremacist asshole undeserved breaks.