Trump DOJ spied electronically on Congressional enemies

[UCmeNdc]

[Lovie777]

1. Democrats and McCain................

[Ferrets are Cool]

2. You can blame Cheny for this chit

[Mister Ed]

3. Must be that "weaponization of the federal government" that I keep hearing about. n/ t

[SouthernDem4ever]

9. +1

[usonian]

11. Every accusation is a confession.

[alwaysinasnit]

4. k&r for visibility

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Nixon would be proud

[Botany]

6. What laws didn't he break? And was he trying to cover up his work for and with Russia/Putin?

Cattle Rustling or maybe illegal gill net fishing for salmon? And who did this work for him?
Did Bill Barr know about this? And did he help?

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If Garland and the DoJ have proof of this illegal spying by TFG on people like Adam Schiff he, Trump, needs
to brought in for questioning ASAP.

[OhNo-Really]

7. FBI ? And they if so

Who was in charge of FBI? Wray? Why did Barr & Trump trust Wray?

What other DOJ agency could spy on US soil? Or

Did someone at DOJ collaborate with individual agents? Or with off the books former agents?

A Watergate type of maneuver?

[Botany]

8. Please show me the warrants that would be needed to be in place to do this spying?

If members of the DoJ/FBI/NSA/CIA/GOP/Stone and so on did this spying w/out the needed
warrants they were breaking the law. LOCK 'EM UP.

[LiberalLovinLug]

10. "This is a bombshell story!"

Yeah, well get in line.


Sick to think how well Bannon's theory of "just cause chaos" works so well. One after the other possible crimes. I can see how simply the plethora of charges would have reverse effect on his supporters. That its easy to lead these cult sheep into believing that if they are looking at this many crimes for one man, it just proves there simply MUST be something nefarious going on with the big bad Democratic government weaponizing law enforcement. No man could be that prosecuted for so many crimes at once right??????

Also taking advantage of how slow a process justice is....when its done right with all the t's crossed and i's dotted. They just move on to their next crime which they may or may not be discovered for. If they do....meh.....move on to the next one as the first one is still bogged down in the courts anyways.

[aggiesal]

12. And who is surprised by this? n/t

[peppertree]

13. His pal Macri in Argentina did the same thing - although he got away with it

thanks to right-wing courts (on which he spied as well).

Surely we can do better.

[MagaSmash]

14. Just learned E. Jean is suing "Grab 'em by the Pussy"; a SECOND time.

[TwilightZone]

18. She's already sued him twice.

She's asking to amend the first suit, filed in 2019.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/22/nyregion/carroll-trump-cnn-defamation.html

[barbtries]

15. jeez.

there's a virtual cornucopia of outrages on DU today. i think i need to check my BP.

trans girl not allowed to graduate as herself
pregnant women forced to carry non-viable fetuses against their will, even forced to stay in hospital under threat of arrest and being proselytized daily while there, also against their will
trump incessantly fouling our lives
"Moms for Liberty" - my ass.
trump secretly surveilling the phone communications of MOC while in office! (that should get some heads rolling)

i'm sure there's more, much more, but I'm feeling slightly overwhelmed with disgust and frustration at the moment.

[RussBLib]

20. sometimes you just need to take a break from it all

...but then I feel a little guilty for tuning out. But tuning out has to be better for your mental health than always being tuned in.

[barbtries]

24. it is I'm afraid.

DU keeps me informed along with the Meidas Touch etc.

There's one thing I just cannot address and that's the election in 2024. I cannot stress enough how sick I am of the perpetual campaign. When it's 2024, then I will do my best to make sure the Democrats win. Until then, I can't do it. I just cannot. I pretty much stopped listening to Pod Save America and even Rachel Maddow, all the pundits who think it's fun to be in a perpetual campaign. Polls constantly being shared and discussed. It's a long time away!

i wish we were like England and people got 6 weeks to campaign and then they governed until the next campaign season. Money has destroyed any semblance of sense in this regard.

[Hotler]

16. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah .... can't even listen anymore.

20-months away from a possible fascist take over.......

[SleeplessinSoCal]

17. My family doesn't seem to notice or care.

Are we here at DU in the bubble? It's a safe space, but what are we doing? Sounding an alarm only we hear.

[TwilightZone]

19. "Are we here at DU in the bubble?"

Essentially, yes. We tend to focus on different things than the average person (or voter) does or will. We also tend to impart more importance to day-to-day developments than is perhaps warranted.

That doesn't mean that the events aren't important or noteworthy. The average voter just doesn't hyper-focus on every new development and/or the minutiae like we do and is more concerned about keeping their jobs and their families housed and fed, among other priorities.

I partly blame MSNBC and liberal bloggers for this. They breathlessly declare that everything that happens, however minor, is BREAKING NEWS, always in all caps, and it tends to spill over onto DU, in part because that's where DUers get much of their content and news. At some point, it just became the boy who cried wolf, and when a news item of particular importance does actually happen, it gets buried in the noise.

That is especially true with all things Trump. I've lost count of the number of events that were going to undeniably DESTROY (again, all caps) Trump or various Republicans.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

23. We agree.

Although I am one who gets news from Nicolle, Rachel and Chris. I must be addicted. I even brought Nicolle up in my car. Everything at home is an uphill battle due to illness of my sister and hubby. Also my car, computer , TV, and phones are giving me fits. So much time spent trying to function.

I really should go to a psycho therapist. But to speak of politics? My family is addicted to "alternative facts".That is still my biggest problem of all.

[Uncle Joe]

21. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread UCmeNdc

[Hortensis]

22. "with Donald tRump a lot of the roads lead back to Russia & some sort of misdoing there."

Apparently Katyal believes tRump had ordered unconstitutional surveillance, metadata searches, of members of congress, Apple, and tRump's top lawyer, Don McGann. This was triggered by tRump's need to find and prosecute whoever was giving documented information to the press about highly sensitive meetings of tRump officials with the Russian government.

But, "the rationale, as it always is with the tRump misdeeds, is about Russia... That's of course why Jim Comey, the director of the FBI, was fired as well...

Katyal leaves the door open to the possibility that investigation will not show tRump targeted specific political opponents, but that's not known yet. But in any case, the executive branch spying on the legislative branch is in itself especially dangerous to democracy.

Everything that might lead to further investigation of tRump-Russia is big to me for that reason alone, plus the others.

[Rhiannon12866]

25. And couldn't this lead to additional charges or would this be part of Jack Smith's investigation??

[Hortensis]

26. I always hope. Whether for illegal spying on another branch

of government or traitorous activities with Russia. The latter is always the big crime to me, or was until the failed coup d'etat and its continuation and the tRump/Republican pandemic holocaust.