Lets Settle This Here And Now Once And For All!

[Floyd R. Turbo]

Stuffing or Dressing? Cooked in the Bird or Out?

[democratisphere]

1. Stuffing.

In bird.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

2. 😋

[hlthe2b]

6. With a meat thermometer reading that verifies any Salmonella is dead, I'd agree

Sorry to be a bummer, but better than a bad "day after"...

[democratisphere]

9. What worked for the Pilgrims, works for me.

[hlthe2b]

41. I have to admit the few times I served real stuffing and turkey to friends/family

I not only checked about 8 different areas on the turkey for optimal temp and 5 or so areas of the internal stuffing, but I plopped the stuffing in a covered dish and nuked it in the microwave a few minutes until steamy as well.

I just don't take chances anymore... but anyone who doesn't think the internal "juices" don't make the difference in stuffing v dressing, is missing something.

[sl8]

3. Sometimes there's not enough room in the bird for stuffing.

An oldie, but a goodie:

[delisen]

14. Thankful Eagle Stew isn't the commemorative dish,

[Wolf Frankula]

67. But everybody had their mouths set for Roast Eagle with all the trimmings.

You put our national bird in the oven.

Wolf

[Turbineguy]

104. Ah! I see you've

learned the real History of the United States of America instead of that propaganda they teach in schools.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

17. Hahahahaha!

[AJT]

4. I still call it stuffing, but after getting food poisoning one

Thanksgiving I make it outside the bird.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

18. Bummer! 😢

[Cirque du So-What]

5. I don't care what you call it

but it belongs outside. Filling the cavity interferes with convective flow, leading to uneven cooking.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

19. 😢

[SonofDonald]

7. Outside the bird, inside my mouth by the shovelful.

It's coming soon, yum yum!

[Floyd R. Turbo]

20. 😋

[padah513]

8. I say outside the bird, but thanks for the pictures.

Time for a road-trip to the local supermarket.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

21. You are welcome!

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

10. Dressing and

Both in and out. Otherwise there is never enough. I will admit, while liking it either way, the dressing/stuffing cooked IN the bird is better.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

22. 😋

[Wounded Bear]

11. Yes...

[Floyd R. Turbo]

23. 👍🏻😋

[MontanaMama]

12. Turd in the punch bowl here...

Can’t handle stuffing or dressing anywhere anytime on any level. Gives me the willies!! My hubs loves it so my mother in law brings a little dish of it just for him. For the record she makes it outside the bird and she calls it dressing.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

24. ✌🏻

[Corvo Bianco]

31. It's just soggy bread!

[MontanaMama]

59. Yes!

I've found a fellow dressing/stuffing denier!!

[delisen]

13. I must admit best Turkey made of tofu.

Am not vegan but must admit the best turkey and dressing I ever tasted was a tufu creation, spices, herbs, and juices.

It was holiday food magic.

Sorry I never got the recipe.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

25. 😋

[GeorgeGist]

15. Both,

[Floyd R. Turbo]

26. 👍🏻😋

[Kleveland]

16. Both....

And use of fast read thermometer is always the right move when cooking any meats, especially chicken.

We always remove all of the stuffing from the bird after cooking. We also make extra outside of the bird.

--SNIP--

Safe Temperatures

Food should never be held at temperatures between 40 and 140 F. That's because most bacteria will quite happily reproduce in that range. It reproduces very slowly, if at all, below 40 and above 140 F. But note, the temperatures at which bacteria is killed varies according to the microbe.

For example, salmonella is killed by heating it to 131 F for one hour, 140 degrees for a half-hour, or heating it to 167 F for 10 minutes. When it comes to killing microorganisms, both heat level and time affect the equation.

--SNIP--

https://www.thespruce.com/tip-safe-cooking-temperatures-913410

[Floyd R. Turbo]

27. Good info! 👍🏻😋

[DFW]

28. Stuffing inside the turkey

The biggest German invasion of U.S territory (outside of visits to Disney World in January) is when we make Thanksgiving dinner in Düsseldorf and our friends come over for the feast. We import the stuffing and the cranberries from the States. My wife got the "how to" instructions from my mom while she was still alive.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

29. Cool! 😋

[DFW]

32. You should dig up Art Buchwald's column on explaining Thanksgiving to the French

He wrote it in 1952, but it is such a classic, some papers still run it on Thanksgiving.

He called it "Le Jour De Merci Donnant"

[Floyd R. Turbo]

34. Ill look it up!

[DFW]

39. Here you go:

http://www.marilynztomlins.com/articles/merci-donnant-art-buchwald-and-the-french/

[Floyd R. Turbo]

44. Thank you!

[sl8]

99. That was a very good read, thank you.

I wasn't familiar with the McCarran Act that he mentioned, so I had to look that up.

McCarran Internal Security Act - Wikipedia

So, not only did I get a little entertainment, I learned something new.

I'm holding you responsible.

[Siwsan]

30. I stuff the bird with lots of fresh herbs, garlic and veg, leaving no room for 'stuffing'

so that gets cooked separately. And the flavor of the herbs and garlic permeate the meat, which makes it even tastier.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

36. Yum! 😋

[DinahMoeHum]

103. Same here. Mostly a rub of salt and herbs in the walls of the cavity.

. . .strew some carrots and onions in the cavity.

[asiliveandbreathe]

33. Both - inside and out...for years been cookin' Thanksgiving dinner - as I am sure

most here have as well - -there is only one turkey - butterball..oh I have tried others over the years..nope..only butterball...and only Bells ready mix stuffing..can't buy in stores in AZ..ordered last week..just arrived yesterday...

The outside stuffing is complimented by adding cooked gizzards (liver for the most part) and pulled meat from the neck..I chop them up..years I tell ya' - only reason for additional outside stuffing..hubby doesn't like what I add...fam' does...

sweet potatoes, mashies, butternut squash, covered in marshies, green bean casserole, small boiling onions in cheese, along with broccoli in cheese...gravy of course..I have been cheating with turkey drippings and Heinz homestyle turkey gravy..warmed rolls..and - homemade blueberry and cranberry sauce..regular cranberry sauce too..and that is the rest of the story..

[Floyd R. Turbo]

37. What time should we be there? 😋

[asiliveandbreathe]

40. I was going to add that invite.....only Dems allowed....LOL eom

[matt819]

35. I'm sure you'll hit a lot of nerves here

When I was growing up, it was stuffing. It came from a bag, nd, no, it was not stuffed into the turkey.

Since getting married a gazillion years ago, it became dressing. It still was not stuffed into the turkey. And it didn't come from a bag.

That's it. From my perspective, discussion is closed.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

38. Well then! Thats that!

[asiliveandbreathe]

42. Got it!! - I suppose after "all" these years I have never had a problem..I understand

some have...thing is, it never stays long in the turkey...gone in the blink of an eye..our turkey dinner is sooo New England....Grammy, then Mum and then me..

Happy Thanksgiving to ALL!

[FSogol]

43. If you know how to cook: In the bird. If you are a beginner & don't know what food safety means: OUT

[Floyd R. Turbo]

46. 😏👍🏻

[Lars39]

45. Dressin is always cooked in its own large pan.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

47. 😋

[AzureCrest]

50. A lot of small pans means more crispy edge.................

[Lars39]

73. Yum :-)

[AzureCrest]

48. Dressing (outside) with giblet gravy.

Much lower maintenance.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

49. 😋

[AzureCrest]

57. Next question,

Pumpkin Pie, or Sweet Potato?

[Floyd R. Turbo]

61. Pumpkin pie, yam casserole! 😋

Welcome to the club!

[elleng]

51. Call the butterball hotline!

http://www.butterball.com/turkey-talk-line

[Floyd R. Turbo]

54. Love it!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

52. I call it stuffing and I fix it inside the bird.

I make sure I get one with the pop-out thermometer. As soon as it pops, the bird comes out of the oven and the stuffing comes out of the bird. I suspect that people who've gotten food poisoning have gotten it because the cook left the stuffing inside for far too long.

And yes, the turkey juices give a flavor that no out-of-the-bird stuffing can hold a candle to.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

55. 👍🏻😋

[sdfernando]

53. Cook stuffing OUTSIDE the bird...then...

stuff the bird with it just before serving.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

56. 😋

[Freddie]

58. Neither, its Filling

The correct Pennsylvania Dutch term. Cooked outside the bird for food safety reasons plus it’s better that way. Also that way you can assemble it (my delicious recipe is a labor-intensive PITA) after the bird starts cooking. Soft bread cubes, celery, onions, potatoes, eggs, milk and lots of butter.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

60. 👍🏻😋

[happy feet]

62. Dressing

Specifically wild rice and mushroom dressing in casserole dish.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

64. 😋

[Squinch]

63. Dressing. Outside. It's just the right thing to do.

Because it's what Grandma did.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

65. Well then! That settles it! 😋

[Squinch]

66. .

However you do it, have a happy one!

[Floyd R. Turbo]

68. And you! 🍗🥧🥂

[Thor_MN]

91. Reminds me of cooking ham. "You have to cut the end off the ham, it's better that way..."

Explains granddaughter to great granddaughter.

"Why"?

"Uhh, because... It's better that way... Mom?"

"That's the way we always did it. You have to. It's better that way..."

"Why"?

They go to the living room and ask the matriarch of the family, long since retired from the active cooking duties.

"NaNa? Why do we cut the end off the ham when cooking it"?

"Oh, dears, I never had a roasting pan big enough to do a whole ham..."

[Squinch]

100. LOLOL! That actually happened in my family!

Doesn't matter. When you want to fix something you use Dad's hammer because it knows how to do things. When you want to make Thanksgiving, you don't mess with the Grandma or the Nana methods.

The true horror occurs when Nana's and Grandma's methods differed.

[benld74]

69. Stuffing if STUFFED inside the bird Dressing if its outside the bird GEEZ

[Floyd R. Turbo]

71. I know that!

“Geez” indeed! 😏

[benld74]

74. VERY long day on my part sorry

Outside the bird of course

[Floyd R. Turbo]

79. No need to apologize!

Hope today is better!

[Solly Mack]

70. Dressing. Always outside the bird, never inside it.

I use my mother's recipe for dressing, which originally belonged to her mother-in-law, my grandmother.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

72. 😋

[pansypoo53219]

75. i hate stuffing & ruins gravy.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

80. No pudding for you! 😏

[kimbutgar]

76. I stuff with vegetables and make the stuffing separate.

Then I freeze the vegetables and when I have finished the turkey I use them to make a tasty soup!

And I throw in some season dry stuffing mix to the soup to season and thicken up.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

81. Nice! 👍🏻

[Jack-o-Lantern]

77. Some of stuffing outside the bird for me (a vegetarian)...

...and inside the bird for other family members and guests.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

82. Yum! 😋

[Codeine]

78. Stuffing, and there ain't no bird involved.

And none of that raisins or rice shit either. Bread, onions, celery: full stop.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

83. We agree! 😋

[zanana1]

84. There is only one type of acceptable stuffing.

French Canadian meat stuffing IN the bird. That's it.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

85. French Canadian! Thats harsh! Gotta be against the law, in Quebec anyway!

[Kali]

86. both and both

well, stuffing gets a slight edge over dressing when I think about it, but I use the them interchangeably.
I cook some inside and some out. inside, I usually use some cheesecloth so I can get it all out and it doesn't contaminate the bird (I have texture issues), what I cook in a separate pan I use some of the broth from simmering the neck and gizzards, but it does get a nice crispyness that the more saturated inside version doesn't get.

I love the smell of it (my recipe is a cornbread and sausage one with onion, celery, and bell pepper) but I can not stand the texture of soggy bread, so I never eat it.

Don't like candied yams either, but I will sure take some mashed potatoes and graby!

[Floyd R. Turbo]

87. Mmmmmmmmmm! 😋

[patricia92243]

88. You stuff stuffing in the cavity of bird. Dressing - such as salad dressing is served

on top of the food or separate as a side dish - such as turkey dressing.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

92. You aint wrong! 😋

[lindysalsagal]

89. 1. Stuffing. 2. Outside so the bird doesn't get over-cooked, and also

so bacteria doesn't contaminate the stuffing.

PLUS! It gets crunchy!

[Floyd R. Turbo]

93. Crunchy! Mmmmmm! 😋

[Thor_MN]

90. I do my bread crumb, spice, sausage, onion, celery mixture under the skin...

So it's outside the cavity of the bird, but inside the skin of the bird. Druffing? Stressing?

A turkey is a thermodynamic hell to cook. The dark meat takes longer to cook and by the time it is done, the white meat is dried out. So I separate the skin over the breast meat and give it an insulating coat stuffing/dressing, under the skin. Slows down the cooking of the white meat and avoids having stuffing in the cavity of the bird. I toss some aromatics (carrots, onion, celery and apple) in the cavity, but it is otherwise open to facilitate even heating.

It's the one thing I think I cook better than my mother - she is so obsessed with getting the dark meat done that the white meat is a crumbly, dry desert. My family thinks my method works pretty well, I've been tasked with bringing a turkey for the last 10 years...

[Floyd R. Turbo]

94. Great way to do it! 😋

[Kali]

98. they aren't as pretty but, but cook it breast-down

and that hell is way more manageable!

[ProfessorGAC]

95. We Do Prime Rib

Don't care for turkey
Dark meat is boring and white meat is more boring!

[Floyd R. Turbo]

96. Why do you hate America? 😏

[ProfessorGAC]

97. Who's the POTUS?

You have your answer, Floyd!
Funny reply, dude!

[Squinch]

101. .

[DinahMoeHum]

102. Top one is stuffing, bottom one is dressing.

Stuffing is when it's cooked in the bird.
Dressing is when it's cooked in a casserole, outside of the bird.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

107. Yep! 😋

[infidel621]

105. Preferably in the bird but...

Since I am not a fan of homemade stuffing, especially my in-laws stuffing, I bring my own container of Stove Top. I know, go ahead and shudder, throw some comments, the in-laws don't hold back on their opinion of my choice. I just think their stuffing is gross and I have yet to find any I do like. Besides, as a family full of Republicans, their comments about my stuffing choice is preferable to the other comments they could be making.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

108. My deepest sympathies!

Not on your choice of stuffing, but your republican relatives!

[ashling]

106. Dressing - which must be based on cornbread

In the turkey or out, it is destined for my face and some possibly down the front of my shirt.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

109. So that none goes to waste,......