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Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:03 PM Jul 2018

I was thinking about the USA and population growth. A question about that..

Not a trick question, but do you know the answer?..(after some thought, I figured it out..but the
answer is easy.)

Here is the question....Since 1940, most of the strongest population growth in the USA has occurred in 3 states:

California, Texas, and Florida.. Why? or...Why not New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Illinois like it used to be? ...(.I guess it is more than one question, but it is about one idea,)
...

...Is there any one cause for the change? If there is one, what is it? ..It ain't a trick question, but I think there is one reason...(in my opinion...what is your opinion?)....and it is not..no, NOT... people having sex and having babies....that is NOT THE CORRECT ANSWER..

I am a bit out of it tonite, why not a quiz, like I used to give when I was a teacher in a high school?

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Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
1. Warm winters? The problem of suffocatingly hot summers has been solved by
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jul 2018

air conditioning, and the horrors of yellow fever and malaria have been brought under control, so why not escape the blizzards and frozen pipes in the northern states? Just a shot in the dark, really. I have no idea.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
3. Quiz is over...you win...what you win...well ...I don't know..
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jul 2018

....Air Conditioning...changed the way we live in the U.S.A.

As it got cheaper and cheaper more and more places were available with it installed from the beginning. In the 40s..only the very wealthy had it, and certain venues, like movie theaters. The local movie house had it when I grew up in the 50s, but no one with middle income had it then...just the rich..

In 1972, I bought a room air conditioner for ..$225.00 (In today's money that would be equal to about $1100 - $1300. And that is depending on how you calculate the increase in value. I bought my first car in 1970 for $2000..

Same car today...about 18 to $20,000..(It was a 6 cylinder Dodge Dart in 1970)...oh well I did say it was an easy quiz...thanks to anyone who even thought about it for a few moments..

Oh, just for a point of info, I saw an air conditioner, similar to the one I bought in 72, (in terms of power, not in terms of the way it was built)... on sale at Wall Mart..for about $125.00. Close to one half of the real cost in 1972, and close to one tenth of the price if accounts for inflation. And...often they are more efficient and better running then they were back in the day of 72..

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
7. Where I grew up, in the 1950's, the local theater and the two drug stores
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:46 PM
Jul 2018

(one Rexall, one Walgreen) were air-conditioned. Nothing else was. This was in the southern Appalachians of northern Georgia, where it didn't really get all that hot in summer. We would go to visit relatives in Florida almost every summer. Very few places were air-conditioned. The availability and affordability of air-conditioning absolutely changed the way we live.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
6. Texas too
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:34 PM
Jul 2018

Plus any state with a large Latino population will grow faster because their birth rate is higher.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
9. Air conditioning & the post war US Interstate Highway System.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 01:40 AM
Aug 2018

In 1955, Disney began exploring another location in the east and settled on Orlando, Fla.

At the time, 70% of the US population lived east of the Mississippi River.

1950, US population distribution MAP.







appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
12. Big changes for sure. I found some interesting info. here,
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 11:52 AM
Aug 2018

June 22, 2016, Business Insider, "Half Of The US Population Lives In These 9 States"

More than 330 million people live in the United States, but that doesn't mean the population is distributed evenly. Far from it. Using the latest US Census data, we determined that just nine states —

*California, Texas, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Georgia, Florida*-account for half of the entire US population. Half of the US population lives in these 9 states' Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-the-us-population-lives-in-just-9-states-2016-6
___________________________________

Demographic History of the United States-- Partial, Much More at the Link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States

- US Population 1950: 151,325,798;

- US Population 2010: 308, 745, 538

- Population growth projections: The U.S. population in 1900 was 76 million. In 1950, it rose to 152 million; by 2000 it had reached 282 million. *By 2050, it is expected to reach 420 million.*

- Migration within the United States -

The American West: In 1848, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, concluding the Mexican War, extended U.S. citizenship to approximately 60,000 Mexican residents of the New Mexico Territory and 10,000 living in California. However, much like Texas, the Mexican government had encouraged immigration and settlement of these regions from groups in the United States and Europe. Approximately half of this population is estimated to have been of American origin. In 1849, the California Gold Rush spurred significant immigration from Mexico, South America, China, Australia, Europe and caused a mass migration within the US, resulting in California gaining statehood in 1850, with a population of about 90,000.

- Rural flight: Rural flight is the departure of excess populations (usually young men and women) from farm areas. In some cases whole families left, as in the Dust Bowl in the 1930s. Much of rural America has seen steady population decline since 1920.

- Black migration out of the South: Main article: Great Migration (African American)
The Great Migration was the movement of millions of African Americans out of the rural Southern United States from 1914 to 1960. Most moved to large industrial cities, as well as to many smaller industrial cities.African-Americans moved as individuals or small groups. There was no government assistance. They migrated because of a variety of push and pull factors:
Push factor:
1.Many African-Americans wanted to avoid the racial segregation of the Jim Crow South and sought refuge in the supposed "Promised Land" of the North where there was thought to be less segregation 2.The boll weevil infestation of the cotton fields of the South in the late 1910s, reduced the demand for sharecroppers. 3.The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and its aftermath displaced hundreds of thousands of African-American farm workers;
Pull factors:
1. Income levels were much higher in the North, with far higher wages in the service sector. 2.The enormous growth of war industries in WW1 and WW2 created new job openings for blacks 3.World War I effectively put a halt to the flow of European immigrants to the industrial centers, causing shortages of workers in the factories. 4.In the 1930s Works Progress Administration, Civilian Conservation Corps and other relief programs in the North were more receptive to blacks. The WPA paid more in the North.

Census Bureau Population Change in the US, 1960-2000

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
11. As several others have said...
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:51 AM
Aug 2018

... those Rust Belt states have been losing population at a parlous rate as people migrate to where the jobs are. I reckon weather may play a role as well, but two of the three big gainers have jumped ahead in industry as the older states decay. Florida may be an anomaly, in that it is a big retirement state (so is Arizona). As more Baby Boomers retire and move to FLA, the population goes up.

Then there are the immigrants, who flow into those three states like water.

Having babies does account for some natural increase, though, you know. Since 1990, the US has been adding 4 million new citizens a year, which is a rate equivalent to the Baby Boom years. In absolute numbers, that's quite a few. As a % of the current population, though, it is below replacement numbers (considering that US pop is 200 million more today than when the Boom began).

-- Mal

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