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Kali

(55,008 posts)
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:24 AM May 2012

shit. this could only happen to me

horses rarely get mouth cancer - vet says she has only seen it twice in almost 30 years of practice. took pictures and everything. Maybe poor old Joe the Horse will be in a published article.

he isn't in pain yet, but this thing grew pretty fast and it has deformed the right side of his muzzle. he eats and drinks fine, it isn't affecting his back chewing teeth, but the incisors on that side are shifting out of position and if he had to make a living on his own by grazing he would starve pretty fast. he is starting to dribble some chewed food like horses with bad teeth will do. he might have a couple weeks before I have to put him down.

I have barely had him for a year. but of course I have grown attached to the old man. damn it.





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shit. this could only happen to me (Original Post) Kali May 2012 OP
Lovely old feller. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #1
oh god Kali May 2012 #15
I thought so. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #42
i love your pictures seabeyond May 2012 #2
really? did I know this? Kali May 2012 #16
no. i dont think i have ever said. we moved to ca. when i was 9. seabeyond May 2012 #25
that is how my Mom was Kali May 2012 #30
that works. my oldest brother was the same. dont know seabeyond May 2012 #35
Good thing Joe has you siligut May 2012 #3
thanks, siligut Kali May 2012 #17
How awful, my dear Kali... CaliforniaPeggy May 2012 #4
yeah it sucks Kali May 2012 #18
Bummer Kali. ohiosmith May 2012 #5
yeah Kali May 2012 #20
He's beautiful Kali livetohike May 2012 #6
heh Kali May 2012 #21
Mouth cancer?? WTF? Kali, I am so damn sorry - it always happens to the good ones... nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #7
yeah, weird huh? Kali May 2012 #22
Really bizarre. I wonder if the folks that sold him already had that diagnosis? riderinthestorm May 2012 #26
I don't know - it sure grew fast, so I doubt it. Kali May 2012 #31
I'm so sorry. blueamy66 May 2012 #8
thanks Kali May 2012 #23
Poor guy. I am so sorry. RebelOne May 2012 #9
hay was going for $20 a bale this winter! Kali May 2012 #24
aww poor guy. ceile May 2012 #10
thanks, ceile Kali May 2012 #32
I am really sorry littlewolf May 2012 #11
thank you Kali May 2012 #34
I love that photo of Joe over his ears as you're riding him. What a sweet old man Joe is ... I'm so Flaxbee May 2012 #12
I thought of her when I was writing. Kali May 2012 #36
Poor Joe. bluedigger May 2012 #13
Saddened to hear this Kali. Ptah May 2012 #14
so sorry Kali lovemydog May 2012 #19
Kali - hug Joe for me csziggy May 2012 #27
Sometimes doing the right thing really sucks. westerebus May 2012 #28
Oh, what a pretty boy! Rhiannon12866 May 2012 #29
That stinks Kali. bluesbassman May 2012 #33
thanks everybody Kali May 2012 #37
Remember that first day I visited. I never felt like such a horse's ass before. MiddleFingerMom May 2012 #43
Aw, poor old Joe. Such a hard thing for you. nolabear May 2012 #38
Poor Joe. pacalo May 2012 #39
That is so sad Worried senior May 2012 #40
I'm so sorry to hear that. geardaddy May 2012 #41
:'-( GoCubsGo May 2012 #44
That sounds like a bitter blow to take DFW May 2012 #45

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
1. Lovely old feller.
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:33 AM
May 2012

Give him some kisses from Oklahoma.
As a kid we had horses, one of whom was murdered just after we found out she was going to have a baby. She was a beautiful appaloosa. Some kid got pissed at my dad for not selling him liquor, so he stabbed her through the heart. I grew up with them and they were always high spirited and one thought he was a dog. He'd knock my dad down and lick his face. It was hilarious. I say all that to let you know I understand your sadness and I'm so sorry you are going to lose your friend, because that is what they become so quickly, so fiercely.
Hugs to you too. I wonder what the equivalent to the Rainbow Bridge is for Horses? An emerald green pasture and deep blue pond? He's got good company up there waiting on him.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
42. I thought so.
Thu May 10, 2012, 04:39 PM
May 2012

She was beautiful and gentle...and the kid is lucky my dad was friends with the police chief, so he just had him arrested instead of killing him right back.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. i love your pictures
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:33 AM
May 2012

i was born in whitetanks az. this brings back memories, of what it looks like, lol

i am sorry about your horse.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
25. no. i dont think i have ever said. we moved to ca. when i was 9.
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:29 PM
May 2012

But we had a couple acres, cows, chickens, a couple horses. My dad would milk the cow, pour thru a clothe and put in fridge. I hated it. All I wanted was some sidewalks. Lol. Nah, it was a good life.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
30. that is how my Mom was
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:14 AM
May 2012

she traded a horse for a bicycle, pretty much wanted out of here (until much later) - me? I was raised in town and would have traded the bike for the horse. this has ALWAYS been the place of my heart.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
3. Good thing Joe has you
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

You are both compassionate and sensible, I am sure he appreciates you. Sorry Kali.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
21. heh
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:55 PM
May 2012

he's not really that good looking, I just deleted the pix that showed his faults up. but he IS a wonderful old guy - the kind you can trust with anybody - scared novices or little kids (or fat old women )



Kali

(55,008 posts)
22. yeah, weird huh?
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:07 PM
May 2012

he has a couple of small hairless spots on his back that were a little scabby when I first got him and I was really watching them with his light color - figured that would be the most likely place for some kind of cancer so this was pretty unexpected.

at first I thought he was getting cud up under his lip and when I looked the lateral incisor was kind of pushed inward. There was no obvious sign of trauma but I though maybe one of the other horses managed to kick him and break it. But the gum kept getting bigger without any sign of abscess or infection so I sort of knew. Tried to deny it for a while but when he started dribbling feed I knew I had to make sure there wasn't something that could be done. meh I got some bute to give for a while if he starts to have pain, but I think when that happens it will just be time.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
26. Really bizarre. I wonder if the folks that sold him already had that diagnosis?
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:35 PM
May 2012

I hate to cast aspersions... (cast asparagus and all that but still....) its been such a short time since you bought him. Your guy's such an odd color. Greys almost always succumb to melanoma so we're always freakish about checking them over for that at my place but we don't see a lot of horses like your Joe in my zone.

Bute won't hold the pain back for too long. Call the vet sooner than later is my advice. Damn. Really sorry about that.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
31. I don't know - it sure grew fast, so I doubt it.
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:19 AM
May 2012

he was off a guest ranch that shut down, some girl bought him and probably he wasn't pretty enough for her. the guy that helps here got him from her, thinking since he was so big and stout he might be good to rope wild cattle off of, but he was really too old for that kind of rough work and I had asked him to keep an eye out for a couple of kid horses for me...so I traded some heifer calves for him. figured he would be good for 3 to 5 more years. just rotten luck is all.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
9. Poor guy. I am so sorry.
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:32 PM
May 2012

I used to own horses, but can't afford them now. I know it is going to be heartbreaking to put him down.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
24. hay was going for $20 a bale this winter!
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:23 PM
May 2012

freaking outrageous - it is "down" to $17.50 now

I'm lucky to be able to turn most of them out to find most if not all of their own feed and not have to pay for boarding, but for him and another old bum hay and $20 a bag senior feed takes a hunk of my already-squeaky-tight budget for sure.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
11. I am really sorry
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:43 PM
May 2012

always loved horses ... now I don't have the space for one :<

I am glad ol Joe has you to care for him ...
and sorry that you will have to put him down
enjoy what time you have with each other .

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
12. I love that photo of Joe over his ears as you're riding him. What a sweet old man Joe is ... I'm so
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:53 PM
May 2012

sorry to hear this.

At least his last year of life has been a good one, and you'll take care of him until the end.

I'm sorry, Kali. Kiss his muzzle for me. That nice soft spot between the nostrils.

Maybe AlienGirl (victim of mouth/tongue cancer) can meet up with him after he passes.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
36. I thought of her when I was writing.
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:32 AM
May 2012

Didn't want to trivialize human suffering with animal stuff as I do think people are over all more important, but you have made a beautiful connection there. Thanks.

as for "rider-cam" pix - it's always about keeping me out of the shot, that is the main reason for having a camera - so you can be BEHIND it.b

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
33. That stinks Kali.
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:23 AM
May 2012

I hope your remaining time with the old fella is good time and that he doesn't suffer too much.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
37. thanks everybody
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:36 AM
May 2012

I'm not ignoring the people I haven't replied to yet, just need a little break from this. Kind of a crappy day and I think I need to go hunt down some MFM funnies or something.

the support here is so great, I really appreciate it. thanks so much.

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
43. Remember that first day I visited. I never felt like such a horse's ass before.
Thu May 10, 2012, 04:52 PM
May 2012

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nolabear

(41,960 posts)
38. Aw, poor old Joe. Such a hard thing for you.
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:29 AM
May 2012

You and I both know the nitty gritty of living with and not just loving but being, in all ways, intimate with, critters. Sometimes it slaps you in the face when you just plain have to take charge of something awful.

Love him up for me for the next couple of weeks and then send him off easy.

Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
40. That is so sad
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:50 AM
May 2012

I know he knows you love him and will do whatever is best for him.

Sometimes life sucks.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
44. :'-(
Thu May 10, 2012, 05:02 PM
May 2012

Poor Joe. I'm glad he got to spend his last year with someone who treats him well, and isn't going to let him suffer.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
45. That sounds like a bitter blow to take
Thu May 10, 2012, 05:07 PM
May 2012

It's pretty easy to get attached to an animal like that, and REALLY painful when you have to put him or her down.

My sympathies, that has to be one tough decision (i.e. when?) you are looking at.

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