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Fans planning to attend a recent Pete Davidson comedy show got an unexpected surprise a non-disclosure agreement with a $1 million fine.
The comedians team required attendees to sign the NDA before entering the Bay Area venue where the Saturday Night Live cast member performed earlier this week.
In addition to signing the agreement, attendees were asked to put their phones and smartwatches in secure pouches for the duration of the show a practice that is becoming more common.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pete-davidson-sends-fans-nda-005513633.html
CurtEastPoint
(18,641 posts)I don't get him.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)His dad was a firefighter who died in the WTC on 9/11. He seems troubled, but is wicked smart and funny.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)targetpractice
(4,919 posts)... I suppose... Stuff about his father, dating Ariana Grande, living with depression/BPD, barely hanging onto his job at SNL.. I kind of get it. His stand up is his art, and way of expressing himself... He is an outstanding stand up comic... I wish him well, but an NDA won't keep anything secret.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,184 posts)that performers are concerned their shows will be recorded and sold. It's their right to protect their work, and if they want to record shows and sell them, they should benefit, not some thief with a phone camera.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,184 posts)When Kathy Griffin was on everyone's shit list because of the picture of her holding Trump's bloody head, she bought back the rights for ALL her cable specials. Now they're set up to be viewed or purchased through iTunes, Vudu, etc., and most of that money goes straight in her pocket.
Pete can tape his own shows, put together a program and sell it to HBO. If he can't get the price he wants, he can set it up to stream on all the different platforms out there.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)Given how people get so easily offended, how they illegally tape shows and edit them and take things out of context, it makes perfect sense. All it takes these days is one very short, out of context clip, posted on the internet w/ indignation and your career is ruined.
Can't say I blame him at all.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)An NDA prevents people from simply reviewing the show. I don't feel sorry for comedians.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)It's not easy to do. To write all your own original material and then put yourself out there. I try not to be offensive. My comedy is generally me making fun of myself and family. However, that touches on themes about being Southern, Southern-Baptist and being Gay. I'm sure there are some tight-asses who find some of my bits offensive because they hit a little too close to home.
I didn't ask you to feel sorry for anyone. I hoped that people might understand the reason why it has come to this. That the inability to make practically ANY joke without offending someone is what has caused this. The echo-chamber of indignation, whining and offense on the internet has caused this. There is a reason the term "snowflake" has come into use.
I don't always like the bits people like Bill Maher or Kathy Griffin do. But you can damn well be sure I'm going to support them when they cross the line from time-to-time. Overall, we're far better off with people like them than without. The purists among forget these things.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)it will continue to be a request with some performers
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)But a NDA with a 1 million dollar fine? How will we know if he is good or not?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)a requirement at the door but I wonder if the requirement at the door wasnt sent in advance to fans at the time of ticket purchase . If not that sucks
Dont like it then dont go imo but it should be mentioned at purchase so you can decide
Established media reviewers are probably given different options
First few performance users of phone pouches were met with outrage and freedom rants now its more meh.
Who knows this NDA thing may catch on !
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I saw over Twitter where people said no one laughed at a joke from a white comedian jabout black women, hair, and swimming.
Also recently comedians confronted Harvey Weinstein and for some reason that place had cameras inside and the comedians don't mind.
Im the Comedian Who Just Confronted Harvey Weinstein. Heres Why I Spoke Up.
Last Wednesday night, I walked into a bar to perform stand-up, and noticed Harvey Weinstein sitting in the room. I didnt know what to say, but I wanted to say something, so I made a joke that questioned why the event organizers had invited him to the show. Some people booed and one person told me to shut up. I let the room know that I have been raped, and cursed at the monster I wasnt making eye contact with. The next day my world blew up when a video I had posted went viral.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/opinion/kelly-bachman-comedian-weinstein.amp.html
I learned about these things because people were able to review them publicly. A NDA is his right but it comes across as a cowardlymove.jokex
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Refund last minute isnt good enough
Read below
For me its the false sale and if disclosed at purchase I would be ok because hey people pay to be kept locked in a room they maybe cant get out of nowadays so whatever they want to purchase if no harm .But last minute NDA?
That comes from Consequence Of Sound, which says Davidson has apparently been doing this since early November, and audience members at a show last week were only notified about the NDA a few hours before the performance. One woman actually posted the agreement on Facebook, revealing that it says audience members cannot give any interviews, offer any opinions or critiques, or otherwise participate by any means or in any form whatsoever [on any existing or future social network] in the disclosure of any Confidential information. It also promises a full refund to anyone who refuses to sign the agreement, but if you breach the NDA, you will be asked to pay upon demand, as liquidated damages, the sum of one million dollars, plus any out of pocket expense.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)so they wouldn't spoil it or take secret recordings and infringe on his right to make a living.
I like the NDA angle as well. Prob not airtight in court, but it might slow down an asshole before ruining the experience for others.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)-- or more specifically, lack one one -- an injury that occurred when as a Navy SEAL he was injured by an IED in Afghanistan.
During Davidson's soliloquy, Rep. Crenshaw appeared on the Weekend Update set to accept the apology and get in a few digs of his own, ending with his phone's ringtone, which was an Ariana Grande song. The singer had just broken up with Davidson.
The contrast between the hero and the clown was striking.
Clearly I'm not a fan of Pete Davidson.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)Crenshaw lost his eye in Afghanistan. Pete lost his firefighter father in the WTC on 9/11. One's loss is worse is what you are supposing? Did you watch the original comment on SNL for context and the subsequent actual apology?
Pete crossed the line one week, and brought Crenshaw on SNL to apologize. Both came out of the scenario with honor.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)He was going down a list, making fun of candidates based on how they looked, which is fair, I guess. For example, Colbert does it whenever he puts up a head shot. In this case, when Crenshaw's image popped up Davidson said, "This guy's kinda cool. Dan Crenshaw." Michael Che: "Come on, man...hold on!" Davidson: "You may be surprised to hear he's a congressional candidate from Texas, and not a hit man in a porno movie. (audience laughs) I'm sorry, I know he lost his eye in war or whatever." (smirks while audience laughs harder) Then he moved on to the next person.
I think if he had stopped at "porno movie" he wouldn't have gotten into trouble. It was making light of Crenshaw's service-connected injury where he moved into bad taste. Humor often lives on the edge, however, and you don't find the line unless you push on it.
Had I seen it live, I wouldn't have given it a moment's thought, and Crenshaw didn't have any problem with it, as shown by his subsequent appearance on SNL, which I did see. I think the suits at NBC got a little shaken by the brouhaha the RW sound machine was making, however, hence the apology.
The first time I saw an apology on SNL was in its second year. They had run a film clip of skiers falling, each followed by the sports announcer saying, "Oops! He's been accidentally shot by Claudine Longet!" (This was after she claimed it was an accident that she had shot and killed her boyfriend, an Olympic skier.) The following week a very young and tense Loren Michaels carefully read a statement of apology that was clearly written by NBC's legal department.
Like I said, sometimes it's hard to know where the line is between funny and bad taste.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)I appreciate the fact you went and rewatched. It wasn't my intention to give you a homework assignment. But, I'm glad you did and shared your insight. You made me think about the situation more. This is why I love DU.
Comedians are having a hard time these days figuring out how to approach the line and not cross it. I think of Kathy Griffin who was vilified for posing in a picture holding Donald Trump's severed head in a magazine photo. Bad taste, but I also think there were so many people involved in the production and publication of that picture... I wonder why someone didn't press "pause" and say, "Hey is a good idea really?"
I still love Pete Davidson, though... He always makes me laugh and I cannot believe he dated Ariana Grande. She was one of SNL's best hosts, and when she first met him in a writers' room meeting... She left the meeting and immediately said to her assistant, "I'm going to marry Pete Davidson one day." There is something about him.
GanjaGrower
(83 posts)But signing an NDA? Nope. Id be demanding a refund and leaving.