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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:45 PM Jun 2020

Quitting smoking - question about the patch. Day 67

Okay so today is day 67 without a smoke.
I wore my last patch on Tuesday.
I still have one in reserve.

Today I’m a fidgety mess. Light headed. Anxious. You name it. I had gotten to the 7 MG patch step 3. I didn’t expect there to still be this level of withdrawal.

Is this normal?

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Quitting smoking - question about the patch. Day 67 (Original Post) underpants Jun 2020 OP
Yes. It's still nicotine and it still has to come out of your system. But you Squinch Jun 2020 #1
Thanks underpants Jun 2020 #2
I know this will sound a little crazy iwillalwayswonderwhy Jun 2020 #3
That sounds a lot crazy underpants Jun 2020 #5
Take a look at your fingernails Clearly fogged in Jun 2020 #4
Nicorette gum is helpful when you get a nicotine crave going.... magicarpet Jun 2020 #6
Thanks. I think I'm going to ride this out. underpants Jun 2020 #7
My story....for what its worth... Moostache Jun 2020 #8
I quit cold turkey 40+ years ago. The biggest thing that got me through was deep breaths rurallib Jun 2020 #9

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
1. Yes. It's still nicotine and it still has to come out of your system. But you
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jun 2020

are 67 days in! Congratulations!

Hang in there. You only have to go through this once, and then it's done. And it only lasts a short time. In a week, this will be long over.

iwillalwayswonderwhy

(2,602 posts)
3. I know this will sound a little crazy
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jun 2020

But I wore a plain square bandaid. When I felt fidgety, I would like lightly rub the bandaid. Got me over the hump.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
5. That sounds a lot crazy
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jun 2020

Just kidding. Thanks.

I do have a double eraser (on one end) pencil I have carried constantly. Kept it 20 years just for this. My wife recommended eating fruit and drinking cherry juice. It works.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
4. Take a look at your fingernails
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jun 2020

I'm not sure if this works with using the patch, but it does if you stop smoking. Look for a difference in the color of your fingernails. The new growth will not be stained and end half of your nails will be noticeably darker. Rotate your hand in the light if you don't see it right away. I hope you can see it.

Keep up the fight.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
6. Nicorette gum is helpful when you get a nicotine crave going....
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

When the crave happens pop in a piece of gum. Be aware that it is not chewing gum but a tool to get you past the craving period.

Take an empty pill vial. When you need the Nicorette gum for a craving be aware when the craving has been satisfied and spit the gum into the vial. The point is to drop the level of nicotine in you blood stream and thus break the dependency. If you use the gum and the craving has subsided immediately spit the gum into the vial and save the gum for next time a craving sneaks up.

Also be aware the gum in the vial will wear out and offer little nicotine,... so toss and switch over to a new piece of gum. Remember is the craving subsides get the gum out of your mouth so you do not needlessly boost the level of nicotine in your blood.

It also may help in some craving incidents to take a large paper clip, or a two inch piece of a plastic straw, or a plastic spoon. During a nicotine craving pop one of the above in your mouth and roll it around and bite on it lightly. The point is to give yourself oral gratification similar to having a cigarette in your mouth and also a low calorie distraction that offers a diversion from a nicotine craving.

If you are prone to choking easily small items in the mouth might not be your cup of tea,.... a plastic spoon might be your best bet.

https://www.nicorette.com/products/nicorette-gum.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrIf3BRD1ARIsAMuugNs-Fx76AuZ43M5bygke2tHVRA9p_FVnir38yhOc6eVTMsw-yZm2UaQaAivqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

underpants

(182,829 posts)
7. Thanks. I think I'm going to ride this out.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jun 2020

The 2MG gum sounds like a good idea but the sooner I just stop using the better. If it continues to be really bad (actually it’s sort of a high) maybe I’ll get the gum.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
8. My story....for what its worth...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jun 2020

I quit smoking on May 6th, 2008.

The reason I know the exact date this many years later is that my quitting was directly tied into my baby sister's wedding. My entire family traveled out of state to attend the wedding, and when we left our home to return to my parent's home for the festivities, on April 29th, I left a half-eaten bowl of Lobster Bisque in the fridge...

When we returned to our home on May 4th, after getting the kids to sleep, unpacking the car and trying to settle in after an eventful week and weekend, I ate that now week+ old bowl of bisque. By 2 AM on the 5th, I was awake and vomiting. By 4 AM I was dry heaving every 3-4 minutes and felt like I had cracked a rib from the violent heaves that would not stop. By 6 AM I was in the ER and by 8 AM I had a CAT-scan done to see if there was any intestinal damage that would explain the vicious response my body was going through. Eventually, after an IV-fluid bag and with some anti-nausea medicine and Vicodin, I was sent home and told to return if I got worse.

I did not get worse, in fact by 6 PM that night I was able to hold down some broth and by the next morning, despite being weak and sore, I felt pretty much OK, no more vomiting or heaving...until I got a call from the ER X-ray technician requesting that I come back for a consult on the film they took of me the previous day. So at 3 PM that day, my wife and I returned to the ER X-ray technician's tiny little office and I was informed that they felt I should have an immediate follow-up appointment with an internist to examine a spot that was found on my kidney and looks to be a possible tumor.

Over the next 3 weeks, I received 2 additional scans and opinions and was scheduled for kidney ablation surgery for renal small cell carcinoma with possible spread. I ended up losing 33% of my right kidney, but the ablation was concluded with good margin (no spread) and the tumor that was removed was 100% encapsulated (no metastasis). I was lucky, that kind of cancer is widely believed to be caused by smoking as the blood is filtered through the kidneys and the carcinogens in cigarette smoke can become concentration in the kidneys and lead to cancerous growths. Those growths are nearly ALWAYS asymptomatic and when they are found, it is usually because they have spread to other organs and areas that ARE symptomatic. Many people believe that cigarette smoking is only going to kill them through lung cancer, the truth is many people do die of lung cancer, but many times that lung cancer is spread from the kidneys to the lungs or from other sites. The point being, without an accidental food poisoning after my sister's wedding, I would have NEVER quit smoking on my own.

I lacked the "why", the reason to quit, the driving force that said to me (and ONLY to me, from me) "if you do not change this behavior, you will die"... A cancer scare at 37, with 5 kids under the age of 12 at the time and a wife who had just gotten nack to working after out last child was immensely sobering to me...that motivated me...but I STILL needed help with the physical nicotine addiction.

I used the nicotine lozenges and Tic Tac's for the immediate 2 weeks after I quit cold turkey. I also immediately stopped my social activities at the time - which took me out of all bars and nightclubs and made me give up on pool playing as well. I knew that I had no choice but to no longer do those things because the temptation and the habit of smoking in those settings, especially in bars and pool houses, would be too great. It was the combination of these things that helped me. The physical cravings were controlled well enough in my first 8 weeks that I stopped the lozenges entirely. I began weening off of them by increasing the number of Tic Tacs that I would consume, but it worked for me. The psychological addiction took YEARS to subsist, and to be honest, its never really gone away entirely...I have caught myself even now, 12+ years out from my last smoke...thinking about having "just one".

It also came with another side effect though...over-eating and weight gain....not all at once, but quietly and persistently at about 4-5 pounds a year to the point I am now 60 pounds over what I considered a comfortable weight (which truth be told was STILL probably 20 MORE over where I should be). I have not been anywhere near as successful with regaining fitness or losing weight as I was with quitting smoking, so sometimes it is timing, motivation, self-change and support that helps and other times it is something else.

I congratulate you on making as far as you have and I hope you stay with it. Its hard and there will be times that it will seem overwhelming, when it does, I hope you have a support mechanism (and not food!) that helps you cope and survive the storm. I have heard the saying "This too shall pass" and often thought in moments of weakened resolve that it was total BS...I have since learned to accept that it is really only about 50% BS and 50% a challenge to dig deep one more time to avoid temptation or falling back. For me, I replaced one addiction and associated behaviors relatively successfully and one not so much to date.

I wish you a better success rate and a happy, healthy outcome!

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
9. I quit cold turkey 40+ years ago. The biggest thing that got me through was deep breaths
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jun 2020

I heard this on a radio show and it worked.
When you get a craving it is not the nicotine you miss so much as it is the deep breaths. The only time a smoker breathes deeply is when he is smoking.

So when you get a craving take 10 deep breathes. It will do wonders.

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