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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:33 PM Aug 2020

***TRUE FACTS***...Believe It Or Not...

...my thanks to the late George Carlin and Robert Anton Wilson, as guiding spirits behind this little jape. And for what it's worth...a deceased relative of mine, who worked as a spook for one of our "intelligence" agencies, once solemnly assured me that a particularly outlandish "true fact" listed here was indeed actually true--and no, I shan't say which one...

--Thomas E Dewey, exactly as all the polls said, was in reality elected President of the United States in 1948 in a landslide and served a full four-year term. However, his administration was such a disaster that the decision was made to expunge it from our national memory. As a result, all newspapers, magazines, books, movies, etc were altered to create the so-called Second Truman Administration. A conspiracy of silence was set up and maintained, so that no one ever so much as spoke about the actual events of 1949-53--a conspiracy that has lasted to this day. Every American over the age of 75 is well aware of all this, but no one ever mentions it.

--The craft that crashed at Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947 was not an alien spacecraft, or a weather balloon, or a Mogul balloon, or a piece of secret Nazi technology. It was, in fact, none other than Howard Hughes' Spruce Goose, aka the Hercules, out on a spin. The "alien bodies" were actually Munchkins from the Wizard of Oz, who were getting a joyride as a favor to Judy Garland, whom Hughes was trying to lay. The story of the cover-up was long and complex, and led directly, among other things, to the Watergate break-in of 1972.

--Bobby Darin and Lee Harvey Oswald were identical twins.

--If you hold a guinea pig by the tail, its eyes will drop out.

--Stonehenge was actually built by Paramount Studios in 1923 for a historical epic that never got made. All "evidence" of its existence before that has been faked.

--Stan Laurel was Clint Eastwood's real father.

--Joe DiMaggio was the mastermind of the JFK assassination.

--Lou Gehrig, James Dean, Carol Lombard, Dylan Thomas, Michael Jackson, Janis Joplin, George Reeves, Stanford White, Charlie Parker, John Keats, Lord Byron, and Oscar Wilde all faked their deaths.

--In Byron's case, he moved to upstate New York and became a farmer. In the years following his "death" in Greece in 1824, he, and not Abner Doubleday, actually invented baseball in Cooperstown in 1839, wrote the complete works of "Edgar Allen Poe", and died at Harper's Ferry in John Brown's raid in 1859.

--The Apollo missions were not faked. There were, however, two secret Apollo missions after the last "official" one in 1972.

--The Universe is in reality only about twenty light-years in diameter. The "red shift" is a prank invented by some drunk astronomers in the 1920s.

--Adolf Hitler did not spend 1924 in Landesburg Prison as a result of the Beer Hall Putsch. In reality, he was exiled from Germany for a year, and went to Hollywood to try to capitalize on his relative notoriety to become an actor. His rants about the Jews did not help him in that particular environment, however, and his career did not prosper. However, he did get some extra work, and can be seen quite clearly in the crowd during a scene in the 1925 Ben Hur. Meanwhile Herman Hesse actually wrote *Mein Kampf* as a satire on fascism, and when Hitler grew disillusioned with Hollywood and returned to Germany to resume leadership of the Nazi movement, cynically adopted the "satire" as his own work.

---The atomic bomb never worked. The entire nuclear arms race has been a hoax, maintained by all nations concerned as a way to get money for military black projects. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were actually destroyed by earthquakes, carefully arranged by US troops to look like "atomic bombings" immediately after the Japanese surrender.

--Actress Shelley Winters and actor Alan Hale, Jr, were the same person.

--The Tunguska Explosion of 1908 was a secret experiment of Nicola Tesla gone wrong.

--Robert A Heinlein, the legendary science fiction writer, actually wrote all the stories credited to "Thomas Disch". It amused Heinlein to write in a style so ostensibly different from his own familiar one, and he became the guiding force behind the "New Wave" Sf of the 1960s and 70s, just as he was the guiding force behind "Modern" science fiction in the 1940s. This even went as far as criticism, written by "Disch", attacking Heinlein--that is, himself!

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***TRUE FACTS***...Believe It Or Not... (Original Post) First Speaker Aug 2020 OP
The Jesus Factor PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #1
That's where I got it from... First Speaker Aug 2020 #4
Aha! I had thought it was too much of a coincidence PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #7
I'm betting the one about the Apollo missions is the real deal Bayard Aug 2020 #2
*cough, wheeze, ahem...* First Speaker Aug 2020 #5
Wow, just wow. In_The_Wind Aug 2020 #3
I know the Stonehenge stuff is wrong Tyrs WolfDaemon Aug 2020 #6
The guinea pig one is true JustGene Aug 2020 #8

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
1. The Jesus Factor
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 12:12 AM
Aug 2020

by Edwin Corley has as its premise that the atom bomb didn't actually work, but a kind of cover-up happened, including seeding the bomb site with radioactive materials. I recall it as being quite good.

Some years later I read another book in which there was a passing reference to "Corleyites", people who did not believe the atomic bomb actually worked.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
4. That's where I got it from...
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 01:07 AM
Aug 2020

...it's a terrific thriller. Just plausible enough, in context...I didn't know that there were people who really believed it...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
7. Aha! I had thought it was too much of a coincidence
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:40 AM
Aug 2020

for you to have simply made it up.

The reference to Corleyites in the later novel is purely a fictional one. But it was a nice, random reference.

Back in 1945 conspiracy theory as we have grown to know and love it, simply didn't exist. Otherwise there really would be a significant number of people out there who would believe the atom bomb didn't work.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
6. I know the Stonehenge stuff is wrong
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:46 AM
Aug 2020

I built Stonehenge in order to impress a date.


Unfortunately it didn't work out.

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