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How do I allow an electrician into my home and be most safe from covid? (Original Post) Grasswire2 Nov 2020 OP
Assume you've checked the breaker box? DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #1
yes. Nothing's tripped. Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #3
I actually had the same thing happen DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #6
Other thoughts that came to mind DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #7
Insisting that he wear a mask is a good start. He may already plan to do that. Marie Marie Nov 2020 #2
He wears a mask, you do too, open some windows and go outside The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #4
The danger of a fire from defective wiring is probably higher than the risk of COVID, Liberty Belle Nov 2020 #5
Everyone wears a mask. beachbumbob Nov 2020 #8
Well it's a long shot but do you have any GFI outlets or GFI breakers? CentralMass Nov 2020 #9
yeah, I know... Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #11
Understood. Is there one behind the refrigerator? CentralMass Nov 2020 #14
I'm not sure I can get the fridge out. Ha. Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #15
I suspect you are right. I saw this GFI issue at my ex-Mil's place. CentralMass Nov 2020 #17
Can you get a union electrician? SheltieLover Nov 2020 #10
Yikes, and that is my fear. Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #12
What we've done... Lars39 Nov 2020 #13
oh, it will be cool.. Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #16
I had a plumber and various contractors in... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #18

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
3. yes. Nothing's tripped.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:07 AM
Nov 2020

unfortunately, when this place was remodeled, the landlord's son did the work -- and the workmanship is not excellent. They offered to send him back to find the problem, but I asked for an electrician. Also, the TV and cable outlets blew. I ran power to them via an orange cord, but just get static. So I may need Comcast to come in here as well. Ugh.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
6. I actually had the same thing happen
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:16 AM
Nov 2020

The Xfinity/Comcast box kept going out. I called Comcast out and they couldn't figure it out. Then I called an electrician, and it was a quick fix to replace a circuit breaker in the panel. That was why the Comcast box kept going out.

I agree with the suggestions here: open windows/doors as much as you can when the technician is there. Obviously, everyone, including the tech, wears a mask covering nose and mouth. If you have a can of Lysol, spray the place after the tech leaves. When selecting the electrician/tech, ask about what kind of precautions they are taking.

We've had a few techs/repair folks here during the pandemic. Hopefully, all will be ok.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
7. Other thoughts that came to mind
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:26 AM
Nov 2020

If it's possible, shut off any kind of HVAC unit that you have while the tech is at your place. It may be too cold to do so, but, if you can, I would avoid anything that could circulate too much air in your home while the tech is there and for at least some period of time after they depart.

Also, if you have an air purifier, I would put that near where you think the tech will work.

To avoid having multiple visits by techs, speak to Comcast to see if they can troubleshoot you by phone using another outlet. I actually have found Comcast tech service folks to be pretty decent on the phone (and great in person).

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
2. Insisting that he wear a mask is a good start. He may already plan to do that.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:03 AM
Nov 2020

Ask the company about their Covid safety policies before you hire them.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
4. He wears a mask, you do too, open some windows and go outside
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:07 AM
Nov 2020

while he’s working. Wait a bit after he leaves to go back inside, then disinfect surfaces.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
5. The danger of a fire from defective wiring is probably higher than the risk of COVID,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:14 AM
Nov 2020

provided you both wear a mask. As #4 noted here, also open windows and disinfect after the electrician leaves.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
9. Well it's a long shot but do you have any GFI outlets or GFI breakers?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:23 AM
Nov 2020

If so check if they have tripped and if so reset them.

These are the outlets that have two buttons typically in the middle. GFI breakers would likely a red or yellow button.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
11. yeah, I know...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

The one in the bathroom was tripped, and we reset. We have looked for another one everywhere, because there should be one in the kitchen. Nope. None.

The remodeling was done by someone who is not an electrician, the son of the landlord. I have asked for an electrician to fix this.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
15. I'm not sure I can get the fridge out. Ha.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:23 PM
Nov 2020

Guess I'd better clean off the top of it where I store plastic bags.

But the refrigerator works! Wouldn't it not be working if the outlet behind it was not?

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
17. I suspect you are right. I saw this GFI issue at my ex-Mil's place.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

The wiring in the house must have been done by 3-Stooges electrical. She lost power on one circuit in the kitchen. I tracked it to an outdoor outlet with a GFI.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
10. Can you get a union electrician?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:36 AM
Nov 2020

Not only will s/he actually know what they are doing & find/fix the problem quickly, but union might have rules about masks for everyone's safety.

My guess is that the problem could well be a neutral issue, which likely would be found in the meter box or breaker box, hopefully outside or in the garage. (?)

Have had similar issues in nearly every apartment & home I rented in the south - non union states. Not sure what it is, but non union "electricians" do not seem to grasp the concept & importance of correct wiring.

Very, very common for flames to shoot out of light switches & outlets, among other nightmare scenarios. I could literally write a horror novel about issues I've experienced like this.

If it is a neutral wiring problem, it shouldn't take a qualified union electrician but a few minutes to diagnose & tighten down. If it is a neutral issue, electrician will likely find & fix at meter box or breaker box, so exposure could be minimal.

They daisy chain everything together, rather than running separate circuits, to save $ on wiring, without a care in the world as to the nightmares this causes. And they brag about this.

I was beyond thrilled to purchase a home, which we IMMEDIATELY and correctly rewired with a thick gauge, copper wire for the reasons stated. We also changed out every light switch & outlet to "commercial" grade. The kind where the installer actually screws down the end of the wire in the outlet or switch box. These days, "backslashing" is the quickest & cheapest type, so that's the kind they use. (Installer only has to push wire through a small area with a sharp edge & that is supposed to cut the insulation & make contact for flow.)

I would go to lowes or home depot (not a fan of the latter) & purchase 2 outlets of the commercial grade & have electrician swap them out.

You can also call your local IBEW office & ask for names of contractors that do residential work who use union electricians. I've done this!

You might mention to electrician that you suspect a possible neutral problem so s/he goes straight to meter box & breaker box. A neutral problem would explain the apparent systemic nature of the problem.

It is also possible that a spike in juice, perhaps from neutral problem, might have fried wiring the attic or walls, so please remain vigilant. And ask electrician to test for this.

If it is a neutral problem, this is an *extremely* dangerous situation! Please make sure smoke detector alarm batteries are fresh!

There are tons of videos on you tube showing the effects of neutral wiring issues.

Please keep us updated!

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
12. Yikes, and that is my fear.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:34 PM
Nov 2020

Whatever happened did not trip the particular circuit breaker. That scares me.

The house is a hundred years old. The breaker box is in the lowest floor laundry room, just adjacent to the bedroom of this apartment.

Not only did whatever happened not trip the circuit breaker, but also the power to the garage (which is not part of the house structure itself) has been out for several months and they have not been able to ascertain why. The garage circuit is on this same breaker box.

Oy.

I'm going to press for a union electrician to come today.

Thank you so much for this info.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
13. What we've done...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

we turned off the heat and air unit, and did the "cool down the whole house" trick where you put a fan in a window facing out and have another window open opposite that if you can. The fan will take the bad air out. Masked worn, of course. We kept that set up running a bit after he was gone, too.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
18. I had a plumber and various contractors in...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:52 PM
Nov 2020

... my apartment for days over the Summer, after an underground water pipe broke under the foundation of my unit.

I asked all of them to wear masks, but I KNOW that didn't last!

I also put up two plastic barriers with painter's tape on each side of their main work areas, with zippers to basically turn them into doorways.

I stayed in my bedroom as they were inside. It was hot outside, so I could endure turning off the A/C and covering my floor vent too. Then I kept my bedroom window open a crack.

Since the toilet was temporarily removed during their work, I turned a 5-gallon pet food bucket (with a tight lid) that was lined with small trash bags into my new toilet in the bedroom. A foldable bedside commode chair was placed over it, and I had odor-killing cat litter in there too. And a water jug to hold any urine.

Then I wore an N100 mask after they left and cleaned/sanitized their work areas hours later each time. It went on like that for days.

I feel your pain!

Edit: Just do whatever you can to limit their spread of aerosols, and then try to sanitize and air out the place later.

Edit2: Some of my prep-items below, although I doubt that you'll need the toiletry stuff. (Lol.)











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