Seriously, why are they already rebooting the Spiderman series

[LynneSin]

I understand this 'I'll do 3 episodes and I'm done' mentality but geez, can you give it a decade before rebooting it again?

I have about as much desire to see this new spiderman movie (which isn't exactly getting rave reviews) as I have watching a wart being removed from a foot.

[arcane1]

1. Inter-studio bullshit, that's why

Sony has the rights to Spider-Man, but only for as long as they keep making movies. Otherwise, Marvel gets the rights back. Thus, Sony is rebooting it in order to keep possession of it.

So I've heard, anyway.

[CBGLuthier]

7. That may be true, there is a real POS version of The Fantastic Four for those reasons

Not the slightly better version that was in the theater but a complete low budget POS made just to retain rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fantastic_Four_(film)


The company that had it made went on to make the other two higher budget FF films.

[ohiosmith]

2. Which foot?

[HopeHoops]

3. I just found that out today. No clue.

[CBGLuthier]

4. Mr Grey and Ms. Minnelli know

[HappyMe]

5. I'm pretty burned out on all the

endless super hero movies. Enough already!

[Baitball Blogger]

6. It is confusing. And more confusing is why two of the most marketable & talented actors

of their generation would take these roles: Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield.

I guess, in the end, it's about money. Some of the reviews seem to have capitalized on the chemistry between the two actors who are an item off screen. However, I burned out after the last Spiderman. The formula was too repetitive. Never saw Spiderman 3.

[bluedigger]

15. You're kidding, right?

Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield...


Who?

[Baitball Blogger]

17. They're both incredibly gifted actors.

I'm guessing they did this super hero movie to get exposure from the masses.

[bluedigger]

19. I'll take your word for it.

But "the most marketable & talented actors of their generation"? Shouldn't I have at least heard of them?

I don't live in a cave, FTR.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. You probably have heard of them.

Emma Stone was in Easy A and The Help. I've seen her on the talk circuits and she is incredibly witty and vivacious. She and Jennifer Lawrence will be in the same playing field before long. It will just require that Emma Stone take on more dramatic roles. Her comedic timing is incredible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Stone


Andrew Garfield had a scene stealer performance in Social Network as Eisenberg's best friend. (The one the Facebook guy screwed over) He also had a lead role in "Never Let Me Go." Didn't care for the movie, but his acting was one of the bright spots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield

[bluedigger]

22. OK, maybe I do live in a cave.

Haven't seen any of those. Jennifer Lawrence ?

What's new with the Rat Pack, anyways? I haven't heard anything about them in what seems like ages...

[Baitball Blogger]

23. The original Rat Pack? Or the ST. Elmo's Fire ratpack?

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Demi Moore turned 40 and is having a midlife crisis.

Judd Nelson got swallowed up by his nostrils.

Molly Ringwald became a mom and has cameo appearances every now and then.

[bluedigger]

24. Either one, lol.

Now you kids get off my lawn! My gruel is cold! When does Matlock come on?

[antigone382]

26. In the great beyond, this morning. n/t

[WorseBeforeBetter]

37. I'll Netflix it... just for his hair.

I had no idea who he was while watching "The Social Network," but had a feeling he was going to be *big*.

[Baitball Blogger]

40. I think Spiderman will help to cement him in everyone's radar.

I think that's why these two actors took the job.

[MicaelS]

8. The sucess of Batman Begins (a reboot) in 2005

And The Dark Knight (2008), and Star Trek (2009) has put Hollywood into a reboot frenzy.

The first two films in a series films are usually great but the later sequels tend to suck.

The first Batman (1989) was very good, Batman Returns was good, but Batman Forever and Batman & Robin sucked.

Superman The Movie was great, Superman II was great, but Superman III and Superman IV sucked, and Superman Returns was only so-so.

Star Trek ran out of steam after First Contact (#8). Insurrection (#9) and Nemesis (#10) both sucked.

Let's face it, there's only so many times you can have the superhero save the world from a super powered villain before you start to run out of them. Plus the writers tend to write themselves into corners they have a hard time getting out of.

So the easiest answer is a reboot, and you get some hot, young actor at a cheaper price. I heard Tobey Maguire wanted too much money after Spiderman 3.

[LynneSin]

14. The Dark Knight was a sequel not a reboot

Reboot is when they start at the very beginning and recreate the story with the existence of any storyline from previous series made null & void.

[MicaelS]

18. I undertand that,

I'm making the point that the Batman Begins and the The Dark Knight were both very good films and did well at at the box office. If The Dark Knight had done poorly they may not have made The Dark Knight Rises, and they may have thought about another reboot.

[mythology]

29. You give Batman and Robin/Batman Forever far too much credit

Sucking doesn't even begin to describe how horrid those were.

[MicaelS]

30. OK, fine...

They were singularities transferred to film, how's that?

[7wo7rees]

35. Well they did have nice nipples and codpieces

[Broken_Hero]

39. Jesus...

and here I brainwashed myself into forgetting this movie...thanks for the reminder!

[Iggo]

9. $$$$$

[Capn Sunshine]

10. where can I watch this wart foot thingie?

That sounds absoultely fascinating.
Spider mann no so much

Disclaimer: I am among a unique set of beings on this planet who has not seen "Spiderman" nor any of its sequels.

[hifiguy]

11. The original, with Tobey Maguire, was excellent

and, apart from the lack of Gwen Stacy, dead-on true to the comics. There is no reason whatsoever to re-boot this from scratch. As the local film reviewer noted, they don't replay James Bond's origin every time the actor changes. We all KNOW who Spidey is and how he got his powers. He's the single most popular comic-book hero of the last 50 years, for dog's sake.

[bluedigger]

16. Now you've hurt Superman's feelings.

Personally, I'd put Superman and Batman both ahead of Spidey.

[NewJeffCT]

33. Superman & Batman also predate Spidey

Both Superman & Batman came out of the 1930s. Spidey came out in the early 60s, which is why he's the most popular from the last 50 years.

[bluedigger]

34. I didn't understand the parameters.

[Blue_Tires]

12. 1. $$$$

2. Hollywood always trends towards intellectual laziness for the big-budget stuff...When the studio writers paint themselves in a corner after the second or third sequel, just reboot! It's easy and you don't even have to come up with any new source material! Just take the canon story everyone knows and loves and put as much fluff and special effects as you can...

[Liberal Veteran]

13. I'm hoping they remake Avatar...it is soooo dated.

[Bucky]

21. I think the next superhero movie should be SuperJesus

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=super%20jesus

uper Jesus was formed in 5 A.D. when he conquered the Romans, and ate their souls to gain their power. Super Jesus has the extreme power of 100 Jesus' put together and has abs that you can break walnuts over. He has been known to hold a bigass hammer and is often smiting anything in his path. He is also the father of Captain Planet and Super Man.

[YankeyMCC]

25. Avenger tie in

And money of course.

But someone suggested to me, and I think he just might be on to something, that since in later comics Spiderman was at least a part time Avenger (full time? I don't know) they want to set up a Spiderman that fits into the new crop of Avenger movies.

[antigone382]

27. But Sony owns Spiderman and Marvel owns the Avengers...?

I mean, I realize that the power of money can trump all, but at the same time, I have to say that I've been happy with the Marvel superhero films that I've seen (only a handful, to be honest)...it seems that they are more concerned with delivering what longtime fans of the comics want, than with going for plots and character developments that might appeal to a wider audience. I'm not saying it's high art, by any means, but there's something to be said for remaining true to the story-lines and characters that your fanbase grew up with. I'd hate to see that muddied with someone else's involvement.

[avebury]

28. I never had any desire to see any of Toby Maguire's Spiderman movies but I

can't wait to see the new movie. Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone (with Sally Field and Martin Sheen) are a lot more appealing to me then Toby Maguire and Kristin Dunst.

[tanyev]

31. Thank goodness. I find Kirsten Dunst unwatchable.

[LynneSin]

32. I'm on the fence with her - I loved her in 'Marie Antoinette' and 'Melonchalia'

but Spiderman - Bleh!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

38. Agree. Jennifer Jason Leigh and...

Ally Sheedy are two others.

[Motown_Johnny]

36. People Love Spidey,

and they do this all the time.

Batman and Superman both had "reboots". It has been ten years since the last ones started. This isn't that big a deal.


The real problem is that they are quickly running through the best villains. Rhino, Mysterio and Shocker are a few that are left but they all pale in comparison to Dr. Octopus and the Goblins. Even Sandman and Venom are already gone.

I suppose since it is a reboot they can bring them back but that may just feel like a "been there done that" kinda thing.


This is like watching Batman without The Joker or Riddler or Catwoman or Penguin or..... well you get the idea.

[NewJeffCT]

41. True

but, the Michael Keaton/Tim Burton Batman movies featured The Joker, then the Christian Bale/Nolan Batman movies also had The Joker.

So, no reason why they can't do The Green Goblin or Doc Ock again.

[Baitball Blogger]

42. Review on Spiderman and Andrew Garfield.

The Amazing Andrew Garfield

t’s a shame this movie didn’t come first, really, because it is the better origin story, but, especially during the fight scenes, too much of it felt recycled.

HOWEVER.

Andrew Garfield is THE BEST Peter Parker EVER. He owns Peter Parker like RDJ owns Tony Stark. Comic book characters are built for reinvention—it’s their very nature given that these characters often survive for decades and are constantly re-imagined—so it’s hard to arrive at a definitive version. Like, we’ve yet to see the definitive Batman, despite Christian Bale doing a really great job. Of all the comic book characters we’ve seen in movies so far, the only ones I’d called “definitive”—so well realized and consistent that they overtake how you read the character in the comics—are RDJ as Tony Stark, Tom Hiddleston as Loki, and Heath Ledger as The Joker (props to Clark Gregg for making Agent Coulson feel like he came from the comics, when he did not). Well, add Andrew Garfield to the list. Because he owns the sh*t out of Peter Parker.

Spider-Man has never been my favorite superhero. He’s a whiny little brat, a lot of the time. But with Garfield inhabiting the role so well, balancing Peter’s smart mouth with a sense of kid beat down by life, the first thing I did when I got home was dig out what Spider-Man comics I have and re-read them, with this new iteration of Peter in my head. Immediately I liked him a lot better, reading him in Garfield’s voice. Garfield’s Peter is sympathetic yet imperfect. The set up for his Uncle Ben’s death—the moment that drives him to become Spider-Man—is perfectly managed, with Garfield striking the right tone between petulant and heartbroken. And physically, he’s a great match for the character. Garfield was 27 when they shot the movie, but he looks every inch a high school student and his lanky build suits Spider-Man’s acrobatics better than stocky Tobey Maguire ever did.

I could gush forever about how amazing Garfield is in this movie. Before the movie, I was against a Spider-Man/Avengers crossover in one of the upcoming Avengers movies. After seeing it—I’m all for it. This Spider-Man could totally exist with those Avengers. Even if it’s just a cameo, I’d be down, where previously, I didn’t care at all. That’s how good Andrew Garfield is as Spider-Man. He made me care about a character I didn’t even like, and he made me care enough that I was immediately craving more.

http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/23997/Andrew-Garfield-is-the-best-Spider-Man

[Rob H.]

43. ^^I agree (mostly)

I've been a huge Spider-Man fan since I was a little kid, and Garfield is Peter Parker/Spider-Man. I saw it earlier today and liked it more than Raimi's first Spider-Man film. (I also think he and Emma Stone have much better chemistry than Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst did.)

I don't feel like the fight scenes were recycled, though--in those scenes he's much closer to the comic book incarnation, throwing punches and sarcastic taunts simultaneously and with equal enthusiasm.

[Baitball Blogger]

44. Thanks for the details.

I might give it a shot JUST because it's Garfield and Stone.

[ellie]

45. Thank you

I can't understand, didn't we just see all of this drama?