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Hey, can you ID this Updated version of this famous guy (Original Post) packman May 2021 OP
Andrew Jackson perhaps. Inkey May 2021 #1
Nope packman May 2021 #2
Is it George Washington? Irish_Dem May 2021 #3
Looks like George Washington. nt Buckeye_Democrat May 2021 #4
Yep, that's George packman May 2021 #5
Looks just like George Washington. Irish_Dem May 2021 #7
Wow. I'd vote for him. wnylib May 2021 #13
Looks a bit like the British actor, Charles Dance (played Tywin Lannister in Game of Thrones) hlthe2b May 2021 #6
I won the contest, what is my prize? Irish_Dem May 2021 #8
Sending you thoughts and prayers packman May 2021 #9
I'd rather have cash money. Irish_Dem May 2021 #10
GW, we have been looking at those eyes since we were children, not to mention the dollar bills. ShazamIam May 2021 #11
It was the mouth and nose that I saw right away. Irish_Dem May 2021 #12
Yeah, but I didn't recognize him without wnylib May 2021 #14
Next time, don't look at the clothes or hair, just look just at the face. Irish_Dem May 2021 #15
The mouth was the biggest clue. Irish_Dem May 2021 #16
You're right of course. I think I would not wnylib May 2021 #18
I didn't realize that Washington had strabismus. Irish_Dem May 2021 #19
The mislignment does not appear wnylib May 2021 #26
OMG that is hilarious. And how neat that your area is a part of American history. Irish_Dem May 2021 #27
Long before our grade school class wnylib May 2021 #28
That is so cool. Would be great to time travel to that spot. Irish_Dem May 2021 #31
But would we understand him? wnylib May 2021 #33
Good point. I guess that would be the fun part. Irish_Dem May 2021 #34
So true about understanding another wnylib May 2021 #35
I love this example. Irish_Dem May 2021 #36
I have always had an aptitude for language learning, wnylib May 2021 #37
You also have an aptitude for non-verbal language and context. Irish_Dem May 2021 #38
Most of the time I am not consciously wnylib May 2021 #40
That is a gift. Irish_Dem May 2021 #42
I think that practice has just made it second nature. wnylib May 2021 #43
Yes, kind of like how I operate. Irish_Dem May 2021 #44
I read a long time ago Marthe48 May 2021 #30
That is very interesting. Irish_Dem May 2021 #32
Yup. 2naSalit May 2021 #24
This portrait is best match... Duppers May 2021 #41
It's the difference in hair styles. Hoyt May 2021 #17
Right we are used to seeing him with the hat and long powdered hair. Irish_Dem May 2021 #20
Kind of like him with modern hairstyle, but he looks like a GOPer salesman. Hoyt May 2021 #21
Yes I do to. He looks like a nice guy, not bad looking either. Irish_Dem May 2021 #22
GW! 2naSalit May 2021 #23
Looks like James Whitmore without they eyebrows. rickyhall May 2021 #25
I was thinking James Whitmore & Michael Douglas mashed up Generic Brad May 2021 #39
Knew him right away Marthe48 May 2021 #29

hlthe2b

(102,272 posts)
6. Looks a bit like the British actor, Charles Dance (played Tywin Lannister in Game of Thrones)
Sun May 2, 2021, 09:37 PM
May 2021
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Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
15. Next time, don't look at the clothes or hair, just look just at the face.
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:18 PM
May 2021

All the externals are confusing.
Look at the facial structure.
Eye, nose, mouth.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
18. You're right of course. I think I would not
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:27 PM
May 2021

make a good crime witness.

The eyes remind me of Robert Mueller.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
19. I didn't realize that Washington had strabismus.
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:30 PM
May 2021

Misaligned eyes. That threw me for a couple of minutes.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
26. The mislignment does not appear
Mon May 3, 2021, 01:22 AM
May 2021

to be very pronounced. They didn't have prism spectacles back then so I wonder how he could focus well enough to lead soldiers in the field and to shoot a musket.

A little side story about George. I grew up in the area of western PA that George was sent to on a mission to tell the French to get out, which set off the French and Indian wars. There were 3 French forts there - Fort Presque Isle (Erie), Fort Le Boeuf (Waterford), and Fort Duquesne (Pittsburgh). I am from Erie and my father was from Waterford, about 25 miles south of Erie.

Waterford is on low ground with a large creek running past it. There is also a small lake there. The soil is clay. Every spring, melting snow causes the lake to expand over its banks and flood the land around it. The creek also overflows some years. The whole area on the southern side just outside of Waterford turns into a boggy marsh. The skies are gray and cloudy in spring, with days at a time of slowly drizzling cold rain. Locals complain about it all the time.

I discovered that George did, too.

One day I killed time in the library waiting for a car repair by reading a publication of Washington's diary for the time that he was approaching Fort Le Boeuf/Waterford. He describes mile after mile of sloppy, slushy clay, cold rain, dystentery among the troops, horses getting stuck in the mud, and dismal gray skies with no sun. His tone sounds very discouraged.

Finally one entry, which I can't quote verbatim after all these years, but fairly close, calls it a damnable God forsaken land of little value that he could see. He asks why in God's name the British would even want such a land and says that he would abandon the mission if it were up to him, but that he had committed himself and his word as an officer to carry it through, so he would but that his men and horses must rest, even though there was no dry ground to rest upon.

He sounded so much like the grumbling locals there today that I cracked up laughing as I read this. But then I realized that he was a very young man at the time so his commitment and determination said a lot about his character and leadership ability in hard times, keeping up troop morale to see it through. He couldn't have known it then, but this experience was good training for Valley Forge in his future.

(The area is actually very pleasant once the spring flood season is over.)



Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
27. OMG that is hilarious. And how neat that your area is a part of American history.
Mon May 3, 2021, 08:11 AM
May 2021

He calls it God forsaken country. Like the locals.
Slushy clay has to be the worst.
I guess he should have come in the summer.

But yes you are exactly correct. Little did he know, but he was gaining valuable experience for when
he was a general in the revolutionary forces which faced incredible hardships. His character sounds like
it was forged early on, but he needed the experience as well.

And if it is the case he did not really see all that well, his record out in the field leading troops is even more
outstanding.

Thanks for sharing! Great story.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
28. Long before our grade school class
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:04 AM
May 2021

learned about Washington's trip to our area, I had learned about it from a statue of George next to the creek on the outskirts of Waterford. We drove past it often on our way to visit my father's relatives who lived there.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
31. That is so cool. Would be great to time travel to that spot.
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:29 PM
May 2021

And listen to Washington cuss out the weather and terrain.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
33. But would we understand him?
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:39 PM
May 2021

I'm guessing that he spoke in an accent that was a cross between American South and British English. But which British, since even today there are so many regional and class distinctions in British English?

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
34. Good point. I guess that would be the fun part.
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:41 PM
May 2021

But yes we may have no idea what the heck he saying.
But when someone is cussing up a storm, we usually get the drift no matter the language.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
35. So true about understanding another
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:58 PM
May 2021

language when people are cursing.

I went with my husband to some swimming classes that he was taking, since he had never learned to swim as a child. There was a couple there from India who we made friends with. They spoke English most of the time, but sometimes used Urdu with each other.

One day when they were speaking Urdu, the wife started speaking in an anxious, very animated tone. The husband used a softer but more determined tone. They argued and she got angry, waving her arms and then crosding them over her chest.

I told the husband that I agreed with his wife that it was too risky. They both asked how I knew what they were saying. I said it was obvious from the context and tones of their voices. He wanted to go to the 12 foot end of the pool and she felt that he was not yet a strong enough swimmer to get across it without being watched carefully. There were too many people in the class for the instructor to focus on just one person.

That was exactly what they had been arguing about.

I do not know a single word of Urdu.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
36. I love this example.
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM
May 2021

I am a retired clinical psychologist. And this is part of our training, to look at tone, non-verbals, etc.

But for you to go a few step beyond and identify the actual topic when you don't know the language is amazing.

You have very exceptional observational skills!

If I were still teaching, this would have been a really neat exercise for students.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
37. I have always had an aptitude for language learning,
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:29 PM
May 2021

but have only studied 3 languages. I think it came from childhood experiences. I grew up with Italian immigrants as neighbors and a German-born great aunt in our home. My aunt had two Hungarian friends who knew German.

Aunt Emma would sit on our front porch speaking German, although they all knew English. Our neighbors would get together in their yards speaking Italian. Since I didn't know either language, I learned to pick up cues from body language and the rhythm of their speech. That helped me later in learning languages. Isn't that how babies and children learn their native languages, from context and body language?

That situation with Urdu was not quite so mysterious as it sounds. The instructor had told the class previously that, as they improved, they would move into deeper water. The husband who spoke Urdu had already impressed me as someone who was achievement oriented and a risk taker.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
38. You also have an aptitude for non-verbal language and context.
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:35 PM
May 2021

Yes it all goes together in terms of human communication.

Again in terms of the Urdu communication you were able to add it all up, context, non-verbals, personality of speakers, as well as verbal.

You are also very observant and like to gathering data to from a conclusion.

wnylib

(21,456 posts)
40. Most of the time I am not consciously
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:38 AM
May 2021

aware that I am drawing conclusions from data collected by observation. I just do it. Later I can see what I did and how.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
44. Yes, kind of like how I operate.
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:37 PM
May 2021

After 40 years of being a therapist, I just notice things others don't.
Only now that I am now retired, I am off the meter, so don't have to do anything with it.

Marthe48

(16,958 posts)
30. I read a long time ago
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:20 AM
May 2021

That faces are not perfectly symmetrical. There was a theory that if you cover half a person's face at a time, you could see 2 natures of the person. I have tried it several times over the years, and it is interesting how different each half looks. Most of the time, I see kindness on one side, and acumen on the other.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
32. That is very interesting.
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:33 PM
May 2021

I have heard the there are two different looking sides to a face, but never heard of it connecting
to emotion or intellect.

The brain is divided into various parts with intellectual and emotive aspects of personality.
Maybe the face reflects that fact.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
39. I was thinking James Whitmore & Michael Douglas mashed up
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:35 PM
May 2021

I will never look at Washington the same way again.

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