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Seriously, Why is ZZTop in the Rock & Roll hall of fame (Original Post) LynneSin Jul 2012 OP
"Best beards" Scuba Jul 2012 #1
hey! Kali Jul 2012 #2
So did alot of bands NOT in the Rock & Roll hall of fame LynneSin Jul 2012 #3
I have no clue who is or isn't in the hall of fame Kali Jul 2012 #4
You could eliminate Eliminator and afterwards OriginalGeek Jul 2012 #5
You put ZZ Top in Delaware and it's George Thorogood and the Destroyers LynneSin Jul 2012 #6
One hit wonder? pscot Jul 2012 #7
George Thorogood has had many many many hits LynneSin Jul 2012 #11
No comparison really. bluesbassman Jul 2012 #20
Definitely the texas thing dropkickpa Jul 2012 #18
she won't do it keroro gunsou Jul 2012 #40
when she boogies... OriginalGeek Jul 2012 #44
Aren't you the person that likes Rush? hobbit709 Jul 2012 #8
Listen to pre-80's ZZ and you will understand. Throd Jul 2012 #9
+1 Orsino Jul 2012 #13
My zz top album/cd collection pokerfan Jul 2012 #15
For instance... cyberswede Jul 2012 #17
Smart marketing? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #10
Because everybody loves a sharp dressed man. bluedigger Jul 2012 #12
The synths, hot rods, and Playboy Playmate videos turned them into a cartoon Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #14
don't forget MTV Enrique Jul 2012 #22
That's what I meant by "Playboy Playmate videos"... Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #25
They took Rush's spot? KamaAina Jul 2012 #16
I love Rush and hope they never get enshrined in that shithole. There are far too many "artists" Bigleaf Jul 2012 #19
Haven't You Ever Heard.... HelenaHandbasket Jul 2012 #21
Welcome to DU and the Lounge! bluesbassman Jul 2012 #23
Thank You HelenaHandbasket Jul 2012 #27
Youo didn't have to love her screen name like you did OriginalGeek Jul 2012 #29
LOL. Well played! bluesbassman Jul 2012 #31
Best screen name ever! nolabear Jul 2012 #24
Thank You HelenaHandbasket Jul 2012 #26
Saw ZZTop in concert in the 70's DryHump Jul 2012 #28
Heart, Kiss, Rush, Yes, Little Feat, Deep Purple, Stevie Ray Vaughan.... OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #30
I think they belong in the HoF. The others you listed... Chan790 Jul 2012 #32
SRV should be a no-brainer, automatic inductee OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #37
I remember Stevie playing at the Rome Inn with his brother way back hobbit709 Jul 2012 #38
As much as I love a few of those acts redstateblues Jul 2021 #46
Here are a few reasons Tobin S. Jul 2012 #33
You haz MAD taste, Baby. nolabear Jul 2012 #43
Top coat, top hat... trixie Jul 2012 #34
Inclusion in the rock and roll hall of fame isn't exactly a high bar to pass Joe Shlabotnik Jul 2012 #35
they were better in the 70's lame54 Jul 2012 #36
Because I served the band dinner... WillParkinson Jul 2012 #39
Here's one of many reasons.... rppper Jul 2012 #41
I like ZZTop but Steve Miller should be there way before they go auburngrad82 Jul 2012 #42
LaGrange is a classic. Still sounds great redstateblues Jul 2021 #45

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
5. You could eliminate Eliminator and afterwards
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jul 2012

and I'd still support ZZ Top for RnR HoF.

That doesn't mean there aren't a ton of worthy bands not in there but I see no problem with ZZ being in. Their 70s electric blues stuff is straight up Rock.

Maybe it's a growing up in Texas thing.


I know a gal she lives on the hill....

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
6. You put ZZ Top in Delaware and it's George Thorogood and the Destroyers
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jul 2012

So why isn't George in there?

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
20. No comparison really.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jul 2012

First let me say that I love me some Thorogood (we even have a couple of his tunes in our setlist). However, George's music is pretty one dimensional, not that that is necessarily bad, as he's very good at what he does, but he has nowhere near the range that ZZ Top does.

Here's a couple of tunes that show Top's range IMO.


Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. +1
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jul 2012

Won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I dig their mutant, mescaline- and tequila-fueled blues rock. I also liked their eighties stuff, and won't begrudge them their massive success, but it's the old stuff that's most memorable.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
15. My zz top album/cd collection
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jul 2012

oddly omits the 80s...

Tres Hombres (1973)
Fandango (1975)
Tejas (1976)
Deguello (1979)
Greatest Hits (1992)

Loved their stuff but they became a little too glitzy/pop in the 80s.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
14. The synths, hot rods, and Playboy Playmate videos turned them into a cartoon
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jul 2012

The irony is that most of their more recent albums are a return to their more organic roots, but they still get viewed for SHIT like "Sleeping Bag."

They deserve to be in the R&R Hall of Fame for the same reason that bands like The Allman Brothers deserve it...in their early days they were a blues-based, American music band that stuck close to their roots.

Here's a song from the second album, "Rio Grande Mud" (1972) that is ALSO one of their BEST songs. It was never a "hit" like "La Grange," but I'd "enshrine" any band that produced music like this in a heartbeat.





Enrique

(27,461 posts)
22. don't forget MTV
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jul 2012

my first exposure to them was their 80's videos and I found them extremely annoying, but I liked them when I heard their older stuff.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
25. That's what I meant by "Playboy Playmate videos"...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jul 2012

...The "Legs" video, played to death on MTV along with "Sharp Dressed Man" and the rest, featured Playboy Playmates

Jeana Tomasino



and

Kymberly Herrin



 

Bigleaf

(2,050 posts)
19. I love Rush and hope they never get enshrined in that shithole. There are far too many "artists"
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:25 PM
Jul 2012

enshrined already who do not deserve to be there and just as many who have been snubbed. Jan Werner and his cronies at the RRHOF can kiss my ass.

HelenaHandbasket

(51 posts)
27. Thank You
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:37 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:19 PM - Edit history (1)

I thought for sure that name would be taken and it wasn't....yay!!!!! LOL

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
29. Youo didn't have to love her screen name like you did
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:09 PM
Jul 2012

but you did but you did



and she thaaaaaanks you...


DryHump

(199 posts)
28. Saw ZZTop in concert in the 70's
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jul 2012

...very, very stoned. Could not remember most of the concert until the next night, when I got stoned again. Great show, by the way - they shared a ticket with Alice Cooper!!!.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
30. Heart, Kiss, Rush, Yes, Little Feat, Deep Purple, Stevie Ray Vaughan....
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:09 PM
Jul 2012

These groups/performers are not in.

ZZ Top is.

Go figure?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
32. I think they belong in the HoF. The others you listed...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:26 PM
Jul 2012

Heart: Yes.
Kiss: No. Of all the "no" I can think of, this is the one I'd relent on, based solely on their popularity.
Rush: If Rush is ever seriously considered they should disband the Hall instead.
Yes: No.
Little Feat: Maybe.
Deep Purple: Yes.
SRV: Um, yes. I didn't know he wasn't in and I'm kind of put-off by his omission.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
37. SRV should be a no-brainer, automatic inductee
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jul 2012
Heart: There's no reasonable argument for keeping them out. They have 22.5 million in certifice album sales - comparable to inductees The Beach Boys and Jimi Hendrix. They had solid hits from the mid-70s well into the 80s, and are frequently heard on classic rock and adult contemporary radio.


KISS: Setting aside whether their music is any good, and also setting aside that Gene Simmons has been obnnoxious about the whole HoF issue, KISS belongs. They have a respectable 20 million in certified album sales, and they absolutely dominated pop culture from 1975-1979. They redefined the concert experience, and are among the most recognizable acts in rock music.

Rush: Rush and ZZ Top have something in common besides both names being drug culture references. Both have 25 million in certified album sales. What they don't have in common is that ZZ top has 2 "top 100" albums (Eliminator and Afterburner). Rush has none in the top 100. Just for comparison's sake, Heart has one album in the top 100; KISS has none; inductees Led Zeppelin have 8.

Little Feat: I think the induction of Little Feat would be more based on the company they kept and influenced, rather than album sales. Little Feat helped kick start the careers of inductee Bonnie Raitt, as well as Linda Ronstadt (not an inductee, but she should be). Members of Little Feat have played as individuals in the studio and on tour with other groups: Sam Clayton has appeared many times with Jimmy Buffett, and Bill Payne has toured and done studio work with inductee Bob Seger (most notably - he played the piano solo on "Against the Wind&quot . Their unique music continues to influence many country and rock artists, as evidenced by the "Join the Band" album http://www.littlefeat.net/index.php?page=joinband.

Sales figure source: http://www.riaa.org/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=top-selling-artists

About Stevie Ray Vaughan:

R&R Hof inductee John Lee Hooker
To me, he's one of the greatest blues singers there ever was. I'm very sad because I wish he were here. But his music will never die. He's one of the greatest blues musicians that ever picked up a guitar. The first time we met was in Austin, Texas at Antone's, and it was him and his brother, Jimmie. That was fifteen or twenty years ago, and at that time he could play tremendously. And I said, "Someday this kid's going to shake the whole world up". And he was one of the nicest people. You couldn't help but like him, you couldn't help but love him. I never cry, but yesterday, when I heard the news [about Stevie's death], I sat down on my bed and cried like a little baby.


R&R Hof inductee Mick Jagger
He was the greatest blues guitarist of his generation.


Multiple R & R HoF Inductee Eric Clapton:
I didn't get to see or hear Stevie play near often enough, but every time I did I got chills and knew I was in the presence of greatness.He seemed to be an open channel and music just flowed through him. It never seemed to dry up.


R&R Hof inductee David Bowie
I saw Stevie in two completely opposite places. In 1983 he was sitting cross-legged on my floor during rehearsals for a not to be undertaken tour. His furrowed brow and sallow cheeks seemed old and weary on a face that young. Our talk drifted from blues to travel to books. All at once, his engine revved up to full throttle and he waxed at length about the things he read, fixing pointedly on a tome concerning the ups and downs of a young boy. He told me how inspirational this book was and how one day the lessons in it would enable him to stand taller than he already was. As the conversation ended, his expression fell back into the unknownable depths that only the truly hurt can fathom.

The second time was at a Double Trouble gig in 1990. With bright, shiny eyes, a huge warm grin and hug, he brought me back into his dressing room. Sure enough, times had changed and he related to me with passion how bad things had gotten and how good they were now. Happiness, hope, and fulfillment filled his face. Right there I knew he had become as tall as the thoughts in the book of which he had spoken those many years before. Stevie had one thing going that eludes so many. He had grown into the man he knew he always was.


R & R HoF Inductee Buddy Guy
Stevie is the best friend I ever had, the best guitarist I ever heard, and the best person anyone will ever want to know. He will be missed a lot.


More at: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Stevie_Ray_Vaughan

I'd also note that R & R HoF inductees Bonnie Raitt, Stevie Wonder, and Jackson Browne led the crowd in singing "Amazing Grace" at Vaughan's funeral.

..so if a man is judged by the company he keeps, Stevie Ray Vaughan belongs in the HoF. He belongs in yesterday.The powers that be in Cleveland should stop whatever the Hell it is they are doing and induct him right now.

By the way, here is the inductee list: http://rockhall.com/inductees/alphabetical/V/

I apologize to all if this rant constitutes threadjacking.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
38. I remember Stevie playing at the Rome Inn with his brother way back
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jul 2012

Not even counting all the times I heard him in clubs all over Austin.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
35. Inclusion in the rock and roll hall of fame isn't exactly a high bar to pass
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jul 2012

That said ZZ Top was one of the best bands of the 70's. They should have called it quits though when they went synth. And also re-recording all of the drumming for the Tejas CD release was a big mistake.

auburngrad82

(5,029 posts)
42. I like ZZTop but Steve Miller should be there way before they go
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:47 PM
Jul 2012

Steve Miller really deserves to be in the HOF way ahead of ZZTop.

The best ZZTop album was Deguello. Anything else is just fluff.

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