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(8,059 posts)when we lived near one. We never got a pig hat!
Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)It seems to work out better in the long term as well.
When my sons were very young but old enough to understand, I promised them that I would never embarrass them on purpose.
I'm sorry to say that I have, on occasion, embarrassed them by accident, but never with intention.
Arkansas Granny
(31,534 posts)paleotn
(17,989 posts)Those years are tough enough on them as it is. They don't need that shit.
stopdiggin
(11,382 posts)Doesn't look like the 'sense of humor' is carrying over too well. I'll leave it there.
Emile
(22,983 posts)867-5309.
(1,189 posts)As a father of three daughters, I just don't understand the glee in making them miserable and uncomfortable.
packman
(16,296 posts)They'll be sitting around the dinner table , Dad-his grown daughters and their children- after the Thanksgiving meal, reminiscing about this and laff, and laff, and laff.
All in good fun
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)Beacuse it's a father doing it to his daughters? Instead of everyone just having a good time, the father had to make it about himself at the expense of his daughters. He decided he would be the only one to enjoy it, at their expense. This is bullying and mysoginist. And we don't know how they'll feel about this type of treatment after they're grown.
packman
(16,296 posts)It's all too obvious the whole thing is staged for family memories.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)And as a dad, with no "personnel" problems, I'd have never done that publicly to mine.
KS Toronado
(17,353 posts)867-5309.
(1,189 posts)wouldn't it just strengthen the argument that it can be harmful?
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irisblue
(33,035 posts)Recording it and playing it back at home later in the week is one thing, choosing to embarrass them by putting this on the internet is wrong.
Fla Dem
(23,768 posts)A) this is the Lounge
B) lighten up
C) video is clearly staged
D) raise your kids how you want, but teasing is not bad parenting and how the fuck you got misogyny out of that - I can't even
Couldn't wrap my head around the "misogyny".
My kid is 39...we've been embarrassing each other in public since he learned to talk. His wifey now joins in (on my side, of course ).
The more I watch, the more I agree it was staged.
getagrip_already
(14,864 posts)Embarassing our kids; one of the many services we perform.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)(No teenage girls were harmed in the making of this video. Lighten up, people.)
calimary
(81,519 posts)Adults included. Then youre all laughing together at how funny we all look in our crazy hats! Or only Dad could carry it off - if HE had been the only one at table to wear a goofy mask. Dont humiliate your kids. They both look miserable and embarrassed.
Hey Dad, good job.
Damage done.
Theyre gonna remember this day for a lifetime.
ShazzieB
(16,541 posts)This thing made me cringe, and the comments defending it as all in good fun are making me cringe even more. I'm just glad to see that there are quite a few people who see this the way I do.
This was NOT how you make happy family memories that your kids will laugh about in years to come. This is how you send them a message that "Dad is a mean-spirited bully who thinks it's fun to make me miserable." And this is not okay.
Neither my husband or I ever did anything to intentionally embarrass our daughter. It wasn't something we made a big point of avoiding or even consciously thought about. It just never occurred to either of us to do such a thing, much less that it would be funny or entertaining. Maybe because neither of us had parents who did that, either.
That dad wasn't having fun WITH his kids. He was having fun AT THEIR EXPENSE. That's not a cool thing to do to anybody, and it's a terrible thing to do with your own vulnerable, defenseless children who can't stand up for themselves or fight back. He's teaching those kids that making fun of people IS cool, and that it's okay to use it as a means to exert power over others. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn out to be "mean girls" who make themselves feel important by bullying anyone who's different from them in school. I hope they don't, but if they did, they'd just be acting out what their dad taught them.
So yeah, I found this disturbing, not funny. And before anyone posts to accuse me of lacking a sense of humor, this is not about having a sense of humor. It's about empathy, which Merriam-Webster* defines as "understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another." When I look at that video, my vicarious experience of the feelings of those kids crowds out everything else, and the last thing I feel like doing is laughing.
*https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
packman
(16,296 posts)You are reading WAY to much into this- if you can't see how it is just a dad and his two kids making a video and having fun with it, you are viewing it from too close of an encounter with your own life. Sounds like someone who took a Psych 101 class -and - who quotes Webster anyway? The majority of the people on this site understand empathy and don't require a dictionary definition of it.
How do you know that dad wasn't having fun with his kids? Look at the first girl wearing that hat, exaggeration . And that other look is pure gold. Looks like a family that enjoys themselves and what they do - that's a loving, caring family to me .
ShazzieB
(16,541 posts)I don't really have much to add to that, except that I don't think we all have to agree on this, and I don't think any of us should be telling anyone else that their reaction to this is invalid, just because we had a different reaction.
Furthermore, I don't think any of us is reading something into this that isn't there. We're not imagining things or making things up. All of us are reacting more strongly to different aspects of it, and we're allowed to do that.
Wingus Dingus
(8,059 posts)ShazzieB
(16,541 posts)I don't think this thing is cute, fun, or light-hearted. I think it's mean-spirited and cringeworthy.
Exagerrated/staged? Maybe. But the kids are obviously not in on the "joke." They're the butt of it, and they're miserable. That makes a big difference to some of us.
I'm not trying to start an argument, because I don't expect to change your opinion. You just stated your opinion, and now I'm stating mine. Cheers.
Boomerproud
(7,968 posts)ShazzieB
(16,541 posts)I just don't see that at all. They look very uncomfortable to me, like they are highly embarrassed and wish it was just...over.
The only person who looks like he's having fun is Dad. He's having loads of fun, and i believe he thinks that they are, too. I don't think he's deliberately trying to make them uncomfortable; he's just so into the whole thing that he can't see they're experiencing it in a very different way than he is.
I don't know what more I can say about it. But I'm obviously not the only person here who was made uncomfortable by this. If I was, I probably wouldn't even have said anything. As it is, I think we probably all just need to agree to disagree at this point. We see this differently, and that's actually okay, because we're all different individuals. I don't think any of us has the tight to criticize or belittle anyone else for having one kind of reaction or another.
calimary
(81,519 posts)Some people have different levels of sensitivity and some people have different levels of what's funny.
I guess one could say this is the ear/listener version of "eye of the beholder."
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Their reactions.
It seems as though many people ave never seen a tik tok video before.