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Some one explain to me what an encel is (Original Post) Stargazer99 Nov 2022 OP
It's spelled "incel" Clash City Rocker Nov 2022 #1
Do you mean "celibate" ? secondwind Nov 2022 #2
Yeah, sorry Clash City Rocker Nov 2022 #4
Hey. I celebrated when I was no longer celibate! Aristus Nov 2022 #14
Ugly, stupid, no personality, no social skills, women hating virgins. Funtatlaguy Nov 2022 #3
Involuntary celebate. calimary Nov 2022 #5
AKA your maiden aunt. Walleye Nov 2022 #7
I actually had one. calimary Nov 2022 #10
That is a wonderful story. There's hope for all of us I guess Walleye Nov 2022 #11
There's ALWAYS hope! calimary Nov 2022 #13
I believe definitions matter. Both words are open Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #6
It was a Ford sold in the 1950's that nobody liked Effete Snob Nov 2022 #8
An incel is an asshole who thinks that he deserves sex that he can't get because he is an asshole. Chainfire Nov 2022 #9
They can get sex... MicaelS Nov 2022 #12
Of course not, that would be dishonorable. malthaussen Dec 2022 #16
Somebody raised really poorly. malthaussen Dec 2022 #15

Clash City Rocker

(3,406 posts)
1. It's spelled "incel"
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 05:28 AM
Nov 2022

Short for “involuntarily celebrate.” Guys who haven’t had sex with a woman, and who, instead of seeing that as a result of their own inadequacies, blame it on women, to the point where some of them react with violence.

calimary

(81,993 posts)
5. Involuntary celebate.
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 06:16 AM
Nov 2022

And yeah, now that I think of it, that’s a term that seems to apply mainly to men. I’ve never heard of any women being described that way.

calimary

(81,993 posts)
10. I actually had one.
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 02:22 PM
Nov 2022

For most of her life she was single. Babysat me a lot when I was little. Really wonderful woman, living, sweet, indulgent of my whims and my various “play pretend” games.

Last time I saw her was several years later, after we’d moved away and had gone back for a brief visit. And she’d actually found someone! At long last, in her 60s, I think, she’d finally found someone, fallen in live, and got married.

And her whole appearance had changed in the process. Gone was the matron look. Where she never wore makeup, dressed in drab utilitarian clothing, her hair in a tight, severe presentation with a hair net, and those black utilitarian shoes like what the nuns wore.

No more of that! She’d transformed into a pretty woman-of-a-certain-age, dressed in more flattering, colorful, and feminine styles, wore some makeup, and her hair was looser, more softly arranged around her face. She was prettier - and her appearance had become something she cared about more than before. She’d gained some weight, and her whole look was softer and more approachable. Her demeanor was different, too - softer, and even a wee bit coquettish. There was a smile on her face and a twinkle in her eye that hadn’t been there before.

I was still pretty young then but I immediately noticed a difference. Like a drab unremarkable caterpillar that had turned into a glorious butterfly.

Tetrachloride

(8,023 posts)
6. I believe definitions matter. Both words are open
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 07:44 AM
Nov 2022

to clarification as it might pertain to whatever individual. There are grey areas where a person may exist for a short time.

Involuntary may be voluntary for a time.

Being a jerk to others? that’s a lot easier to agree on

malthaussen

(17,307 posts)
16. Of course not, that would be dishonorable.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 02:42 PM
Dec 2022

In the incel world, sex is the reward for proper conduct. It utterly confuses and infuriates them that they conduct themselves perfectly (in their own view), yet are denied the acknowledgement of this conduct.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,307 posts)
15. Somebody raised really poorly.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 02:38 PM
Dec 2022

It's easy to mock the incels (and I do), but they are the way they are at least partially because they learned all the wrong things from society and their parents.

The rationale of the incel is simple enough: if I act in accordance with the Rules as they have been set down, then I am entitled to possess the sex doll of my dreams. If said doll withholds such due recognition of my perfect actions, then she is being unfair, unreasonable, mean, and probably insolent. It's very much a transactional approach to relationships, with the constraint that there are rigid rules that should be followed by everyone, and that not observing these rules is a capital offense (in extreme circumstances). The incel believes he is a perfect little "gentleman" (by their own words), and that she who fails to acknowledge this, and reward him as he deserves, is being deliberately contrary and unjust. It's quite appalling, really -- but the attitude of the incel is not much different from certain mainstream attitudes, only more extreme.

It would help, of course, if they saw women as people, but that is apparently too much to ask of them.

-- Mal

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