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To me it isn't up for debate. Glory is the greatest Civil War movie ever made (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Mar 2023 OP
👇👇👇 Goonch Mar 2023 #1
No argument here. n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2023 #2
Enabled Denzel Washington to win his first Oscar! BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #3
I agree. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2023 #4
Too "woke" for red states now. nattyice Mar 2023 #5
At the time I first saw that movie, FeelingBlue Mar 2023 #6
ignorance Perchance? Had She Even Seen The Movie? MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #8
I wouldn't either. However, some aspects of it reveal what may upset a modern, self-aware American.. jaxexpat Mar 2023 #11
One of the simplest, but most chilling examples of those realities, for me... malthaussen Mar 2023 #14
Who is it that can plumb the depths of misery and racism, hatred for a stranger? jaxexpat Mar 2023 #15
In case you didn't know. twodogsbarking Mar 2023 #7
The Civil War was preview of a coming attraction - World War I. sarge43 Mar 2023 #9
I'm a history teacher by trade. Of course I knew that. AZLD4Candidate Mar 2023 #10
a line from a steve earle tune- ben mccullough mopinko Mar 2023 #12
They took some liberties with history... malthaussen Mar 2023 #13

OldBaldy1701E

(5,144 posts)
4. I agree.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:04 AM
Mar 2023

An absolutely brilliant film that has impact and shows off some great talent. Think about this cast.

Matthew Broderick
Denzel Washington
Morgan Freeman
Andre Braugher
Cliff DeYoung

And that is just some of the main characters. The film holds a place of honor in my collection.

And, that soundtrack! James Horner is a genius!

FeelingBlue

(681 posts)
6. At the time I first saw that movie,
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:17 AM
Mar 2023

I was teaching in an urban public high school. At our communal lunch table, I brought up that I had seen the movie the night before. A black teacher sitting across from me said something disparaging about it and added, “I wouldn’t show that movie to my dog.” I was so stunned by her comment and embarrassed that I’d offered an offense that I don’t think I had the nerve to follow up with a question. To this day, I don’t know why she made that comment.

jaxexpat

(6,844 posts)
11. I wouldn't either. However, some aspects of it reveal what may upset a modern, self-aware American..
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:52 AM
Mar 2023

of color. And, again, I'm just guessing.

1. White officers required as no black officers existed or were accepted
2. The battle of Battery Wagner was a suicide mission which accomplished little to nothing tactical or strategic
3. Black soldiers were USUALLY used as the point of the spear and ALWAYS suffered the most casualties
4. In the Battle of Olustee in north Florida black soldiers were ordered to hold a line while the white soldiers escaped and were nearly annihilated, never retreated, on fear of execution. (Picked that up perusing the battle info at the state park there.) Baker county Florida has a distinctive culture even today, but I don't know how much of it plays from the civil war battle fought there. Kentucky isn't the only "dark and bloody ground".

Great movie and profoundly moving but I can see why some might resent the fact that the realities of black forces in the US military cannot be conveyed in a single film.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
14. One of the simplest, but most chilling examples of those realities, for me...
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:34 PM
Mar 2023

... was the first time I was reading the crew list for a US warship whose skipper had written his memoirs. This was the official Navy crew list, and as I read it, I saw that several crew had a parenthetical " (n) " after their names. eg, "Robert Jones, Matt 3c (n)." The crew list specified which crew were "Negroes!" (think the Navy also tagged Chinese and Filipino crew)

Still SMH over why the Navy thought that was necessary.

-- Mal

twodogsbarking

(9,795 posts)
7. In case you didn't know.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:19 AM
Mar 2023

Twice as many Civil War soldiers died from disease as from battle wounds, the result in considerable measure of poor sanitation in an era that created mass armies that did not yet understand the transmission of infectious diseases like typhoid, typhus, and dysentery.
[link:https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/national_cemeteries/death.html#:~:text=Twice%20as%20many%20Civil%20War,typhoid%2C%20typhus%2C%20and%20dysentery.|

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
9. The Civil War was preview of a coming attraction - World War I.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:44 AM
Mar 2023

At least by then a vaccination for typhoid was available and administered.

Glory both lifts and breaks the heart.

"If this man should fall, who will lift the flag and carry on?"
"I will."

mopinko

(70,197 posts)
12. a line from a steve earle tune- ben mccullough
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:54 AM
Mar 2023

they told us that our enemy would all be dressed in blue,
they forgot about the winter cold and the curse of fever too.

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