Who do you feel doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? And who should be in it? I love

[debm55]

Willie Nelson, but I think he should be in the Country Hall of Fame.--if there is such a thing. Also, what is the criteria for adding musical artists to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I am going to look up the criteria and if there is a yearly limit of musical artists added per year.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. There is a County Hall of Fame.

In Nashville I believe.

[debm55]

3. Isn't he to be in the RRHF this year?

[debm55]

4. I thought so too. But I wasn't 100% sure. Thanks.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. Paul Revere & the Raiders, 3 Dog Night, & Johnny Rivers should be in.

[Tetrachloride]

5. Chage & Aska

[debm55]

7. But is it based on record styles, known names by the general population, or creativity? Just

wondering. I know the Oscars have PR people that push for actors and actresses and movies. Does a board approve of the enlistees?

[Tetrachloride]

10. you probably meant to reply to Rampart ?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

11. There is the fan voting, and a board that I think is musicians and journalists

I think Rolling Stone has a heavy hand in who gets nominated, and Jann Wenner at least used to have veto power, I believe. This year, I believe Cyndi Lauper got the most fan votes, but wasn't inducted.

[Coventina]

19. They voted down Tony and Grammy winning Cyndi Lauper?!?!?

What a joke of an institution!

[rampartc]

6. willy nelson belongs on mt rushmore.

"rock and roll" is a severely eclectic style that can certainly describe many country artists, inc "waylon and willie and the boys."

[debm55]

8. Yes, he does, but I was talking about style of music and I think Willie is more country.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

9. I think people are hung up on the "rock" part

And then get upset at non-rock musicians being inducted.
Rock music is a genre, but it is not the same as Rock and Roll.
Rock and Roll is a genre, but it is also an attitude/ethos.
Willie's music isn't rock, but his attitude is rock and roll. Ditto for Run-DMC.
As to who should be in that aren't...
King Crimson, Warren Zevon, Joy Division/New Order, The Monkees, Iron Maiden, MC5 are my big ones and there are probably another dozen at least that if I spent more than 5 minutes thinking about it would be inducted as well.

[debm55]

12. Perhaps the name should be changed to something else? Or perhaps have a wider selection from

different genres each year--thus covering artists who never get selected. Isn't it four now? Up it to 6.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. Your Last Paragraph

I agree with all you have listed there. All of them should be in. Plus, Blue Oyster Cult.

[ProfessorGAC]

32. GMTA

[2naSalit]

13. There is a special group of honorees...

Who are being recognized as "cross-over" artists. Willie is one of them, so is Chaka Kahn and a few others.

[debm55]

14. Thank you for that information. I see the cross-over part.

[2naSalit]

15. Read this...

https://variety.com/2023/music/news/rock-roll-hall-fame-willie-nelson-kate-bush-missy-elliott-sheryl-crow-rage-inductees-1235602078/

An article about this year's honorees. 'splains it all.

[debm55]

16. Thank you, that answered my questions.Some posters did not like the idea of a given artist or group

not being included year after year. Your link answer the question. and there is a variety of artists that some feel should be included and were not.

[2naSalit]

17. Yes.

It's not exactly a purists' palace of fame.

[Coventina]

18. Echo & the Bunnymen

It's a crime they are not in yet.



On edit: Bauhaus



They should have been in long ago.

Also, where in the hell are the Smiths?!?!?!?

Good god! This "Hall" is a joke!!

Devo?

Come on!!!!

[AZSkiffyGeek]

23. Devo has at least been nominated several times

The Smiths, Bauhaus, Echo, not so much.
Although it seems like 80s New Wave/Alternative is just starting to get recognized, so maybe in the next few years.

[Coventina]

25. How in the heck does Devo get nominated but not get in?

Not only do they have a stellar catalog of works, but they have been sooooooo influential!

Who the heck is running this joke of a "Hall of Fame"?

[brewens]

20. Too many to name shouldn't be in. Blue Oyster Cult should have been a long time ago.

You don't listen to a classic rock station long before you rea the Oyster Boys.

[debm55]

21. Is there a time limit to when BOC can get in?

[brewens]

26. Not as far as I know. Eric Bloom was pissed for years that Alice Cooper wasn't in. He is now but

that one stunk for a long time. BOC got the big break replacing Redbone on an Alice tour.

[Coventina]

22. Should NOT be in: Green Day

There is no logical scenario where Green Day is in the Hall of Fame when Social Distortion is not.

No effing way!!

[AZSkiffyGeek]

24. Musically, influentially, I agree

But Green Day has sold a helluva lot more albums than Social D., and I'm sure that figures in.
Honestly, I'm surprised Green Day got in as soon as they did considering Soundgarden isn't even in yet.

[debm55]

27. I was wondering that too. I went over to RRHF. Have all the list of artists that got in since it

opened. There are some that have waited many years. Oh--the BeeGees??

[Emile]

29. Willie Nelson deserves to be in the rock-'n'-roll hall of fame. He

is a song writer and many of his songs have crossed into rock-'n'-roll.

[debm55]

30. Yes, I understand you as a songwriter he does belong in the RRHF.

[Elessar Zappa]

33. Iron Maiden keeps getting snubbed.

I think they definitely deserve to be in the rock hall of fame.

[LudwigPastorius]

34. The only criteria seems to be...

"Which artist, of any genre, will draw the most tourists, but isn't in yet?". That really chaps me because induction could have been really meaningful.

When everything is "Rock 'n Roll", nothing is.

[jmowreader]

35. I can think of several people that you wouldn't probably consider

James Charles Marshall: rock and roll just wouldn't be rock and roll without a row of Marshall Stacks at the back of the stage, now would it?

Georg Neumann: invented the condenser microphone, which is heavily used in recording studios, and the modern record cutting lathe. He also invented the rechargeable battery.

Roy and Gene Clair: founded Clair Brothers, one of the first touring sound contractors and probably the most successful.

Willi Studer: pioneer in multitrack tape recorders. Too many of your favorite records were created using Studer's machines.

...all right, and also Iron Maiden, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Spinal Tap.

[debm55]

36. I think they made a great contribution to Rock and Roll and thus should be included. I was speaking

speaking to fans of certain groups who are not in the RRHF yet. One being Heavy Metail not being included. I am surprised at ELP. In the film industry directors, sound productors, cinematographers, dress designers are also given awards. Which I think they should. This question was asked as poster not for my opinion but for those who had a question about why their group wasn't included. I feel like they have a right to question the RRHF.