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Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:09 AM Sep 2012

I'm torn. What would you do in this situation?

Last edited Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited Saturday afternoon, the day of the trip, 12:35 PM: I decided not to go. My thanks to everyone who weighed in. I apologize for not responding individually. I am now home while they're out on the water. I'm supposed to be doing housework, getting ready for my friends' visit. But here I am on DU, ostensibly taking a break . . .

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Our friends Sherree and Dorothy have a nice boat, a 33-ft cabin cruiser. Several times a year they invite us to join them on the boat for jaunts around the Choptank River, and sometimes out onto the Chesapeake Bay.

This Saturday, the event is to go out on the boat, then back to their house for dinner that Sherree's sister, who is a chef, will cook.

I don't want to go.

Pros:
* Enjoying being out on the water. It's intoxicating.
* Seeing Ichabod Heron and the fish hawks -- they're everywhere on the Choptank.
* I'll be the one driving.*
* Mrs. V. and Nephew V. really want me to go.
* Spend time with Sherree, on whom I have a massive crush.

Cons:
* It's a two-hour drive from our house to their "boat house" in Cambridge (MD). With this dinner planned, we will probably not leave Cambridge until 10-11 PM.
* I'm a big woman, and I am uncomfortable getting on and off the boat, and I am uncomfortable sitting in the boat. It's the one place where I feel really self-conscious and ashamed of my weight. (Also, I have a boot on my left foot that makes it harder to get on and off the boat.)
* My best friend and his partner are visiting from CA next weekend, and there's much to be done to prepare the house for them. I don't want to lose a day in readying for their visit.
* Saturday is dry cleaners & groceries day. The dry cleaners is closed on Sunday, and I detest doing the shopping on Sunday.
* It's hard for me to stay on my Medifast diet in situations like these.

If you were in my spot, what would you do?

* This is pathetic: I have a very hard time dealing with it when Mrs. V. drives. Not that she's not a good driver; she is. But she doesn't like to drive, and I enjoy it, so when we go anywhere, I drive by default. But when I'm not with her I am extremely nervous and feel things would be better if I were driving. I have to be in control of all driving situations. I know, like I said: pathetic. I don't know how to get over being such a control freak.
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I'm torn. What would you do in this situation? (Original Post) Bertha Venation Sep 2012 OP
Good grief, go! HappyMe Sep 2012 #1
Somehow this sticks out strongly for me... HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #2
When in doubt, don't NV Whino Sep 2012 #3
I'd say go. JoeyT Sep 2012 #4
From one big woman to another LynneSin Sep 2012 #5
+1 and thank you. nolabear Sep 2012 #22
Can't advise you, but can support you if you decide to go. cbayer Sep 2012 #6
I hope your best friend and his partner might understand a messy disorganized house... hunter Sep 2012 #7
Queen of Ambivalence! LOL. Me, too. mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #8
Stay home, get some of the last silver queen of the season, and put on a video. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #9
My sympathies on the boot HeiressofBickworth Sep 2012 #10
you are analyzing too much...Go Already! HipChick Sep 2012 #11
People have given good advice already, Go. MiddleFingerMom Sep 2012 #12
I've found I always kick myself for passing on opportunities like the one you've described. bluesbassman Sep 2012 #13
I don't know that I have enough info to say what I would do... harmonicon Sep 2012 #14
I say go Denninmi Sep 2012 #15
Go stevend56 Sep 2012 #16
This was an easy "don't go" for me. noamnety Sep 2012 #17
+1. I thought the same thing. I just don't do stuff anymore unless I really want to. riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #24
Boot on my foot would keep me home... Phentex Sep 2012 #18
May or may not help at this point, but weather's gonna be lousy. elleng Sep 2012 #19
No real answer pipi_k Sep 2012 #20
go bertha blueknight Sep 2012 #21
Don't go. Too many "cons". I have Raven Sep 2012 #23
I was going to say don't because you stated right away you didn't want to go Kali Sep 2012 #25
I say, crunch60 Sep 2012 #26
So, Bertha...did you go? mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #27
Thanks, everyone. I didn't go. Bertha Venation Sep 2012 #28

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
1. Good grief, go!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
Sep 2012

Life is too short. Go and enjoy yourself. Someone will help you on and off the boat. You are doing something about your weight, so don't worry about it. Small portions of the dinner is key. Eat up the veggies. Drink a bunch of water before dinner so you feel full.



Go, enjoy your friends. Enjoy the weather, water and air.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
2. Somehow this sticks out strongly for me...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sep 2012

"I am uncomfortable getting on and off the boat, and I am uncomfortable sitting in the boat."

I would act on that awareness.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
3. When in doubt, don't
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:34 AM
Sep 2012

Just say no. When you come up with that many excuses, it appears to me you really don't want to go. So don't.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
4. I'd say go.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sep 2012

From your pros it sounds like a day you'll really enjoy and remember for years, and those are hard to come by.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
5. From one big woman to another
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:39 AM
Sep 2012

I've had a ton of therapy and enough to realize that I judge myself way more than others judge me. Obviously your friends are aware of your size and if they had that much of an issue they would not still be inviting you.

If you were to go I would call ahead and mention about the medifast diet. Not sure what you can eat on that diet but perhaps you can have a salad and ask that they have that or other foods available so you don't feel left out when you enjoy dinner.

HOWEVER....two things you did mention.

IF you have that boot on your foot then I think that is a good reason to not go. Also, I know how it is when you are expecting company, I always need the weekend before so I can get the place cleaned. Both of these are very legitimate reasons to not go.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
22. +1 and thank you.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:51 PM
Sep 2012

I too have an opportunity to go somewhere on a boat soon and I feel the same self-consciousness because I'm zaftig. But I also remember what got me started when I once lost a large amount of weight. It was the realization that my world had closed down to the point where the horizon was right under my nose. There were so many things I didn't do, or couldn't do, either from real limitation or the psychological limitation I imposed on myself. It's a self imposed prison.

Go, Bertha. And so will I. And stick to the Medi-fast and make a big damn deal of it.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. Can't advise you, but can support you if you decide to go.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:42 AM
Sep 2012

We just had my 83 year old father on our boat for 3 days. I was concerned about his getting on and off the boat, but once on the boat, he was comfortable and really enjoyed himself.

I am clearly biased, but I think there are few things better than spending my days on the water. For me, all the stresses melt away and it is easier then to do the things that must be done.

Can you just go for the boat outing and bow out for dinner?

hunter

(38,312 posts)
7. I hope your best friend and his partner might understand a messy disorganized house...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:00 PM
Sep 2012

... should you decide to go and not have time to properly prepare.

Our house is beyond all hope. Anyone who can't tolerate dogs and dog hair on the beds, or the young adult chaos and drama our kids bring home, or the ongoing artistic projects in the kitchen and everywhere else, well, they had best stay in a motel. Yeah, I know, one of my kid's friends and a dog are sleeping on the sofa. And they're both snoring.

I always end up regretting the "not going" more than I ever do the "going" even when the "going" brings a great amount of additional turmoil into my life.

Can you swim? I have a funny story about the mayor of a large city and boats...

mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
8. Queen of Ambivalence! LOL. Me, too.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:10 PM
Sep 2012

Out of your 'cons', the only one that really stands is the 2 hour drive home late after a long day.
Can you make it an overnight?

Getting on/off the boat will only take a few moments. You will be helped.
What does it take for you to be comfortable on the boat? Your own backrest
or seat cushion? Bring them. You also might surprise yourself with the weight
you've lost to discover that you are more comfortable than the last time you were
out on the boat!

Your California friends are coming to see YOU--they won't care if everything is spotless
in the house. That's one place where you can USE your boot on your foot for an excuse!!!


The diet--hmmm, I know about that. Someone else has already advised to eat veggies, drink
water, etc. If you're not comfortable going off your diet--making good choices from what is served--
then can you have your medifast meal ahead of time? Bring some veggies with you in a cooler in
the car and put together a big salad for your dinner? If you elect to do that, just let
the chef know ahead of time for portion planning. And drink LOTS of water.

You have to be comfortable. You might surprise yourself--by pushing yourself a little outside your comfort
zone--at what a good time you'll have.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
10. My sympathies on the boot
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:05 AM
Sep 2012

I have experienced that also. I was scheduled to go to Disneyland with the family and broke my foot about 4 weeks before the scheduled trip. I dithered about not going because of the boot and how difficult it would be to get around. I knew that I wouldn't be able to stand/walk with that boot all day and all evening. In the end I decided to go anyway. I contacted a company that furnished a wheelchair to the hotel for me. Disneyland is absolutely wonderful about accommodating people in wheelchairs. And at the end, the company came to the hotel to pick up their chair. I had a great time.

I'll agree with other posters -- go!! figure out how to accommodate your issues and then go have a good time with your friends. They have invited you so they obviously would like your company.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
11. you are analyzing too much...Go Already!
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:12 AM
Sep 2012

I do this to myself all the time..and inevitably go and end up having a good time..

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
12. People have given good advice already, Go.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:46 AM
Sep 2012

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As for the boot, in 1981 I had a horrendous motorcycle crash (a drunk hit me from behind at a stoplight
while he was doing 55 mph and decided to blow the light because he didn't see me sitting there).
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Survived (though I really shouldn't have, given the circumstances). Had a renewed and enhanced appreciation
for life, that's for sure. Went out to a bar not too long after being released from my 10-day hospital stay with
my crutches and full-leg cast (and my LONG hair and beard and 3-pc suit -- I was KILLIN' it that night).
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Saw this stunning woman the moment I walked in, but she was at a table with a guy, so I pretty much
discounted any chance of getting together with her.
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She approached me later on. Turned out the guy was her brother, there to run a blockade against assholes.
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We ended up going home together and had a great and HOT 6-month relationship (even took her to a
holiday get-together in Connecticut to meet my family... who loved her too).
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I asked her several weeks after we got together what the HELL, considering the crutches and the full-leg
cast, inspired her to come over and pick ME up.
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"Even with those drawbacks, you walked in like you OWNED the place."
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Obviously, we split eventually, but the relationship is one FINE memory and the point of my story is to
address your boot problem.
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WWMFMD?
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He would walk onto that boat (or anywhere) and, even if he required assistance (perhaps especially
BECAUSE he required assistance), he would say:
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My name is Bertha Venation.
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I have this badass boot that I'm wearing.
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That boot CAN and WILL not detract from the badass woman who is in it.
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All in your head, of course... but let those sentiments fill you and shine through to all others.
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And feel free to substitute "beautiful" for "badass", or any other adjective you desire.
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It's all just a matter of personal preference.
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Edit to add: Ichabod Heron and the Fish Hawks (GREAT name) has just GOT to be a blues band, no?
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bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
13. I've found I always kick myself for passing on opportunities like the one you've described.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:19 AM
Sep 2012

And while the "cons" you've listed are all very rational and real, you won't remember them a year from now. You will remember the boat trip and dinner.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
14. I don't know that I have enough info to say what I would do...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 05:10 AM
Sep 2012

simply because I'm not you.

As I get older, traveling long distances is less and less enjoyable to me, but I still do it sometimes for the right occasion. I don't know if this is the right occasion for you though.

About your cons:

Don't be so self-conscious. Your friends are YOUR friends, not the friends of an idealized image you have of who you'd like to be. I'm a fat guy. I know it, my friends know it, and we all love me anyway.

I don't know what to say about having the boot on your foot. My brother had one for most of the summer. It sucked and meant that he couldn't do everything he'd like, but he got by. I was always worried about him hurting himself though; just don't do that.

About your friends who are visiting, they're visiting you, not your house. People make too much fuss about having guests, I think. Remember, they also live somewhere and understand that it's not always going to be absolutely spotless.

Can you go a week without going to the cleaners? I know that grocery shopping can suck at certain times, but it might be worth it, and remember that this is one meal you don't have to shop for!

I don't know what to tell you about the diet. I would guess that taking one meal off is ok, but I'm no doctor (well, I am, but not the medical kind).

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
17. This was an easy "don't go" for me.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:47 AM
Sep 2012

It wasn't based on measuring the worth of your individual pros and cons. It was based on this: "I don't want to go."

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. +1. I thought the same thing. I just don't do stuff anymore unless I really want to.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:54 PM
Sep 2012

One of the nice things about getting older is shedding the social conventions of having to do stuff because I thought I should.

I may even shed hosting the big family gatherings (Thanksgiving, Xmas, birthdays etc) soon as well since they're beginning to grind (which is probably the first step towards the full curmudgeon and not going at all).

Of course the other thing I shed along with that was caring about the state of my house for company.... I have the Merry Maids come in and shovel it out regularly (3 dogs, 3 humans, many barn cats in and out, 40+ horses... it gets bad quickly) but in between their cleaning job? Animal hair, furballs, dustbunnies gather within 24 hours yet I laugh in the face of their frantic efforts to get my attention or concern.....

Sounds like Bertha V actually wants to have a lovely house. So that would also tip the scales for me. Back in the day when I used to care I really would make the effort to have a clean house, fresh food and chilled drinks for company. That takes time, without stress.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
20. No real answer
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:54 AM
Sep 2012

from me, unfortunately, because I would probably be just as ambivalent as you over the whole thing, but...

I did want to say that your mention of the area...the Choptank, the heron, Chesapeake Bay...I've never been to the area, but I can imagine what it must be like from James Michener's book, "Chesapeake", which I have read too many times to count (along with two of my other favorites by him, "Hawaii" and "Centennial&quot .

If you're interested, there's a lot of history mixed in with the fiction.

I like the story of Jimmy, the Blue Crab...


blueknight

(2,831 posts)
21. go bertha
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
Sep 2012

to hell with house cleaning and groceries! and they knew you were a " bigger woman" when they invited you! im sure that bothers YOU, way more then it does THEM. drop the stuff off at the cleaners monday! its just one more day

Raven

(13,891 posts)
23. Don't go. Too many "cons". I have
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:52 PM
Sep 2012

a rule now that I don't do anything I don't want to do unless it's a life or death situation. You would probably have a good time once you got there but if you don't really feel comfortable on the boat and you have other things to do at home, follow your gut.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
25. I was going to say don't because you stated right away you didn't want to go
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:52 PM
Sep 2012

but then I read your pros and cons. a fun trip vs self-conciousness and boring chores?

as another size-enhanced woman, I know the feelings, but I have also learned that I am going to be fat even if I avoid life so I might as well go do things when I have the chance. Getting out on the water will feel so good, I personally think it outweighs (heh) the cons in your list. be carful with the foot and enjoy!

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