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UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:47 PM Dec 2012

Ever discover friend/whoever was ignorant basic knowledge/facts?

I was talkingto this friend on the phone, told her a bird/ was doing its thing, and she said it was "his nature/instinct."

I asked what she meant. I said, I guess Idon
t have termites in my house since the bird ain't knocking on my house

She said it was INSTINCT.

I asked are you crazy? The bird is looking for termites to EAT

She said, I never knew that


This person never KNEW that this bird was looking for SOMETHING TO EAT!!!!!!!!!

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Ever discover friend/whoever was ignorant basic knowledge/facts? (Original Post) UTUSN Dec 2012 OP
Woodpecker. It was a woodpecker. I left that out. n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #1
It was instinct. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #2
Not necessarily. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #3
O.K., but there are REASONS for the instinct, no? UTUSN Dec 2012 #6
The sound of the pecking warns interlopers to stay away. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #10
We used to have a FLicker who fought his reflection in our window. nolabear Dec 2012 #4
This underscores my point: Yes, an instinct is in play, in this case the instinct UTUSN Dec 2012 #9
Agreed. And you were intelligible to me! nolabear Dec 2012 #17
Wow, your sweetness has knocked the breath out of me!1 Thanks!1 n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #18
Perhaps Howtosolveshootings Dec 2012 #5
We have bluejays Loryn Dec 2012 #7
I built a fountain once. I had a woman come by to see it. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #8
My know-it-all right wing father never heard of youtube till last year when I told him Populist_Prole Dec 2012 #11
I once had a college classmate whose mother had agoraphobia Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #12
Well,my own limited life experience has also led to incidents like not knowing the creamer thing was UTUSN Dec 2012 #13
Every morning kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #14
i meet such people on a daily basis nycgiants9944 Dec 2012 #15
i once worked with a woman who didn't know fucking led to babies until about the third kid... KG Dec 2012 #16
I recently learned that a college educated friend had no idea of the age of the universe Orrex Dec 2012 #19

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
6. O.K., but there are REASONS for the instinct, no?
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:34 AM
Dec 2012

That said, how does pecking mark territory? Is there a scent to the pecked material? Does the pecking leave a design that is like writing? Somehow, this doesn't ring true to me because the woodpeckers that have been around here don't hang around long, are not consistent with their hanging around, so why would they claim possession?

Once, this woodpecker DID stake a claim, worked for days chipping out a nest hole in a rotten tree trunk, complete with a beveled edge around the opening, really nice pad. Then I witnessed his bringing the lady of the house there to inspect and approve. She did NOT approve. They flew off and never took up residence.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
10. The sound of the pecking warns interlopers to stay away.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:49 PM
Dec 2012

It may be true that they are looking for something to eat, but I just wanted to let you know they hammer at stuff for reasons besides looking for food.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
4. We used to have a FLicker who fought his reflection in our window.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:52 AM
Dec 2012

He was a regular, man. Every couple of days he'd grab hold of the wooden crosspiece in the huge window and just beat hell out of that other bird. I was always afraid he's hurt himself but he and the window both survived.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
9. This underscores my point: Yes, an instinct is in play, in this case the instinct
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:24 PM
Dec 2012

to claim and dominate/defend the claim, my point being that there IS a REASON for the instinct. Iow, the instinct evolved though association with a desirable outcome of whatever kind.

I volunteer that my o.p. was nearly unintelligible. My point was that my friend had NO concept of the woodpecker's pecking. She thought the pecking was its own thing, that the bird was hammering its head off just because. Whether it's for food, gouging out a nest, or marking territory, there is a reason for the instinct. In the case of your visitor fighting with his reflection, yes, the instinct is deflected by the bird's inability to distinguish between a reflection and a real rival, but the reason behind the instinct is still there.

Thanks for helping me to clarify my unintelligibility!1

Loryn

(944 posts)
7. We have bluejays
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:36 PM
Dec 2012

That come to the window and knock. I've run to every door thinking someone was here knocking.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
8. I built a fountain once. I had a woman come by to see it.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:49 PM
Dec 2012

She was a friend of the neighbor who couldn't understand why I would want a natural looking feature in my backyard. As she watched the water feature, with the water coming up through a bubbler at the top, falling down through a runnel and narrow corridor before falling down into a small 80 gallon "pond," she asked me where I connected the hose to bring in the water. I think it was the look of shock in my face that told her that the question was far out there.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
11. My know-it-all right wing father never heard of youtube till last year when I told him
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:52 PM
Dec 2012

He's great at data mining every conservatard website and bombarding my email inbox with right wing noise in the form of links, videos etc, but he never heard of youtube.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
12. I once had a college classmate whose mother had agoraphobia
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:52 PM
Dec 2012

and refused to go more than a couple of blocks away from home or ride in a car. They lived a couple of blocks from the college, which the daughter, who did not have agoraphobia, attended.

I was in a play with the daughter, and after one rehearsal, we all went out to a diner for dessert. Some people ordered pie and coffee. As we were served, the daughter picked up one of the little sealed creamer containers and asked what it was.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
13. Well,my own limited life experience has also led to incidents like not knowing the creamer thing was
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:15 PM
Dec 2012

I have only been to, yes, THE OLIVE GARDEN, less than a half dozen times, and the last time several years ago, I was with my elderly sister's look-down-your-nose (yes, she thinks the OLIVE GARDEN is nice) church friend and a priest, and looked at the condiments holders, didn't recognize a sugar substitute, and asked the waiter for one. He reached to the same holder and handed me the little paper tubes of sugar sub.

Limited life experience, mine, shows itself. This is along the lines of different places having their own organizing systems, like places where you go to the front to order and take a number to your table vs whatever other ones.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
14. Every morning
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:05 PM
Dec 2012

I go to the local gas station to get my morning tall, frosty Coca Cola. I don't drink coffee. I'm friends with the women who work there, and we got to talking about going to the city(Chicago)and taking a couple of our dogs to Montrose beach. One of the women said "There's a beach in Chicago?" I said yeah, there's several beaches in Chicago, on Lake Michigan. She said, I swear to jah, "There's a lake in Chicago? No way! What lake?"

This woman is in her mid-forties. It takes all kinds to make this world!

KG

(28,751 posts)
16. i once worked with a woman who didn't know fucking led to babies until about the third kid...
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:15 PM
Dec 2012

i didn't bother asking her were she thought they came from before...

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
19. I recently learned that a college educated friend had no idea of the age of the universe
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:32 AM
Dec 2012

He's not some fundy wackjob, either; he's a thoughtful progressive who's traveled around the world, and he had no idea at all.

When I asked him to guess, he was wrong by more than a factor of 1,000.


It was hard for me not to embarrass him, simply because of my honest shock at his ignorance of the subject.



Then there's another guy who has a master's in soil ecology and microbiology, and he flatly rejects all notion of human-influenced climate change. That blew my mind as well.

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