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An Atheist church?!?! Surely you jest! (Original Post) MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 OP
An obvious eventuality for any organized religion-ish group. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #1
Yup. MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #2
Jean Paul Sartre would be proud. talkingmime Mar 2013 #3
Naw. He's still waiting for some clown who never showed up. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #4
I saw this hilarious cartoon... Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #7
"And don't call me Shirley." talkingmime Mar 2013 #5
I picked a bad day MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #6
"THEY'RE COMING RIGHT AT US!" talkingmime Mar 2013 #10
lol MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #11
I've seen it a few times, in case you couldn't tell. talkingmime Mar 2013 #12
Same here lol MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #23
Haven't seen that one. With all of the video stores being defunct selections are rather limited. talkingmime Mar 2013 #31
I hear ya. MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #32
I found trailers on YouTube but not the full movie. I don't do Netflix or similar. talkingmime Mar 2013 #36
I've watched quite a few movies MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #37
Have you tried your library for movies? Even though we live in a small town, we have bike man Mar 2013 #39
A public lieberry? MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #41
If you go in, don't look right as you wander around, you should be ok. bike man Mar 2013 #45
Did you ever watch the TV series Police Squad? Ron Obvious Mar 2013 #14
I'm not familiar with it, but I haven't watched TV in over 30 years. talkingmime Mar 2013 #15
It's from the mid eighties... Ron Obvious Mar 2013 #16
Ah, a movie then. Isn't that about when he did the "Naked Gun" (or something) movies? talkingmime Mar 2013 #17
No, a TV series. Ron Obvious Mar 2013 #18
Ah, thank you!!! MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #19
I remember and love that show. OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #29
Whoa! Hold the phone there OG! MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #33
lol, ok then - I'll come to YOUR branch OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #34
LOL MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #35
That videotape bit makes me fall out of my chair every time. nt rrneck Mar 2013 #40
When the Buddha taught 2500 years ago TM99 Mar 2013 #8
Whats the point? bamacrat Mar 2013 #9
Athiests deny the existance of gods. While I don't believe in them, I can neither prove or disprove. talkingmime Mar 2013 #44
The agnostics beat them to it, but were too apathetic to push it csziggy Mar 2013 #13
Damn lazy Agnostics! MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #20
I've been following the UCTAA for over a decade. csziggy Mar 2013 #21
I will have to check that site out later MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #22
I just no longer have the energy to poke at religious types csziggy Mar 2013 #25
I still do, though it is not as abundant as it once was MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #26
Agnostics are NOT lazy. They just haven't decided. talkingmime Mar 2013 #42
I know MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #47
Well it was still funny. talkingmime Mar 2013 #48
Well thank ya muchly MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #49
If you are oppressed by religious people . . . siligut Mar 2013 #24
Agreed MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #30
"Repressed", but still... talkingmime Mar 2013 #43
Modern Ethical movement started around 1877. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #27
Hmmm MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #28
Many Unitarian churches are pretty close to this. kwassa Mar 2013 #38
UUs worship the Giver of Life. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #46
There used to be "Free Thought" churches all over America. Bucky Mar 2013 #50

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
7. I saw this hilarious cartoon...
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:10 PM
Mar 2013

It's an office. You can see the moon through the window behind the desk, so it's obviously very late. Sitting at the desk, tied to the chair and gagged, is some middle-aged, managerial type. He's clearly not going anywhere.

Nameplate on the desk: Godot.

Funny stuff.

 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
10. "THEY'RE COMING RIGHT AT US!"
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:27 PM
Mar 2013

"Just kidding."

"I'll take Ham on five, hold the Mayo."

"Excuse me stewardess. I speak jive."

"Do you like movies about gladiators?"

"I can make a hat, or a broach, or a teridactyl."

"Municipal bonds."

"Assume crash positions!"

"It's the little room in the front of the plane, but that's not important right now."

"Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"

"Seven. George Zip died this morning."

"There's a small inflation tube just below his belt."

"Do you have the vector Victor?"
"Roger, Roger."
"We have clearance, Clarence."

--
I love that movie.

 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
31. Haven't seen that one. With all of the video stores being defunct selections are rather limited.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

RedBox is okay, but they don't have all that many offerings and the machines are typically depleted by 5 p.m.

I preferred the video stores even though they costed more. At least there was a wide offering.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
32. I hear ya.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:48 PM
Mar 2013

It's probably on youtube by now.
Either in 10 minute chunks, or the full movie.
Watch it if you get a chance.
You won't regret it.

 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
36. I found trailers on YouTube but not the full movie. I don't do Netflix or similar.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 05:21 PM
Mar 2013

And I hate the 10 minute chunks. I got lucky a few years back and found the ENTIRE movie "The Wall" on YouTube. It's since been taken down, but I downloaded it to my machine. It's wide screen and very high quality.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
37. I've watched quite a few movies
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 05:24 PM
Mar 2013

in the chunks on youtube.
Some are fairly seemless, but others are so mangled as to be unwatchable.

It's probably available through Amazon or eBay.

 

bike man

(620 posts)
39. Have you tried your library for movies? Even though we live in a small town, we have
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 06:12 PM
Mar 2013

an excellent public library which has a huge selection of movies - some new, others quite old. For example, we watched "Pride of the Yankees" (made in 1942) last week. On DVD even.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
14. Did you ever watch the TV series Police Squad?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:42 PM
Mar 2013

The TV series, which ran for 6 obscure episodes, not the movies which were merely funny.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
16. It's from the mid eighties...
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:51 PM
Mar 2013

I haven't watched TV for decades either, except for DVD series.

But Police Squad came out in the mid 80's, right after Airplane, and it's exactly the same thing. It was totally straight-faced, like the movie, and done by the same people (Zucker Bros, Leslie Nielsen). TV audiences just don't have the same attention span that movie audiences do. You'll love it.

"How did you figure it out, Frank?"

"Oh, just a hunch, back at the office"

"I thought as much, and I brought that hunchback with me". Frank shakes hands with hunchback.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
18. No, a TV series.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:07 PM
Mar 2013

No, it really was a TV series that ran for 6 of the lowest rated episodes in TV history. It parodied Quin Martin Production TV shows like the Streets of San Francisco the way Airplane parodied Airport disaster movies.

It was a flop because there was no laugh track and it was done totally straight, with the same hyper-literalism of Airplane, milking every cliche of the genre.

It was revived several years later as the Naked Gun movies, but those weren't nearly as brilliant as the TV series

You literally notice something new every time you watch it.

Here's the first episode:

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
29. I remember and love that show.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:18 PM
Mar 2013

Saw all 6 episodes back when you had to actually be there when it was on. No DVR or video tapes for me back then!


Also, back to OP: No drinking? I am an atheist but no way I'd want to hang out in a crowded room full of 'em without some alcohol.

And they'd say the same about me.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
33. Whoa! Hold the phone there OG!
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:50 PM
Mar 2013

I never said nuthin about there not being no libations!

*take THAT! grammar nazis!*

I wholeheartedly encourage imbibing...
*looks around*
Ahem...in moderation, of course.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
34. lol, ok then - I'll come to YOUR branch
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:58 PM
Mar 2013

but not this guy's:


“You can spend all day in London not talking to anyone,” said Evans. “I think people really want somewhere they can go and meet other people, which doesn’t involve drinking and which you don’t have to pay to get into.”


(found about half way down the article)

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
35. LOL
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 05:04 PM
Mar 2013

Well, to be fair, according to some articles I've read, England does have a bit of a binge drinking problem at the moment.
So, maybe in their case, a respite from alcohol is a good thing.

But as for me.
I have no binge drinking problem at all.
I drink socially every day.

I drink VERY socially on weekends.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
8. When the Buddha taught 2500 years ago
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

he was insistent that he was not starting a new religion but rather freeing people from the current religion of his region - Hinduism. During his life, he never allowed the six hallmarks of a religion to define him or his teachings. Houston Smith says that all religions include six things - authority, tradition, mystery, grace, ritual and speculation. After he died, all bets were off, and much of Buddhism today does indeed have all of those six traits especially ones like Tibetan Tantra but not so much Theravadic.

His original teachings were instead empirical, psychological as opposed to metaphysical, scientific (for the time), pragmatic, therapeutic, individualistic, and egalitarian. Atheists today are much the same. They are freeing us yet again from the strictures of religion. Yet, a community is always important, and there is something psychological within the human animal which, no matter how hard it tries, always seems to create religion for itself.

Perhaps we are witnessing the start of the Atheist religion of the future? In 2500 years, it will have an authority, tradition, mystery, grace, ritual, and speculation as well.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
9. Whats the point?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:19 PM
Mar 2013

I always thought the great thing about not believing is not having to go to church. I have a cousin who is a fellow non believer and he asked if I would like to go to an atheist conference. I declined citing my enjoyment of lack or organization as a big draw for me. The whole group think thing is unappealing to me.

 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
44. Athiests deny the existance of gods. While I don't believe in them, I can neither prove or disprove.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 07:14 PM
Mar 2013

That makes me an agnostic. Perhaps gods exist, but I just don't buy it. I can't prove they don't, so I'm agnostic. But my belief is in the science behind the creation of the universe, not mythology. And frankly I think the science is wrong in a lot of ways. I'd have loved to have been alive to have gotten stoned with Einstein. Then again, I can't prove that he ever got stoned.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
13. The agnostics beat them to it, but were too apathetic to push it
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:37 PM
Mar 2013
http://apatheticagnostic.org/contents.html
WARNING
A caution to visitors


This site deals with the doctrine of Apathetic Agnosticism in a combination of total seriousness and sophomoric humour. It is up to you, the visitor, to determine which is which.

Once upon a time we used to advise visitors that if their personal religious sensibilities meant they would risk being offended by what is found here, then they should promptly press the BACK BUTTON on the browser and go somewhere else. This advice has generally been ignored, as evidenced by some of the mail we have received and by a few of the comments in the Visitor's Book (no longer available). So now, we invite you to enter the site and get totally offended.* Really, we don't care! Remember, if the views expressed herein offend you, it is highly probable that your own religious views offend us.

* If you are in a hurry to get offended, we invite you to read Reflection 6 in the Reflections on Ethics section under Essays.


Background to Apathetic Agnosticism

There are those that see agnosticism as only a way-station, an intermediate step for those still trying to decide whether to believe in God (or a god or gods) or to absolutely believe in no gods exist at all. Agnosticism is seen as a refuge for those who cannot make up their minds.

What this site seeks to illustrate is that agnosticism in itself is a legitimate end position in religious belief. We do not know because we cannot know. The ultimate truth about the existence of a Supreme Being is unknowable. Recognizing this, we can free ourselves from a fruitless search and indeed, no longer care about answering the question. This does not mean we don't care about agnosticism.

Our Articles of Faith

The existence of a Supreme Being is unknown and unknowable.

If there is a Supreme Being, then that being appears to act as if entirely apathetic to events in our universe.

We are apathetic to the existence or non-existence of a Supreme Being.

http://apatheticagnostic.org/ourchurch/intro.html

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
20. Damn lazy Agnostics!
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:12 PM
Mar 2013

And get off the fence why don'tcha!?!?!

Seriously though, they sound like my kinda peoples.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
21. I've been following the UCTAA for over a decade.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:34 PM
Mar 2013

The Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic (since it's too long to fit in the subject line) for a long time. Someday I might join, but I just haven't cared enough to do so.

If you use the Wayback Machine to find their early pages, their early essays are great. College humor, but reasonably considered. As time went by, they have gotten more in depth and more serious.

I like that they explain why deciding the existence/non-existence of a deity is more trouble than it's worth.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
22. I will have to check that site out later
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:05 PM
Mar 2013

"I like that they explain why deciding the existence/non-existence of a deity is more trouble than it's worth."

True, but it can be fun when trolling a rabid churchy.

*disclaimer*

I do not lump all religious folks into the rabid churchy category, as I have many many friends and relatives that are very religious, but not in everyones face about it.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
25. I just no longer have the energy to poke at religious types
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:37 PM
Mar 2013

The ones that get in my face about their religion I just do my best to avoid. Unfortunately I am descended from a long line of rabidly fundamentalist religious types. Fortunately, most of the worst have passed on to whatever reward/punishment/nothingness they might have reaped.

I do know people who are very religious but most of them are quite respectful of alternative beliefs. For instance in the one group I am active in, we have members who are conservative Anglican, Orthodox Jews, non-believers, and Baptists. We don't discuss beliefs, though we will talk about cultural activities of the various religions.

Locally, the various churches and groups are cooperating in promoting ethnic cultural celebrations: http://news.wfsu.org/post/perspectives-international-festivals I love that they are working together and not at odds. (A note - the page there has messed up links. Just copy the links and paste in your browser.)

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
26. I still do, though it is not as abundant as it once was
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:45 PM
Mar 2013

But when faced with willfully ignorant people that think the world is only 6000 years old and want to legislate their morality onto everyone else.
I can't help but confront and harshly ridicule them and their beliefs.

But you know, it really just all boils down to that one simple word, dunnit?

Respect.



siligut

(12,272 posts)
24. If you are oppressed by religious people . . .
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:27 PM
Mar 2013

It would help people band together against the brain-washed masses.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
27. Modern Ethical movement started around 1877.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:55 PM
Mar 2013

They established a-theistic institutions (ethical society, ethical humanist society, etc.) that still exist today and are essentially atheist 'churches'.

Bucky

(54,061 posts)
50. There used to be "Free Thought" churches all over America.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:48 PM
Mar 2013

They started to die out in the 1930s when people realized not believing in God meant they could stay home Sunday morning and read through the funnies at a leisurely pace. Sometimes the jokes in Blondie took a while to sink in.

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