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Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:57 PM Oct 2014

Insomnia Remedies

When I am having one of those nights where I can't sleep, I have found a rather strange ritual helps.

I get up get a glass of milk, two Peppridge Farm's Nantucket chocolate chip cookies, and then put in a DVD of How The Universe Works narrated by Mike Rowe.

Usually on those nights I am obsessing about how the world is going to hell in a hand basket so I guess having a soothing voice talking about things beyond the troubles of our planet comforts me in some way that helps.

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Insomnia Remedies (Original Post) Liberalynn Oct 2014 OP
I have learned that the best cure for insomnia is sleep. n/t malthaussen Oct 2014 #1
I'll have to try that Liberalynn Oct 2014 #2
Obama's voice always puts me to sleep. I start watching his speeches because I really DebJ Oct 2014 #3
The President does have Liberalynn Oct 2014 #4
Fingernails on a chalkboard, alright [shiver]. nt Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #24
Same here! femmocrat Oct 2014 #5
Yes, he has a soothing voice... betsuni Oct 2014 #43
Put on some FDR when you want to wake up! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #44
Problem is: I'd continue to eat the entire pkg of cookies. Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #6
Sometimes resisting having more cookies Liberalynn Oct 2014 #15
1. Liberal doses of Scotch whiskey. 2. A Charlie Chan movie. trof Oct 2014 #7
That sounds like a good combination. Liberalynn Oct 2014 #16
ASMR vids bigwillq Oct 2014 #8
I am so Liberalynn Oct 2014 #17
love love LOVE ASMR videos Skittles Oct 2014 #28
You are far from the only one! bigwillq Oct 2014 #29
have you noticed Skittles Oct 2014 #32
It IS real! bigwillq Oct 2014 #34
my fave is the Russian gal Maria Skittles Oct 2014 #36
She's great. bigwillq Oct 2014 #37
hey, nice! will bookmark Skittles Oct 2014 #39
Bob Ross was a legend. bigwillq Oct 2014 #41
Bob Ross is an awesome trigger! bigwillq Oct 2014 #30
I love this comment Skittles Oct 2014 #33
HA! So true! bigwillq Oct 2014 #35
I like melatonin... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2014 #9
I will have to look into that Liberalynn Oct 2014 #18
I asked my pharmacist, and he checked my list. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2014 #42
Thanks! Liberalynn Oct 2014 #48
I just started taking that. ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2014 #47
You could always watch the DVD of "Atlas Shrugged" Initech Oct 2014 #10
Don't want to have nightmares Liberalynn Oct 2014 #19
A golf tournament. Sienna86 Oct 2014 #11
The Golf Channel is in my cable package Liberalynn Oct 2014 #20
Agreed. The hushed voices, nothing exciting happening... 2theleft Oct 2014 #27
Hot milk, cinnamon and honey mixed together sakabatou Oct 2014 #12
I've heated the milk before Liberalynn Oct 2014 #21
It's very tasty sakabatou Oct 2014 #25
I tried Liberalynn Oct 2014 #49
Huzzuh! sakabatou Oct 2014 #57
I use about 10/12 oz of just under scalded half and half and a teaspoon of anise seed. haele Oct 2014 #58
The milk and anise sound good Liberalynn Oct 2014 #60
Poiroit movies. I have watched the first part of the same one vanlassie Oct 2014 #13
That's kind of how it is for Liberalynn Oct 2014 #22
Some Sunday morning we will have to knock back vanlassie Oct 2014 #40
That's a good idea Liberalynn Oct 2014 #50
I take Clonazepam which causes me to feel very sleepy. (From my Doc. Legally) BlueJazz Oct 2014 #14
I was on that legally once from my Doctor too. Liberalynn Oct 2014 #23
I take either ZZZ Quil or Unisom, Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #26
I have the rain app on my Kindle too. Liberalynn Oct 2014 #51
technical or other boring books, read in bed Kali Oct 2014 #31
it's probably not that great for you but Benadryl nirvana555 Oct 2014 #38
Just had to be on high doses of antihistamines Liberalynn Oct 2014 #54
Found sometimes to much sleep can make you groggy as well. Liberalynn Oct 2014 #52
heh, I fell asleep in class a lot Kali Oct 2014 #53
The summer between college and graduate school, I worked the graveyard shift Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2014 #45
Those are really great tips. Liberalynn Oct 2014 #55
milk has tryptophan BUT..... orleans Oct 2014 #46
That makes sense Liberalynn Oct 2014 #56
Tried a fan, but it was too cold in the Winter. bikebloke Oct 2014 #59
I love having the fan on in summer Liberalynn Oct 2014 #61

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
3. Obama's voice always puts me to sleep. I start watching his speeches because I really
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:11 PM
Oct 2014

want to hear what he has to say. But I always doze off... it's like my subconscious feels
he's 'got this' and I just doze off like a child being read a story by their father.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
4. The President does have
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:16 PM
Oct 2014

a comforting presence. Bush on the other hand contributed to my insomnia and gave me nightmares when I managed to sleep when he was in the oval office.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
5. Same here!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:24 PM
Oct 2014

His voice is very soothing and puts me right out. If I want to really focus on what he is saying, I take notes. LOL

betsuni

(25,514 posts)
43. Yes, he has a soothing voice...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:31 PM
Oct 2014

and for me so does Martha Stewart. I like to watch her old TV show. It is quiet there in Martha's tasteful kitchen, she speaks slowly and enunciates her words, everything is under control, everything is beautiful, nothing bad can happen there.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
6. Problem is: I'd continue to eat the entire pkg of cookies.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:29 PM
Oct 2014

Other than that it's great advice. (I also watch "How the Universe Works" while falling asleep.)

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
15. Sometimes resisting having more cookies
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:26 PM
Oct 2014

is hard. HTUW is a great program. I like all the physicists they have on there too. Glad they got Rowe back as the narrator. The one last year was okay but he's better, IMHO.

trof

(54,256 posts)
7. 1. Liberal doses of Scotch whiskey. 2. A Charlie Chan movie.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:29 PM
Oct 2014

I love Charlie Chan movies.
Warner Oland or Sidney Toler, it doesn't matter.
If I start to watch one much past 7 p.m. it's impossible for me to stay awake until the end.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chan

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
17. I am so
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:30 PM
Oct 2014

grateful that someone invented vids and dads. That way you can still watch the things that give you comfort at any time of the night or day.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
28. love love LOVE ASMR videos
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:37 PM
Oct 2014

I had long wondered if I was the only one with that "sensation" (remember Bob Ross? omg)

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
29. You are far from the only one!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:40 PM
Oct 2014

The ASMR community is strong, and growing!

There's been a few segments/articles about ASMR in some mainstream news publications recently.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
32. have you noticed
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:42 PM
Oct 2014

the authors never seem to experience ASMR themselves? We don't wonder whether or not it's a real thing - we know it is

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
37. She's great.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:46 PM
Oct 2014

But I trigger more to male voices.

Charlie AKA TheLyricalWhispers is my fave, and this is my fave vid ever.


Skittles

(153,160 posts)
39. hey, nice! will bookmark
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:53 PM
Oct 2014

not sure anyone could top Bob Ross (I never had a bit of interest in painting but taped his shows because he was better than valium for relaxing) but I'll check it out

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
30. Bob Ross is an awesome trigger!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:41 PM
Oct 2014

For me, other triggers include when someone touches/crinkles wax paper, and I love Doctor Role Play vids!

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
33. I love this comment
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:43 PM
Oct 2014

"I could explain getting caught watching porn easier than I can explain getting caught watching someone folding towels."

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
18. I will have to look into that
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:33 PM
Oct 2014

to see if it conflicts with any of the meds I am on, if not maybe I can try it.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,614 posts)
42. I asked my pharmacist, and he checked my list.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:56 PM
Oct 2014

He said it's pretty safe, which is why it's OTC. I've taken it several times, and have had no problems with it.

Good luck!

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
47. I just started taking that.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:07 AM
Oct 2014

I feel like I am going into more REM cycles, but I do wake up for just a minute or two a few times throughout the night and fall right back to sleep. I do feel more rested when I take it.

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
27. Agreed. The hushed voices, nothing exciting happening...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:37 PM
Oct 2014

My boyfriend turns on golf, I'm asleep in 10 minutes tops! I wish they golfed at night!

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
21. I've heated the milk before
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:39 PM
Oct 2014

but I have never tried it with cinnamon and honey. I will definitely have to though. It sounds good.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
49. I tried
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:50 PM
Oct 2014

this last night although with just the cinnamon because I was out of honey. It was good and I actually did manage to fall asleep earlier and stay asleep till morning.

haele

(12,652 posts)
58. I use about 10/12 oz of just under scalded half and half and a teaspoon of anise seed.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:03 PM
Oct 2014

and maybe, just maybe, a half teaspoon of sweetner or Torani syrup (the peanut-butter syrup is really good with the anise). No chocolate. About 4 oz. is all that is needed to put my three year old grand-daughter to sleep when she wants to stay up and up and up...

Occasionally, I'd add a quarter teaspoon of powdered ginger if I'm also feeling a bit off and gassy. Cinnamon tends to give me a shot of energy, otherwise, I'd go ahead and use

The half and half give the drink a creamy texture that is very, very comforting.

BTW, the scalded milk and anise seed is an old 17th cent. simple sleeping aid drink for kids. For an "unquiet mind" the reason that is keeping you awake, you're supposed to add a pinch of ground and dried valarian root (which tastes like old sock, and causes weird, vivid dreams) or cat-mint.


Haele

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
13. Poiroit movies. I have watched the first part of the same one
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:03 PM
Oct 2014

for years. No idea how it ends. I think it's the music.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
22. That's kind of how it is for
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:41 PM
Oct 2014

me with How The Universe Works. I know how all the episodes start but I don't think I've ever stayed awake through a whole episode.

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
40. Some Sunday morning we will have to knock back
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:53 PM
Oct 2014

a couple strong coffees and try to hang in there for the end!

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
50. That's a good idea
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:54 PM
Oct 2014

My sister said she wondered how the casts and crews would feel if they knew people were using their programs as a sleep aids.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
14. I take Clonazepam which causes me to feel very sleepy. (From my Doc. Legally)
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:12 PM
Oct 2014

On Edit:Been taking it for years. No side affects ..for me.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
23. I was on that legally once from my Doctor too.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:44 PM
Oct 2014

I was switched to Hydroxizine a few years back for anxiety. It helps me relax a bit but it doesn't really make me sleepy.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
31. technical or other boring books, read in bed
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:42 PM
Oct 2014

I rarely have insomnia - in fact the opposite is my problem. Trying to stay awake until an "adult" bedtime. LOL

If I go to bed too early then I will have a period of wakefulness around 2 and that is when the boring book helps.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
54. Just had to be on high doses of antihistamines
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:08 PM
Oct 2014

for an unrelenting case of the hives. I am off them now except for hydroxizine and knock on wood, the hives are gone now.

I asked the immunologist if there was any problems with using them long term and he said in his opinion not really. Their only issue with Benadryl was they said it makes you more drowsy than the others, but that's a good thing when you are using it specifically as a sleep aid.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
52. Found sometimes to much sleep can make you groggy as well.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:59 PM
Oct 2014

I should pull out some of my old college textbooks. One of the reasons I started putting documentaries on at t.v. at night is because they used to make me fall asleep in class.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
53. heh, I fell asleep in class a lot
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:05 PM
Oct 2014

but it was usually due to the "not sleeping" activities of the nights before

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
45. The summer between college and graduate school, I worked the graveyard shift
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:59 PM
Oct 2014

in a local factory and got home at 8:30AM, just as the rest of the family was eating breakfast. Then I was supposed to go to sleep. In the summer. In bright sunlight. I was tired at the end of the shift, but it was difficult.

I found that the perfect combination was soft classical music and a dull book. I knew I would have to pass French and German reading exams in my first year of grad school, so I started reading a history of philosophy in German (I had studied it for four years in college) and trying to actually understand it. I never lasted more than two pages, and I never finished the book.

Years later, I found out that I would have thirty days to vacate the house I was living in, because the owner wanted it back, so all the tenants would have to move out. After that bombshell, I was a nervous wreck, because I knew that the Portland rental market was tight, and I barely slept that night.

The following evening, I met a friend for dinner and the ballet, and the soup of the day at the restaurant happened to be cream of turkey. Not being very hungry, I had just a large soup and some bread.

I made it home from the ballet, but I could barely stay awake long enough to put myself to bed. That night, I had the vivid dreams that typically end a period of insomnia for me.

Now if I'm having trouble sleeping for more than one night, I make turkey stroganoff with plenty of sour cream for dinner and then pick out a dull book to read.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
55. Those are really great tips.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:18 PM
Oct 2014

In high-school normally I actually liked reading the classic books but for some reason I couldn't make it through more than a few pages at a time of the Grapes of Wrath before falling asleep.

My mother even found the movie version on TV and said here you can "cheat" because I'm your witness that you've tried to read it. I fell asleep fifteen minutes into the movie. The teacher was disappointed in me, because she wanted me to like all the classic novels, but I didn't get in trouble.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
46. milk has tryptophan BUT.....
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:51 AM
Oct 2014

"Question: For years, I've had a glass of warm milk to help me fall asleep. I think it works as well as a sleeping pill, but it's a lot safer and is natural - which I like. Is it the tryptophan in the milk that causes me to feel sleepy?

"Answer: Warm milk at bedtime definitely can have a calming effect, but despite popular belief, it's probably not caused by the effect of the amino acid tryptophan on the brain. In order for tryptophan or any sleep-promoting drug to work, it must cross the "blood-brain barrier" and get from the bloodstream into the brain tissue. It turns out that all the other amino acids that collectively make up milk protein block the amino acid tryptophan from getting into the brain.

"The "trick," researchers say, is to have a high-carbohydrate food just before drinking milk - like cookies or toast. Just remember to brush your teeth before going to bed! Carbs cause a spike in your insulin level, and that seems to make it somewhat easier for tryptophan to cross into the brain. Without that carb snack, the sedating effect of warm milk is probably due to the calming influence of a warm liquid and a belief in its results (i.e., a placebo effect)."
http://articles.philly.com/2011-11-28/news/30450609_1_tryptophan-brain-tissue-placebo-effect

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
56. That makes sense
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:21 PM
Oct 2014

about the milk being a placebo. But I never would have guessed that the cookies were playing a legitimate role.

bikebloke

(5,260 posts)
59. Tried a fan, but it was too cold in the Winter.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:13 PM
Oct 2014

So recently I bought a white noise generator. That works and I can turn the volume up if the neighbours wind chimes (bells, really) grow too rambunctious.

Sometimes melatonin works for me, sometimes not.

Also, the light from computer screen can throw your circadian rhythm off. I tried a free app called f.lux that turns the computer light an orange-ish hue as the sun sets. I seem to fall a sleep easier with it.

But if I'm stressed - like yesterday - none of works. Zombie day right now.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
61. I love having the fan on in summer
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:22 PM
Oct 2014

but you're right this time of year you need an alternative. Sorry you are having a Zombie day.

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