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liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:36 PM Feb 2015

Is it just me, or is Neil Patrick Harris really blowing it as Oscar host?

I'm fifty years old and have never missed an Oscar program since I was a child, even if I've hardly seen any of the movies (which is the case this year, as I live on a remote rural Indian reservation hours from a decent movie theater). It was also something I always shared with my mother and stepfather; it's especially poignant this year since my stepdad died four weeks ago tonight after a long battle with Lewy Body Dementia. We were both wannabe writers and actors (never making it past the local stage, though) .

So I've seen some great hosts, some mediocre hosts, some cringing, what-the-hell-were-they-thinking hosts. To me, the best, so far, has been Billy Crystal. His unique creativity regarding the nominated movies and quick-thinking wit that was able to respond with ease to what was happening throughout the evening kept things moving and interesting.

So, I'm sorry, I love Neil Patrick Harris, but he's really sucking and falling flat so far, and it is boring, boring, boing. I realize what a tough, thankless job it is, so I'm cutting him some slack, but shit. I'm almost ready to turn it off, which I usually don't do. And why does everyone sound so stiff and wooden? Or am I just being an elitist Oscar snob?

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Is it just me, or is Neil Patrick Harris really blowing it as Oscar host? (Original Post) liberalhistorian Feb 2015 OP
kind of agree - he has been great on the Tonys rurallib Feb 2015 #1
I just saw that underwear bit. liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #3
I thought the opening was fantastic. bigwillq Feb 2015 #2
The opening number was good, I agree. liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #4
The "White" joke at the beginning set the tone. Lochloosa Feb 2015 #5
The Polish foreign film director tavernier Feb 2015 #6
Despite his underwear trick, liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #7
I love you. I don't see movies but love the Academies. I think it's because UTUSN Feb 2015 #8
I love him, too. KMOD Feb 2015 #9
They have, indeed, and liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #11
There is something strange. It's like no one got over the tribute section. Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #10
And his whole bit about liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #12
Agree completely. I remember watching with my folks and were they LuckyLib Feb 2015 #14
Bad, bad writing. hunter Feb 2015 #13
He was, indeed! liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #17
I have always thought someone likfe Letterman, Leno, Conan or, Craig Ferguson Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #15
I don't know how Leno, Conan or Ferguson would do, liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #16
1995... I don't know why they call it gold standard of bombing jakeXT Feb 2015 #18
He ticked off Oprah Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2015 #22
Franco looked like he was perpetually liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #35
Yeah, that whole "Oprah, Uma" thing liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #36
I watched Craig Ferguson host a Game of Thrones Comic Con panel recently, he was good. jakeXT Feb 2015 #19
I thought Ellen did a great job last year. One of the reason this year feels so flat. Fla Dem Feb 2015 #20
It was my understanding that they wanted Jimmy Fallon Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2015 #23
I can see where both Fallon and Kimmel liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #34
I suspect they'll try someone else next year.... Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2015 #21
NPH was not in his milieu last night. His work is on Broadway, he knows everyone and knows what monmouth4 Feb 2015 #28
Ellen was good Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2015 #30
See, that's what I thought was happening with him last night. liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #33
That's how I saw it too. He's an exceptional talent, this just wasn't his gig...n/t monmouth4 Feb 2015 #37
I've always liked him best... sendero Feb 2015 #24
the underwear was just ridiculous grasswire Feb 2015 #25
It was a take-off on a scene from Birdman Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #26
ah okay grasswire Feb 2015 #27
I can imagine! Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #29
Yes, for those of us liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #31
I wouldn't go so far as to say offensive, liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #32
loved billy crystal & ellen hopemountain Feb 2015 #38

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
1. kind of agree - he has been great on the Tonys
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:43 PM
Feb 2015

at least a couple of times.
I was kind of wondering if he had writers that sucked.

BTW - I go back to the Bob Hope days. To me Hope has always been the standard by which others are judged.
And now he is in his underwear? Maybe he can salvage it yet.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
3. I just saw that underwear bit.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:49 PM
Feb 2015

I admit, that is pretty daring.

I think part of the problem is that the Tonys are different from the Oscars and he's trying to fit a square peg into around hole. Kinda like why David Letterman didn't work, he was used to a different format.

Yes, I've seen films of Bob Hope hosting, he really was something else.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
4. The opening number was good, I agree.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:51 PM
Feb 2015

But he's gone rapidly downhill since. And this has been really boring so far.

They'd better do a major tribute to Robin Williams, too.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
7. Despite his underwear trick,
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:19 PM
Feb 2015

he just continues to slide rapidly downhill, as does the show generally. Why is this so boring? By now, they'd have had at least one special program/presentation, and there's been nothing. And why do they have to group all the boring awards together every year? Maybe it's me, but this year's program is really disappointing so far.

And even the closed captioning is way off this year (I'm hearing-impaired, so I use that feature). Usually the CC is behind on live programs, but this year it's really behind, by a couple minutes. Really annoying. Maybe that's why I'm so grumpy about the program right now, lol.

UTUSN

(70,691 posts)
8. I love you. I don't see movies but love the Academies. I think it's because
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:19 PM
Feb 2015

I want to see the fake people having their reality moments.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
9. I love him, too.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:40 PM
Feb 2015

But yeah, the monologue is strange.

It's not just him though, the presenters have been rather flat as well.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
11. They have, indeed, and
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:56 PM
Feb 2015

I wonder what that's all about. I've not quite seen it like this for a long time.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
12. And his whole bit about
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:10 AM
Feb 2015

his Oscar predictions and guarding the briefcase is really awkward and cringeworthy. Just did not compute. I love NPH, but he really, really sucked.

This has been the most painfully boring Oscars in many, many, many years. No special programs or presentations, flat, wooden presenters, etc. Even the memorial tribute section was bitterly disappointing. We lost so many good, influential people and old actors this year that they should have had a more detailed tribute to them. Especially Robin Williams. And they even left out Joan Rivers? Seriously?

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
17. He was, indeed!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:05 AM
Feb 2015

I loved that movie, which was the only one I was able to see and hubby and I had to make a six-hour round trip to be able to see it (we live on a remote Indian reservation so there are obviously no theaters around here, the nearest ones are hours away).

I'm one of those "different" people who suffered horribly from depression as a teenager due to bullying because of it and I've never quite "fit in" with any crowd; I'm constantly hearing about how "weird" I am even now, at fifty years old. So I loved what he said and he's absolutely right. And it's those "different" people who often move society forward culturally, socially, artistically, scientifically, etc. Like Alan Turing himself. Unfortunately, it's often recognized too late for the person who's made the accomplishments.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
16. I don't know how Leno, Conan or Ferguson would do,
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:01 AM
Feb 2015

but I do remember that Letterman really bombed when he hosted; I think it was sometime in the 90's. What worked for his show and its format just did not work for the Oscars and it was almost painful to watch him, because I really liked him and his show (still do). His whole "Uma, Oprah" schtick was cringeworthingly bad and I'm still scratching my head over that one.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
18. 1995... I don't know why they call it gold standard of bombing
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:30 AM
Feb 2015


But the gold standard of Oscar bombing remains David Letterman, whose notorious turn as host is now 20 years old. In 1995, the late-night host was at the peak of his career. His Late Show, which debuted on CBS two years before, was wildly popular, consistently beating NBC's Tonight Show, hosted by Letterman's bitter rival Jay Leno, in the ratings. But almost from the minute the Oscars began, it became clear that it wasn't going to be Dave's night

Noting an aural similarity between the names of two prominent female celebrities, Dave launched into a trance-like routine. "Oprah. Uma. Oprah. Uma. Oprah. Uma. Have you kids met Keanu?" Few laughed. And then things got worse. Jokes about Tim Robbins and Arnold Schwarzenegger landed with a thud, and attempts to graft popular bits from the Late Show—like the "Top 10" list—didn't work.

The critical reception was savage. The New York Times accused Letterman of leaving the show's "pacing in shambles," and added that "glamorous people waiting for awards announcements aren't terribly interested in New York City cabdrivers or stupid-pet tricks."

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/02/the-night-david-letterman-bombed-the-oscars/385738/

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
22. He ticked off Oprah
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:01 PM
Feb 2015

The NY/LA thing wasn't an issue with Crystal. The Oprah/Uma joke ticked off Oprah, and the press swarmed. I actually thought he did OK.

I thought Hathaway did fine, but her partner, James Franco, was the gold standard of bombing, IMO.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
35. Franco looked like he was perpetually
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:05 PM
Feb 2015

riding on the Pineapple Express, the whole night (when he co-hosted). Which he very well might have been.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
36. Yeah, that whole "Oprah, Uma" thing
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:09 PM
Feb 2015

really made me cringe and I was embarrassed for him. I don't know what he was thinking with that. He did, however, have a great sense of self-deprecating humor about it, though, to his great credit. A few years later, when Billy Crystal again hosted, Crystal did a schtick in the beginning where he was "worried" that he wouldn't do as well as past hosts and wanted to get some tips from other hosts. So suddenly here came Dave in a biplane (can't remember now if it was a film or really live on stage), wishing him good luck and telling him "don't forget to introduce Uma to Oprah and Oprah to Uma". That got a lot more laughs than Letterman did the entire night he hosted. He could have been a lot more arrogant about it.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
19. I watched Craig Ferguson host a Game of Thrones Comic Con panel recently, he was good.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:38 AM
Feb 2015

But one actress mentioned she felt at one time during it, that he hadn't seen the show.





Fla Dem

(23,666 posts)
20. I thought Ellen did a great job last year. One of the reason this year feels so flat.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:10 AM
Feb 2015

She's a hard act to follow in terms of expectations.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
23. It was my understanding that they wanted Jimmy Fallon
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:04 PM
Feb 2015

You might remember that Johnny Carson hosted for many years, and I think the Academy sees Fallon as a similar kind of host. However, ABC (who seemingly didn't have a problem with Carson) objects to Fallon because they now have their own dog, Jimmy Kimmel, in the late night fight. I think Kimmel would be a good host, but his after-Oscar show has become sort of a tradition, and I think ABC doesn't want to give that up.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
34. I can see where both Fallon and Kimmel
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:03 PM
Feb 2015

would be great choices. Hey, maybe they can co-host it! Now THAT would likely be popcorn-worthy.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
21. I suspect they'll try someone else next year....
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:58 AM
Feb 2015

Colbert, Jimmy Fallon...someone along that line. My daughter (who, in fairness, thought NPH would do great) thinks Mindy Kaling would be a good choice. Eddie Murphy, who is older, wiser, and mellower, might also be a good pick.

As a contrast, Fey and Poehler may host the Golden Globes for the rest of time.

NPH had very high expectations, given his work on the Tony's. I agree that he fell flat last night. Not horrid, but not a huge improvement over other recent hosts.

monmouth4

(9,700 posts)
28. NPH was not in his milieu last night. His work is on Broadway, he knows everyone and knows what
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:16 PM
Feb 2015

they expect. Hollywood is a different animal altogether. The hosts I've watched over the years could not compare to Ellen. She was fabulous...

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
30. Ellen was good
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:50 PM
Feb 2015

Chris Rock did a decent job. Whoopi was OK. I liked Anne Hathaway - James Franco not-so-much.

If NPH was given a second year, I'd bet that he'd improve -- but that's not what the Oscars do.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
33. See, that's what I thought was happening with him last night.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:02 PM
Feb 2015

He was really good with the Tonys, but that's a different show altogether from the Oscars, with a very different audience. And frankly, most Americans don't watch or pay attention to the Tonys (unfortunately), unlike the Oscars.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
24. I've always liked him best...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:25 PM
Feb 2015

.... in small doses. Like the Harold and Kumar movie.

I think he was the main reason I stopped giving a hoot about How I Met Your Mother His schtick just gets old fast.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
25. the underwear was just ridiculous
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:06 PM
Feb 2015

Step back and think about it. A formal event, with ostensibly serious awards for the film industry, and he can only think of going out in his underwear? In what universe is that acceptable?

It was a weak ploy and I found it offensive.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
26. It was a take-off on a scene from Birdman
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:14 PM
Feb 2015

where Michael Keaton gets locked out of the theater, his robe stuck in the door, and he walks through Time Square in his underwear to get back into the theater.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
31. Yes, for those of us
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:00 PM
Feb 2015

who hadn't seen the movie, we aren't going to know that it was a play on one of the scenes. That's one of the things that Crystal was so good at, playing on the nominated movie scenes but doing it in a way that you'd find it funny even if you hadn't seen the movie.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
38. loved billy crystal & ellen
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:34 PM
Feb 2015

neil p.h. is awkward and his attempts at rude humor all fell flat. wrong audience.

and i want to say something about the issue of whiteness - his jokes & pokes at oprah and octavia spencer were like poking at a very sore, infected scar. very uncomfortable and rude. they did not "lighten" the issue nor the mood. also, the attempt at flinging every dark skinned person onto the stage for anything but an oscar is unforgivable. however, kudos to mr. iñárritu who gracefully, courageously & respectfully made the most of his moment when addressing the immigration issue on behalf of his compadres & comadres.

the performance of 'glory' and address by common and john legend were powerful and unforgettable. especially, when they both addressed the issues of all biases towards all persons no matter their walk in life - an american future we can not only imagine - but make happen.

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