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brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:19 PM Nov 2015

Visitors can now take a London tour in a bullet and bomb-proof TANK




Tourists can now go on the safest sightseeing trip in Britain - by riding around London in a tank.
For £1,500, two people will be able to take in the capital's world-famous sites without having to worry about anything at all, because they're riding in comfort inside a former British Army self-propelled gun.

The Abbot, a 17-tonne self-propelled gun, is now available for hire - driven by Tanks a Lot owner Nick Mead.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3310328/That-s-one-way-battle-congestion-Visitors-London-tour-bullet-bomb-proof-TANK-afford-1-500-ticket.html#ixzz3rJJQUxRa
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Visitors can now take a London tour in a bullet and bomb-proof TANK (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2015 OP
bomb proof? Not necessarily, depending on size and if it's a shaped charge. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #1
Ah, the things I would have given to be able to have three lovely ladies on board my tank. Aristus Nov 2015 #2
You are handsome! redwitch Nov 2015 #12
You wanna... Aristus Nov 2015 #13
in London? redwitch Nov 2015 #15
Sure! Aristus Nov 2015 #16
Indeed! redwitch Nov 2015 #17
I actually loved the closed-in space of the tank. Aristus Nov 2015 #18
Oh dear! redwitch Nov 2015 #19
The tank had what is called an overpressure system. Aristus Nov 2015 #20
An unnecessary luxury? redwitch Nov 2015 #21
It wasn't a matter of affording them. Aristus Nov 2015 #22
I get that it's a logistical nightmare. redwitch Nov 2015 #23
Eh. You can get used to anything. Aristus Nov 2015 #24
Yeah I would have been a terrible soldier. redwitch Nov 2015 #25
Nah. My unit never got into combat. The ground war was over so quickly. Aristus Nov 2015 #26
Fortunate for you and your unit. redwitch Nov 2015 #27
Me too... Aristus Nov 2015 #28
And who's going to pay for all the asphalt those treads are going to chew up? NV Whino Nov 2015 #3
My first thought too nt uriel1972 Nov 2015 #7
looks like the treads are rubberised BlueCollar Nov 2015 #9
I wondered about that, but couldn't tell for sure. NV Whino Nov 2015 #11
Tanks are less harmful to the ground than cars jmowreader Nov 2015 #30
Thanks for the info NV Whino Nov 2015 #32
Or anywhere else, for that matter jmowreader Nov 2015 #33
You can also do it in a London Taxi for about a tenth the price DFW Nov 2015 #4
Another Wretched Excess trof Nov 2015 #5
Michael Dukakis is totally going to London! KamaAina Nov 2015 #6
Well, they certainly are not bullet-proof Tipperary Nov 2015 #8
"Why?" was my immediate question as well - what's the connection or attraction petronius Nov 2015 #14
What's the connection of Branson, MO, to Duck Boats? jmowreader Nov 2015 #31
Go for a tour in an open topped double decker bus instead T_i_B Nov 2015 #10
Probably gets better MPG than some of the yellow ribbon bedecked behemoths I see around. kairos12 Nov 2015 #29
i am in red texas and i haven't BlueCollar Nov 2015 #34

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
2. Ah, the things I would have given to be able to have three lovely ladies on board my tank.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

Instead of the three hairy, ugly men I had to serve with...



This is me on the right - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
17. Indeed!
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:16 PM
Nov 2015

Truthfully the claustrophobia would get me. I don't know how anyone serves in a tank or a sub. Or a space capsule!

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
18. I actually loved the closed-in space of the tank.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:58 PM
Nov 2015

Not necessarily sharing it with a group of three squabbling guys, mind you. But I liked it. In the Gulf, we spent an entire training day buttoned up in the tank (all the hatches closed) to get used to the idea that we might have to stay like that for days in a combat situation. I did the whole day standing on my head; it was nothing.

When I was a little kid, and I got out of control, my mother used to lock me in their closet till I calmed down. My Dad kept his Army duffle bag in there, and there was a light coming in under the door, so I wasn't scared. I used to lie down on the duffle bag and go to sleep. Great upbringing for a tanker.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
19. Oh dear!
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

How hot does it get in a tank with all the hatches closed? I definitely couldn't make the cut. You guys are crazy!

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
20. The tank had what is called an overpressure system.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:23 PM
Nov 2015

In order to keep out contaminants in the event of a chemical or biological weapons attack, the system increased the air pressure inside the tank. The system came with little plastic vests for us to wear, and it would blow cool air on us. We could hook our gas masks up to the system, and it would blow cool air on our faces, too. So a hot day inside the tank was usually much better than a hot day outside the tank.

Although this may sound like an unnecessary luxury to the civilian, anything that reduced crew fatigue was an asset in combat situations.

But yes, tankers are crazy...

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
21. An unnecessary luxury?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

Not to this civilian! In fact, the gift boxes we were sending to the troops with little things like deodorant and soap made me angry. We can't afford basic grooming items with the size of our military budget? Grrr!

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
22. It wasn't a matter of affording them.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:31 PM
Nov 2015

It's just that there aren't any Target stores in the middle of the Arabian desert. At least, there weren't any when I was there. And the Army's logistics and supply units were more concerned with delivering ammo, fuel, food and water (and mail, by the way) than hygiene products.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
23. I get that it's a logistical nightmare.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:41 PM
Nov 2015

Bad enough being in a desert war but a desert war with no deodorant has to be worse. Especially for 4 smelly guys in a tank with the windows closed! War is Hell.

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
24. Eh. You can get used to anything.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:45 PM
Nov 2015

We actually had showers at our base camp. Plywood, outdoor, pull-chain showers. So we could get clean every couple of days, if we wanted to. Here's the thing, though: it gets cold in the desert, especially at night. Not everybody knows that. So if you take a morning shower after a freezing-cold night, it can be very uncomfortable...

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
25. Yeah I would have been a terrible soldier.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

I don't suppose those pull chain showers had hot water. Solar powered maybe? A freezing cold shower in the desert during the day works though. If only you weren't busy warring and stuff.

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
26. Nah. My unit never got into combat. The ground war was over so quickly.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

I'm cool with that. My father saw combat in Vietnam, and he said it's nothing you ever want to see up close again.

My veteran status is solid, though. We took hostile fire. Our base was Scudded once. Missed us by a good quarter mile or so. But we had to spend the next hour or so in chemical protective gear in case there were chemical weapons on board the missile. There weren't...

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
30. Tanks are less harmful to the ground than cars
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:19 PM
Nov 2015

A tracked vehicle weighs many tons, but the weight is spread out over the entire surface area of the tracks. This is called "ground pressure."

Here is a table of ground pressures for various vehicles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_pressure

As you will see, the ground pressure of an Abrams Tank (15psi) is lower than the ground pressure of a car (30 psi), a bicycle (40 psi) or Kim Kardashian in a pair of 1/4"-diameter stiletto heels (roughly 1100 psi).

Combat vehicles have rubber pads on the tracks, and they're inspected and changed frequently.

DFW

(54,384 posts)
4. You can also do it in a London Taxi for about a tenth the price
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 07:06 PM
Nov 2015

Just in case the tank is outside your budget.

Although if you intend to demolish any buildings in the course of your tour, you're pretty much stuck with the tank........

petronius

(26,602 posts)
14. "Why?" was my immediate question as well - what's the connection or attraction
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

of a tank ride on a city street? For London, I could see big red bus, black cab, classic limo, carriage - but a tank?

It probably would be fun to ride in a tank in an off-road setting (or a demolition derby), however...

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
31. What's the connection of Branson, MO, to Duck Boats?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:21 PM
Nov 2015

None, but that didn't stop someone from setting up a Duck Boat business there, and getting filthy rich on it in the process.

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