How long before Trump is impeached by the House & convicted by the Senate?

[red dog 1]

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	Trump will be impeached within three months
	2 (5%)
	Trump will be impeached within six months
	4 (10%)
	Trump will be impeached within nine months
	2 (5%)
	Trump will be impeached within one year
	9 (23%)
	Trump will be impeached within two years
	4 (10%)
	Trump will be impeached within three years
	3 (8%)
	Trump will be impeached within four years
	0 (0%)
	Trump will never be impeached
	15 (38%)
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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Do you mean just impeached; that is,

articles of impeachment are drawn up by the House and sent to the Senate; or do you mean that he is impeached by the House, and then also convicted by the Senate and removed from office? Just an impeachment isn't much use unless his flabby old orange ass is also kicked out of the White House.

[red dog 1]

3. Thanks for that.

I changed the question.

[Mz Pip]

2. It won't happen

As long as the Republicans control Congress they will prop him up.

They don't seem to be will to oppose his unqualified Cabinet picks, so Impeachment is even less likely to occur.

[red dog 1]

5. It's possible that he will be so unpopular by the time the 2018 Congressional elections roll around

that the Dems will take control of Congress.

Remember, he's a lying, cheating, asshole who will probably try to drastically cut Social Security and Medicaid, and privatize Medicare, among other horrible things.

[TexasBushwhacker]

31. That's what I was thinking

I'm hoping we make big gains in the House and flip the Senate in 2018.

[red dog 1]

32. With Trump as POTUS,, anything's possible in 2018

Although it'll be an uphill battle in both the House and Senate
(Dems have many more Senate seats to defend in 2018 than do the Repukes)

[ginnyinWI]

9. no I don't think that's a given.

As long as he is their useful idiot, he stays. When he becomes too hard to handle or unpredictable, he will be skating on thin ice. They would prefer a predictable Pence.

Right now they still have high hopes of the first scenario, the useful idiot. Just butter him up and he's like putty.

[red dog 1]

13. I agree

[Grammy23]

49. My thoughts exactly.

As long as Priebus and Ryan can get what they want out of him (signatures) and catapulting the propaganda, they will let him stay and just look the other way when he makes stupid or thoughtless tweets.

As soon as the get their bucket list done, out he goes. They really, really never liked him in the first place. Pence is their Ace in the Hole if tRump gets tired of playing President or it interferes with his golf or pussy grabbing.

[jmowreader]

10. Remember a congresscritter's priorities

Priority 1: retaining their seats
Priority 2: taking care of their donors
Priority 3: taking care of their constituents

"You get rid of HIM or we will get rid of YOU" heard by enough senators and representatives will cause fingers to fly over typewriter keyboards - the Russians can hack into a computer but it's a little harder to hack into an old manual typewriter - cranking out an impeachment charge sheet quicker than you can say "treasonous asshole."

[red dog 1]

14. + 1

[NNadir]

58. Predicting what won't happen where Trump is concerned is...

...not a good idea.

He is incompetent and weaker than he thinks he is. People who don't know their weaknesses generally fail, and, where they have great responsibility, fail greatly.

I wouldn't assume that the Republicans actually either like or respect him. They have not been protectionists or isolationists in general, and believe it or not, there are some, a minority perhaps, who actually love their country more than their power.

This minority of republicans, those who actually love their country more than graft and power, coupled with the minority Democrats in Congress, might actually drive this oppressive fool from office.

[Dave Starsky]

66. He's in for it for as long as he wants the job.

Whether that's two weeks or 20 years. Fortunately, he already looks like shit, so he probably won't live very long.

[briv1016]

4. Impeachment is messy and would make all republicans look bad.

Far easier to neutralize him and blame it on "undesirables." They may even be able to make him into a martyr.

[red dog 1]

6. "Far easier to neutralize him"?

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I don't agree.

In fact, I find your comment a little creepy.

I find no humor at all in that type of comment.

[briv1016]

7. Really? I figured the whole martyr thing kind of clarified it.

[jmowreader]

15. "Neutralize" doesn't necessarily mean "kill"

All they have to do to neutralize Trump is to not send him anything he's willing to sign, or just do what Congress does so well and not send him anything at all. Congress has a 93-percent reelection rating; as long as they don't thoroughly piss their constituents off (by letting Trump actually accomplish his campaign platform, say) they'll be fine.

[red dog 1]

16. Good point!

However, when you have the Speaker of the House (Eddie Munster) just dying to privatize Medicare & drastically cut Medicaid & Social Security, I think there will be plenty of bills sent over to the Senate, where The Turtle will see that they are passed and sent on to Trump to sign into law.

And, of course, there will be plenty of other ultra-conservative, anti-middle-class bills sent by Congress to the White House for Twitler to sign into law.

At this point, I don't see anything getting in the way of Trump's evil agenda..not even Congress.

[jmowreader]

18. As of right now, you're correct

Problem is, the really nefarious shit Trump has done is currently being called "fake news." (Which is the new name for the so-called liberal media.) When it becomes "real news" - and it will - they won't have a choice but to shut him down.

[red dog 1]

21. By the way, the DUer I was responding to used "neutralize" in a different way than your definition.

He/she made that very clear by using the word "martyr"

[redstateblues]

8. Depends on how low his numbers get

[Doug.Goodall]

11. One video tape and he is done

[red dog 1]

17. It would have to be one hell of a video tape.

But anything's possible, I guess.

[DFW]

12. Trump knows his Republicans better than he knows his facts

A majority of the teabagger House willing to impeach?

Two thirds of the Senate, when over half is Republican willing to convict?

A Democratic caucus willing to ditch an incompetent Trump in favor of a malevolent Pence?

It's a question of whether we want to be shot or hanged.

[sakabatou]

19. Maybe impeached but not convicted

[red dog 1]

22. Interesting point.

It's probably more likely that the House of Representatives would ever impeach him than the Senate would ever convict him.....(but it sure would piss him off, wouldn't it?)

[hibbing]

20. He could even lie about getting a hummer n/t

[red dog 1]

24. From a 13-year-old girl?

"Press conference called off for woman accusing Trump of horrific child rape due to 'threats'"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141614263

[Blue_Tires]

23. Congressional repubs aren't impeaching their own man

especially while he's so useful to them right now and there's so much regressive legislation to hammer through...

[hunter]

25. Trump will be a compliant puppet, just the way the modern Republicans like their presidents.

Trump is lazy. Turning against his masters would be too much work.

[Warpy]

26. No matter how dangerously corrupt and dim witted the ignoramus is

and how big a danger to the country he is, he won't be impeached before the first two years are up so that his Republican successor will be eligible to serve two full terms after completing Trump's term.

[red dog 1]

28. "Remember a Congresscritter's priorities" (Reply # 10)

"Priority 1 - Retaining their seats".

If enough "Congresscritters" feel that Trump's actions might jeopardize their reelection in 2018, they won't care about a Republican successor being eligible to serve 2 full terms or not.
All they would care about are their own hopes for 2 more years in Congress.

[Locutusofborg]

27. No Way...

Trump's massive ego would not allow him to be the first president to be impeached, tried and convicted. Like Nixon, he would resign if impeachment by the House was inevitable.

[NewJeffCT]

34. Welcome to DU

resistance is futile, but I would think Trump might try to impose martial law if it became clear he was going to be impeached, or maybe try the modern day equivalent of the burning of the Reichstag.

[red dog 1]

35. I agree.

Trump will do anything in his power to avoid impeachment.
including imposing Martial Law and a "modern day equivalent of the burning of the Reichstag"

(After all, one of his heroes is Adolph Hitler)

[Dulcinea]

43. That's what I think too.

He would resign before he was impeached. He'd probably like nothing more than to go back to his gilded penthouse.

[Me.]

29. You MIssed

18 months, which is my guess

[nkpolitics1212]

30. Democrats need to first regain control of the United States House

Democrats need a net gain of 25 seats.
1)AZ-2
2)CA-10
3)CA-21
4)CA-25
5)CA-39
6)CA-45
7)CA-48
8)CA-49
9)CO-6
10)FL-18
11)FL-26
12)FL-27
13)IL-6
14)IL-12
15)IL-13
16)IL-16
17)IA-1
18)IA-3
19)ME-2
20)MI-3
21)MI-6
22)MI-7
23)MI-8
24)MI-11
25)MN-2
26)MN-3
27)NE-2
28)NJ-2
29)NJ-3
30)NY-1
31)NY-2
32)NY-11
33)NY-19
34)NY-21
35)NY-22
36)NY-23
37)NY-24
38)OH-10
39)OH-14
40)PA-6
41)PA-7
42)PA-8
43)PA-15
44)PA-16
45)TX-23
46)VA-2
47)VA-10
48)WA-3
49)WA-8
50)WI-3
51)WI-7
52)WI-8
These a Republican held districts that has a PVI less that +5 R
Regarding the US Senate.
2018
They need to knock off Heller-NV,Flake-AZ and Cruz-TX and hold onto Nelson-FL,Donnelly-IN,McCaskill-MO,Tester-MT,Heitkamp-ND,Brown-OH,Casey-PA,Kaine-VA,Manchin-WV,and Baldwin-WI. Democrats will have a 51-49 majority.
2020
They need to knock off Gardner-CO,Perdue-GA,Ernst-IA,Collins-ME,Daines-MT(Bullock),Tillis-NC and Cornyn-TX 58D 42R
If Trump gets re-elected
2022
They need to knock off McCain-AZ,Rubio-FL,Isakson-GA,Young-IN,Grassley-IA,Blunt-MO,Burr-NC,Portman-OH,Toomey-PA,and Johnson-WI 68
2023 will be the year Trump gets impeached,convicted,and removed from office.
That is assuming he gets re-elected.

[red dog 1]

36. Welcome to DU!

Interesting post.

[NewJeffCT]

33. I'm pessimistic that it will ever happen

when Nixon was threatened with impeachment, Democrats had a much bigger edge in Congress than Republicans have now.

In 2018, the Senate map looks very bad for Democrats - they have many more seats to defend and a slew of them are in states that Trump won.

There will be a new onslaught of voter suppression laws put into place over the next 18 months that will make it harder for minorities and the young to vote.

The only hope is that with slashes to medicaid, medicare, social security and other federal functions, it will hit Trump's popularity ratings. I predict that in January of 2018 - barring a huge "come together America" terror attack (false flag or not) - Trump's popularity will be in the 26-28% range, meaning it's more likely that Democrats can hold onto their senate seats. Will they be able to pick up 3 seats to win control of the senate? I don't know. And, will they be able to overcome extreme gerrymandering to pick up the 20-25 seats they need to win back the House? (without the gerrymandering already in place, I think Dems would have 214-220 seats in the House, so it would almost be a flip a coin situation)

If Democrats can pick up the Senate and House, then I predict a swift demise for Trump. If not, it could be 6 more years.

[red dog 1]

38. You make some excellent points.

Especially citing the fact that in 2018, the Dems have way more Senate seats to defend than do the Repubs.

[nkpolitics1212]

37. We should focus on making sure Trump vacates the White House 4 years from now.

A Cory Booker/Sherrod Brown ticket will turn PA,MI,and WI into blue states.

[red dog 1]

39. Welcome to DU!

IMO, Elizabeth Warren as the Democratic candidate in 2020 will ensure that Twitler
"vacates the White House 4 years from now"

As far as impeachment goes, so far it looks like many DUers think impeachment is possible
(57 to 31)

[nkpolitics1212]

40. What do you think of a Warren/Booker ticket in 2020 or

Warren/Harris ticket

[red dog 1]

42. I like Cory Booker, however..

.a Massachusetts liberal and a New Jersey liberal would not be a "balanced ticket"

IMO, HRC's choice for her running mate (Tim Kaine) proved to be a disaster because they both were conservatives.

If Hillary had chosen Bernie or EW as her running mate, SHE would be sitting in the Oval Office tonight, instead of Twitler.

I would like to see Sen. Warren as the 2020 Democratic candidate..period.
However, if she chose a more conservative running mate, perhaps a Congressman, perhaps even a "blue dog" Congressman, from the West or Midwest, THAT would be a
"balanced ticket" imo.

By the way, contrary to what many DUers think, so-called "blue-dog" Democrats do NOT always vote with the Republicans.

I'd love to see Sen. Warren become the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, and I'd like her to choose a less liberal senator or congressman as her running mate..someone from the west or midwest.

(Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA) would make an excellent running mate for EW in 2020)

[nkpolitics1212]

44. What about a white southerner as EW VP running mate in 2020?

Gov. Roy Cooper NC
Gov. John Bel Edwards LA

[red dog 1]

46. I like it!

A Dem from the south would balance the ticket nicely.

[LeftInTX]

41. I can picture Trump pulling a Sarah Palin

I can see him coming up with some lame excuse such as, "The job is too easy"

[Hayabusa]

45. Never

At least not with a Republican-controlled legislature. Unless he does something monumentally (and I do mean monumentally) dumb.

[red dog 1]

47. Like lying to Congress?

Or being indicted for rape?

[Hayabusa]

48. Given some of the GOP

I doubt the latter would matter much

[red dog 1]

50. What if the latter involved a 13-year-old girl?

(See reply # 24)

[Hayabusa]

52. It didn't stop him from getting elected.

Sadly. Hell, the right was pumping out news that she was a hoax the second after she cancelled that press conference.

[red dog 1]

53. True, however, she and an eyewitness to the rape both gave depositions under oath,

and under penalty of perjury, that the alleged rape did occur back in 1994 at Trump's friend Jeffrey Epstein's town house.
Epstein is a billionaire and a convicted sex offender, yet Trump was allegedly seen having sex with underage girls at Epstein's "Lolita" parties at least four times.

I wish Lisa Bloom would issue a statement on the matter, since she was the alleged victim's lawyer.

[Hayabusa]

54. Agreed.

But that's not gonna stop people.

[JHan]

51. I really wonder if he'll last till April.

[nkpolitics1212]

55. Could Trump be impeached for making Palin Ambassador to Russia? or

Sell Alaska to Russia?

[hay rick]

56. Impeachment would require character and integrity from Republicans.

The oligarchs screen those traits out before they write the checks that put and keep Republican candidates in office.

[nkpolitics1212]

57. With Republicans having majority control in both House and Senate, the question should be

How long before Trump is forced to leave the Presidency?
More than 4 Years?
Less than 4 Years?

[femmocrat]

59. I went with two years, because we have to regain the Senate in 2018.

Hoping there will be a huge mid-term reversal of both houses.

[red dog 1]

61. + 1

[TeamPooka]

60. Why would the GOP impeach their rubber stamping puppet?

[DFW]

62. As with Nixon, I don't think it will get that far.

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This time, I think that if things look too dicey for Trump legally, he will find a way to say "my work is done here," declare victory over the forces of evil, and leave the country in the "capable" hands of Mike Pence, the president the Republicans wanted all along anyway. Of course, that will be sort of like Spain being in the "capable" hands of Tomás de Torquemada, or Wallachia being in the "capable" hands of Vlad Ţepeş, but that will be more to their liking than a party leader who might just do enough stupid, embarrassing things to let the Democrats slip back into the majority in both Houses of Congress. We'll need a lot of luck and either Howard Dean or someone with at least as much imagination and drive as Howard as our party chair to put us there, but another two years of the Trump we have seen so far might do the trick.

[red dog 1]

63. I agree!

I, too, think that he will eventually say "my work is done here" after drastically cutting funding for all social programs, including Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid, despite his campaign promises not to do so.

[pressbox69]

64. With so much

anger and hatred in him he will probably combust sooner than later.

[red dog 1]

65. Human Spontaneous Combustion.....It happens every day, right?

But what if he's not human?