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Last edited Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)
They were a lost treasure of my childhood, a staple from now-lapsed Catholic Lent. The recipe was not among those I sat my mother down to interview. I don't remember whether she ever made them or whether it was my grandmother who did. Anyway, it's been some sixty years without the family version, only rarely in a cafeteria type setting.
So now my generation of cousins are adjusting to our role at being the Olds and one of my cousins sent out what she said was our grandmother's recipe, saying she had been presented our grandmother's recipes when she married. So there it is, below. Simple and non-gourmet. I Googled and reconfirmed that stuff on the internet is WAaaay "sophisticated" and snooty with exotic ingredients from pre-digested entrails of extinct species.
But I had questions: What kind of potatoes? New or russet? A cousin and the internet confirmed it should be the starchy, baking kind. Then where the recipe said, "make mashed potatoes" did this mean actual Mashed P. with milk and stuff? Answer, no, just mashed/crushed up.
Still unanswered: Pink or red salmon? I am doing the pink. To the gourmets in Lounge, don't SNEER at my pedestrian simplesse, using CANNED things, whatever. And I've only bought flour a couple of times in my life, and picked the whole grain organic from an employee owned company at twice the price of the commonest type. A hint of my partial hippie days of natural foods and unnatural vitamin supplements (long gone). Still, any corrections or improvements will be honored, mocking will not be.
One of the things Lounge taught me to change about my mother's recipes was where she said, "Heat the olive oil until it smokes." Some Loungeteer fumed, "*DON'T* make it SMOKE!1 That releases carcinogens!1" But the real gem was somebody here, whom I've never seen before or since, who said, "I'm a German male but know cooking. The correct temperature is to heat the pan first, then add the oil. When you see the little waves, that is the correct temperature."
******************* GRANDMOTHER'S Salmon Patties:
* 2 large cans salmon
* 1 1/2 large or 3 small potatoes
* 4 eggs - separated
* 1-2 tbls flour
* Salt/pepper to taste
Boil potatoes, make mashed potatoes, mix with salmon Salt/pepper
Batter: Separate 4 egges, beat whites, fold into yolk. Add flour
Make patty and dip into batter
Fry in hot skillet until golden each side. Turn carefully. Drain on paper towel.
elleng
(130,976 posts)'stealing' this for Cooking + Baking Group, and maybe for myself! We didn't have these when growing up, but I've liked them when tried, on occasion.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)elleng
(130,976 posts)I do it occasionally, but 'suffering' for it now because have to leave home for a few. Kitchen clean up's the WORST!
coco22
(1,258 posts)needs onions for me.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)dinger130
(199 posts)before frying. Gives them a crunch. I also like to add a little onion, parsley and dill weed if I have it.
If you don't have potatoes, make a sauce out of milk and flour and thicken on the stove. Can add some bread crumbs if too soft.
A good economical meal along with creamed peas.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Kali
(55,014 posts)my Mom's salmon patties were just canned salmon (pull out the vertebrae and let the weird children eat them) a stack of saltines crushed and a couple of eggs, fried in just a little oil (probably crisco back then)
and almost always served with fried grated potato patties too - grated raw potato fried in little piles until the outside is crisp and brown and the inside still nice and chewy. (half inch of oil - more than the salmon patties)
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Mosby
(16,319 posts)She used the canned sockeye salmon. She didn't bread them or use any potato. They were kinda like crab cakes but with salmon. She may have used a little matzo meal and egg.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)a bit dry, like mine needed a bit of sauce.
Mosby
(16,319 posts)Onion in the patties will add moisture while they cook/brown.
http://www.joyofkosher.com/recipes/grandma-sylvias-salmon-croquettes-with-fried-onions/
Mosby
(16,319 posts)http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/dill-sauce-sera-pelle
http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/salmon-with-creamy-dill-sauce
The last one with horseradish sounds delish.
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)With some chives or leeks, maybe.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And maybe a pinch of sugar.
ETA: In the recipe, not as a sauce.
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)I wouldn't want to, anyway!
blogslut
(38,002 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)
What kind of Old are you?
Kali
(55,014 posts)Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Just dip and eat!
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Well, what can be done to something from a can and a boiled potato?!1 So I could taste the fish and the potato, but the unique flavor I remember from the batter was just not really there. And it was a bit dry at times. As I remember the crust, it was thicker and crunchy and flavorful.
That crusty thing was like what the internet says about the bottom, burned part in paella: "The socarrat in paella is one of the most important keys for fabulous flavor. The socarrat is the crusty crispy bottom of the paella that becomes caramelized and toasted on the bottom of the pan when it is cooking."
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The batter is similar to a chiles rellenos batter, except the yolks are also beaten before folding in the whites. The relative proportions of the ingredients can be adjusted to achieve a fluffy, medium or crispy result.
For flavor, you might check other recipes for any additions to the batter or fry in lard or bacon drippings.
elleng
(130,976 posts)FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)were made with a roux or thick cream sauce as the binder, not mashed potatoes.
She chilled the formed croquettes, then dipped them in beaten egg, and rolled them in cracker crumbs, and then fried them.
Oh, they were good. An absolute delicacy.
I miss my mother.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)every day.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)not pink.
The red keeps a robust color after cooking and I think it is better-tasting.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)I put chopped onion and saltine cracker crumbs in mine as well. Love the idea of potatoes!