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Is it so wrong to like well done steaks with ketchup??? (Original Post) spooky3 May 2017 OP
yes n/m bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 #1
No, of course not, but people fix on trivia for some reason, elleng May 2017 #2
Probably not as Jamaal510 May 2017 #3
French dressing is basically ketchup, vinegar, oil, and spices. nt tblue37 May 2017 #29
Why order a $54 steak, just to over cook it and then smother it in ketchup? Siwsan May 2017 #4
It's a little unusual to like them this way, I think. Ilsa May 2017 #5
Jerky for the jerk. How fitting. 3catwoman3 May 2017 #25
The eighth deadly sin.. HopeAgain May 2017 #6
Do you really care what people think of your steak habits? Solly Mack May 2017 #7
There really is nothing wrong with that. But liking steak well done is typical PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #8
That doesn't explain Trump jmowreader May 2017 #23
You may be making a huge leap to assume he PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #24
I mean, you like what you like. forgotmylogin May 2017 #9
Not a damn thing Phoenix61 May 2017 #10
Whatever floats your boat heaven05 May 2017 #11
Nice buttery mushrooms MFM008 May 2017 #12
Yes. Yes it is. Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2017 #13
If you enjoy well done steaks with ketchup, that's the way you should eat them. TexasProgresive May 2017 #14
Yes, it's wrong. Ketchup belongs on meatloaf. Well done steaks should be fed to the dog. In_The_Wind May 2017 #15
I don't care for ketchup at all. cwydro May 2017 #16
Won't catch me doing that... Wounded Bear May 2017 #17
I like my steak medium rare, more rarer....... mrmpa May 2017 #18
In idiot Trump's idiotic case, there's more going on Orrex May 2017 #19
When the cow was using it, it was pretty rare A HERETIC I AM May 2017 #20
Just run the cow close enough to the grill to scare it...... lastlib May 2017 #31
Mom? A HERETIC I AM May 2017 #32
I like that! lastlib May 2017 #33
NO! You cannot put ketchup on a steak! Callmecrazy May 2017 #21
I suppose you think Godfather 3 was the best one of the trilogy. NobodyHere May 2017 #22
Remembering when the GOP laughed at Obama ... left-of-center2012 May 2017 #26
My hometown, Chicago, believes that catsup on a hot dog is a sin elehhhhna May 2017 #27
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. spooky3 May 2017 #28
Well-done is fine--but trash the ketchup! lastlib May 2017 #30

elleng

(130,884 posts)
2. No, of course not, but people fix on trivia for some reason,
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:24 PM
May 2017

as if there weren't REAL things about which to despise him.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
4. Why order a $54 steak, just to over cook it and then smother it in ketchup?
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:32 PM
May 2017

Maybe it's his version of lighting a cigar with a $100 bill.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
5. It's a little unusual to like them this way, I think.
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:36 PM
May 2017

Steak lovers typically like them tender, with nice mottling of fat (not gristle) to make the steak juicy after grilling. Some like a steak rub, frequently including sea salt, pepper, garlic, onion, paprika, etc, depending on what flavors they like. I prefer the steak with its own juices, but occasionally want a few drops of A-1 Sauce for variety. Cook it Medium for me. I don't like it rare.

I don't care for marinades on steaks to be eaten as steaks, but I like marinades on kabobs, etc.

We grill a lot of beef in texas, and don't bother with the lean stuff (too tough).

It sounds like Trump might be happier with jerky.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
25. Jerky for the jerk. How fitting.
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:00 PM
May 2017

He could even have his own brand - Trump Jerky. Has a nice ring to it.

Solly Mack

(90,763 posts)
7. Do you really care what people think of your steak habits?
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:54 PM
May 2017

Your steak, your taste buds, your preference.

It would be rude to question your choices at the table.

Perhaps in a cordial situation where people are pondering the merits of a well done steak with ketchup it is different.

Like now. For instance.

I would offer that there is no other way to eat a well done steak than with the ketchup coup de grâce.

Joking aside - eat what you wanna eat and how you wanna eat it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
8. There really is nothing wrong with that. But liking steak well done is typical
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:54 PM
May 2017

of people who haven't (yet) been exposed to something I'm going to call better. I know, that sounds a bit elitist, but bear with me.

A lot of us grew up in a home where cooking was simply utilitarian. Plain food, plain cooking, no spices to speak of. Steak, the rare times there was steak, was typically well done in part because the person cooking didn't have any experience in cooking it any other way. For condiments, ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise only.

Those of you fortunate enough to have grown up with a mother who was a good cook, and perhaps a family ethnic tradition that involved more subtleties in the cooking (I'm looking at you whose families came from Italy or Greece especially), probably still didn't often get steak.

When I was growing up meat was always VERY thoroughly cooked. There was a strong belief that rare (undercooked) meat would probably kill you, so it was cooked completely. Naturally, I acquired a taste for that. It took me a long time to move my taste in steak to medium, then medium rare, but honestly I don't think I'll ever start liking rare.

As for ketchup, while I don't use it very often, I get the appeal. For one thing, it's sweet. For another, if you're not remotely adventurous in your eating, if you slather it on the food it will taste reliably like ketchup. So while that's not my preference, I understand it.

The real shame is that the donald has no appreciation of how flavorful a properly cooked steak (rare, medium rare, or even medium) can taste. More to the point, in fitting with his mental and emotional development, he's eating like a seven year old.

added: If we were out together at a steak place, and that's what you ordered, I might raise my eyebrows, but I sincerely hope you wouldn't see that, and I most assuredly wouldn't say anything. Chances are I have more than one food preference you don't care for.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
23. That doesn't explain Trump
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:32 PM
May 2017

He grew up in NYC in a rich family. He had plenty of opportunity to experience the finer things in life, and he still eats like a four-year-old.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
24. You may be making a huge leap to assume he
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:58 PM
May 2017

actually grew up with the opportunity to experience the finer things in life. And keep in mind he was sent off to military school at one point.

My guess is that his upbringing, despite the surrounding money, was more like that of a working class household, and with little or no exposure to things like fine food.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
9. I mean, you like what you like.
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:16 PM
May 2017

And I suppose a good restaurant could make a well-done steak that's not tough and still juicy. But if you want it to taste like ketchup, you could do that with meatloaf or sloppy joe made with hamburger.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
10. Not a damn thing
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:35 PM
May 2017

I haven't eaten beef in over 30 years but when I did eat a steak it was always well done with ketchup. I went to a famous steak house and asked for the filet butterflied and well down and covered it with ketchup. I'm sure the cooks cringed but I thought it was great.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,571 posts)
13. Yes. Yes it is.
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:11 AM
May 2017
Sorry, several years as a steakhouse line cook. Cooked thousands of steaks and anything past medium, in my opinion, is a waste of money. Ketchup? By that time, who cares?

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
14. If you enjoy well done steaks with ketchup, that's the way you should eat them.
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:30 AM
May 2017

This is just such a small thing for people to get their knickers in a knot over. I say, go by the What-a-Burger motto- "Have it your way."

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. I don't care for ketchup at all.
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:44 AM
May 2017

But I don't like steak either.

I used to wonder why people put ketchup on eggs. Gag. But everyone has different tastes.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
18. I like my steak medium rare, more rarer.......
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:47 AM
May 2017

than medium. No sauce for me. However, if I have leftover steak or roast beef, for a sandwich I like it on white bread with Worcestershire sauce & ketchup.

Orrex

(63,206 posts)
19. In idiot Trump's idiotic case, there's more going on
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:50 AM
May 2017

If you like your steak well done and with ketchup, then by all means go for it. You seem like a reasonable, thoughtful, well-rounded human being.

But if you aggressively promote your idiot self in the public eye, and you've built your idiot empire and your idiot brand on the idea that you yourself are an idiot poser with no sophistication and both the temperament and intellectual capacity of a very young child, then everything your idiot self does is fair game to be viewed in that context.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,367 posts)
20. When the cow was using it, it was pretty rare
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:28 PM
May 2017

Eating it as if it had burned in a forest fire seems a bit extreme.

You want your steaks well done? Eat them at Waffle House. Buying a Rib Eye at an upscale steakhouse and then asking them to basically microwave it to a point of being unrecognizable as a beef component seems counterintuitive

Frankly, and this is the food/beef snob in me coming out, well done steak is what someone who just doesn't know any better eats. Putting ketchup on same utterly drives the point home.

At least try a bearnaise on it, for fucks sake

lastlib

(23,222 posts)
31. Just run the cow close enough to the grill to scare it......
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:57 PM
May 2017

then cut the steak off, and you're eating well! And. NO. KETCHUP! EVER!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,367 posts)
32. Mom?
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:16 PM
May 2017

LOL...

That was my moms line, or close to it.

"Just walk the cow past the stove and yell FIRE in its ear, then walk it out here and bring me a sharp knife"


Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
21. NO! You cannot put ketchup on a steak!
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:59 PM
May 2017

What's wrong with you people? And cooking a steak until all the flavor is gone is a waste of a good cut of meat.
Now that I've settled this, let's move on.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
26. Remembering when the GOP laughed at Obama ...
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

Obama was ridiculed by the right for requesting mustard on a hot dog.

They said:
"No body puts mustard on a hot dog.
Real Americans put ketchup on hot dogs!"

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