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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:18 PM Jun 2017

Name some movies you think are underrated, or unfairly maligned...

...OK. I'll begin. I don't care what anyone says, I like "Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves". *Deep sigh*. There. I'm out of the closet. It looks beautiful, has a gorgeous score, is a good piece of storytelling with a smooth rhythm to the action, and has an over-the-top, almost Pythonesque performance by Alan Rickman that stands out from the rest of the film, but in a way that is cool and not annoying. And I don't give a damn about Costner's American accent. The actual people of the 12th century didn't sound any more like modern Englishmen and women than they did like Americans. The film has been over-edited--I'd like to have seen more of the Geraldine McEwan character, whose role was drastically cut. But while it isn't as good--obviously--as the Errol Flynn Robin Hood, it's still a worthy film.
OK--what are your guilty pleasures?

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Name some movies you think are underrated, or unfairly maligned... (Original Post) First Speaker Jun 2017 OP
Always had a weakness for Carlito's Way BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #1
Sahara was better than I thought... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #2
Which one? I thought there were three versions, but mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2017 #13
The Matt M. one (the Bogart one is a classic!) n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #34
under rated- 'The Bear' . It's my favorite movie and has few spoken words in it. luvMIdog Jun 2017 #3
The Hudsucker Proxy neeksgeek Jun 2017 #4
I loved it too TexasBushwhacker Jun 2017 #5
Way under-appreciated Coen Bros. effort. Gorgeous classical music score. (nt) Paladin Jun 2017 #22
The score was incredible! Like the music in this sequence: neeksgeek Jun 2017 #24
That clip is going to make some people find that movie and watch it. Paladin Jun 2017 #25
I'm one of those people! I've barely heard of this movie and am a huge Coen Brothers fan... Upthevibe Jun 2017 #46
I got to talk with Ethan about that movie once.... bettyellen Jun 2017 #29
Another Coen classic is "Burn After Reading" cos dem Jun 2017 #41
That was a great one! neeksgeek Jun 2017 #43
Born Yesterday. raging moderate Jun 2017 #6
Born Yesterday is actually a classic. Judy Holliday won the Oscar that year beating out Upthevibe Jun 2017 #47
Movie, Movie. ghostsinthemachine Jun 2017 #7
Waterworld... flying rabbit Jun 2017 #8
I liked Water World as well redstateblues Jun 2017 #9
A Knight's Tale TlalocW Jun 2017 #10
The question I would have liked to ask the critics sarge43 Jun 2017 #15
According to what I read TlalocW Jun 2017 #23
It's not like it's a "serious" movie cos dem Jun 2017 #42
Collateral Initech Jun 2017 #11
Agreed - thought this was quite good n/m (but saw it early so no bad buzz at that time) bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #35
Donovan's Reef - John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Elizabeth Allen, Dorothy Lamour, Cesar Romero, Jack Warden SharonAnn Jun 2017 #12
Ridley Scott's 'Legend.' yallerdawg Jun 2017 #14
How did you get that pic of Donald Trump jr??? n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #36
I just watched "Batman v. Superman" and thought it didn't deserve the harsh criticism it got. Coventina Jun 2017 #16
If you squint really tight, you'll see a good movie. Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #30
"Sorcerer" (1977) Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2017 #17
I saw that at the theater (was there any other way?) JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #19
I walked home! Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2017 #20
A.I.--Artificial Intelligence skypilot Jun 2017 #18
Yes! The ending made it clear... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #21
Nope, sorry; AI was irredeemable gratuitous Jun 2017 #31
I think the awfulness... skypilot Jun 2017 #40
Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #26
The Postman. byronius Jun 2017 #27
Ishtar! I thought it was a riot. Squinch Jun 2017 #28
I'll agree there gratuitous Jun 2017 #32
Things to Come Kleveland Jun 2017 #33
Things to Come - yes - one of those late night suprises that come out of nowhere n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #37
Benny and Joon Bayard Jun 2017 #38
Snakes on a Plane jpak Jun 2017 #39
Valhalla Rising egduj Jun 2017 #44
'Rollerball' - 1975. Aristus Jun 2017 #45

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
1. Always had a weakness for Carlito's Way
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:25 PM
Jun 2017

Great Pacino, Sean Penn hilarious as Davey Kleinfeld, the coked-up lawyer, a cheesy love story that you root for anyway, young John Leguizamo, good action-driven plot and lots of great New York atmosphere.

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
3. under rated- 'The Bear' . It's my favorite movie and has few spoken words in it.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:28 PM
Jun 2017

I love this movie. It has very few spoken words. I'm also not usually a fan of movies about animals, but this is my favorite movie.






from wikipedia:

The Bear (known as L'Ours in its original release) is a 1988 French family film directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud and released by TriStar Pictures. Adapted from the novel The Grizzly King (1916) by American author James Oliver Curwood, the screenplay was written by Gérard Brach. Set in late 19th-century British Columbia, Canada, the film tells the story of an orphaned bear cub who befriends an adult male grizzly as hunters pursue them through the wild. Several of the themes explored in the story include orphanhood, peril and protection, and mercy toward and on the behalf of a reformed hunter.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
25. That clip is going to make some people find that movie and watch it.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jun 2017

Including me---hell, I want to see it again. Thanks for posting.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
46. I'm one of those people! I've barely heard of this movie and am a huge Coen Brothers fan...
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:53 AM
Jun 2017

I'll seek it out! Some of their movies are my favorites of all time!

cos dem

(903 posts)
41. Another Coen classic is "Burn After Reading"
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:32 PM
Jun 2017

Not sure why people don't like it. Granted, it's not Big Lebowski or Fargo, but it's pretty funny in the dark humorous way that Coen's are famous for. Seeing Brad Pitt playing a dumb guy always brings a smile.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
47. Born Yesterday is actually a classic. Judy Holliday won the Oscar that year beating out
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:00 AM
Jun 2017

Bette Davis in All About Eve and Gloria Swanson in Sunset Blvd.! Wow....Judy Holliday was great in a great movie...

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
10. A Knight's Tale
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:39 AM
Jun 2017

Part of what turned critics off was that modern music played throughout the movie so you would have a medieval crowd stomping and clapping along to Queen's, "Another One Bites the Dust," or nobles dancing to David Bowie. But there were some good performances put in by Alan Tudyk (who makes me laugh in a lot of his movies), Paul Bettany as Chaucer, and Laura Fraser as Kate, a blacksmith that has trouble finding business because she's female (developed a crush on her).

TlalocW

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
15. The question I would have liked to ask the critics
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jun 2017

What music would have been appropriate? We know a lot about medieval church music, very little about the "pop" music. As writer/director Helgeland pointed out, Queen, Bowie, AC/DC would be the kind of music Will, Roland and Wat would have listened to. They were street kids using a competitive sport to get out from under.

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
23. According to what I read
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jun 2017

The point of using modern music was to show that people back then got into their music as much as we do now.

Not sure that came across, but what the heck.

TlalocW

cos dem

(903 posts)
42. It's not like it's a "serious" movie
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jun 2017

It's meant to be fun. I didn't see the rock and roll soundtrack any more out of place than in Guardians of the Galaxy.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
11. Collateral
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:43 AM
Jun 2017

Tom Cruise as a hit man and Jamie Foxx as his unwitting cab driver. Amazing action sequences and may be one of Tom Cruise's best performances.

SharonAnn

(13,773 posts)
12. Donovan's Reef - John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Elizabeth Allen, Dorothy Lamour, Cesar Romero, Jack Warden
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:43 AM
Jun 2017

From IMDB - "Comedy subtly dealing with moral issues such as racial bigotry, corporate greed, American belief of societal superiority and hypocrisy. "

It's a guilty pleasure of mine. There's just something(s) about it that I love.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
14. Ridley Scott's 'Legend.'
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:40 AM
Jun 2017

Unmatched in 'fantasy adventure' quality until 'Lord of the Rings' started!

It has a cult following, though!






Coventina

(27,120 posts)
16. I just watched "Batman v. Superman" and thought it didn't deserve the harsh criticism it got.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jun 2017

The fight and chase scenes are way too long and don't advance the plot enough to warrant their length.

However, overall I think it's a really interesting psychological study of the two characters and how they view their missions as heroes.

It is a very dark and scary movie, so I think DC made a mistake in marketing it as a "summer blockbuster". It's really not that kind of movie at all.

And, I LIKE Ben Affleck as Batman/Bruce Wayne. He is a much more warm and engaging presence than Christian Bale was. Maybe the Bale performance is more true to the character, but Affleck is much more my idea of Bruce Wayne.

Plus, the introduction of Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman!!!!

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
30. If you squint really tight, you'll see a good movie.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:20 PM
Jun 2017

The problem is that it got chopped and edited into a complete mess, which made some of the key scenes (including the big event at the end), seem unearned. Plus, Snyder's obsession with dark, colorless scenes, with tons of brooding staring, got old for me in a hurry.

But, yes, I do agree that there was a good movie somewhere in it.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
19. I saw that at the theater (was there any other way?)
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jun 2017

On the way home, I drove VERY CAREFULLY! Don't hit a pothole!

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
18. A.I.--Artificial Intelligence
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jun 2017

I don't want to give anything away for anyone who hasn't seen it but there is a certain scene where a lot of people think the movie should have ended. I loved the "third act" which some think ruined the movie. I loved the movie overall.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. Nope, sorry; AI was irredeemable
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:32 PM
Jun 2017

Right from the get-go, the premise is just awful. The idea of bringing an android 8-year-old into a home is just too horrible to contemplate. I realize the situation in the movie was engineered to bring the android into the home, but activating it? For anyone who can think a week into the future, why in the world would you?

A year from now, that android is going to be an 8-year-old boy. Ten years from now, he’ll be . . . 8 years old. Twenty years from now? Same thing. He’ll never age, he’ll never hit puberty, he won’t mature and graduate high school, learn to drive, go to college, get married, or anything a normal kid would grow into. Why would you invite this monster into your home?

When you’re 62 years old and you stub your toe on the coffee table, you’ll be hopping toward the medicine chest when that android proudly tries to show you entry number 82,768 in a never-ending series of childish drawings of “Mommy and Me” and get out of my way, you little shit!

AI: No. Just no.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
40. I think the awfulness...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jun 2017

...of using androids of any age to fill some personal need was part of what the movie was about. Yes, the child android would never age but in the society being depicted he was also considered disposable even though he was imbued with (or programmed to have) human emotions.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
26. Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:16 PM
Jun 2017

I agree with many of the arguments against it, particularly the convoluted plot, but people forget that the point of the movie was to introduce a looming conflict in an otherwise peaceful galaxy.

I always said that the key movie was the second prequel, so when Attack of the Clones wound up being pure garbage, I stopped defending Phantom Menace.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
32. I'll agree there
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

One of the big knocks on Ishtar was how much it cost, something close to $50 million in an era when that was a hell of a lot of money for a studio to sink into a project. I saw it second run and enjoyed it, then I saw a review that thought Ishtar was okay, and basically said, "Does Ishtar have $50 million worth of laughs? No, but what do you care, it's not your money."

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
33. Things to Come
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

H.G. Wells

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0028358/

I am a fan of older timeless movies like this.

A great commentary on human nature, and society at large.

And of course, there is also Citizen Kane.

Both are relevant in this day and age.

Sorry, black and white if you can handle it!

Aristus

(66,366 posts)
45. 'Rollerball' - 1975.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:13 AM
Jun 2017

Too often, I see it criticized as 'mediocre sci-fi'. I think it is vastly underrated, although it's reputation has benefited from the disastrously awful early 2000's remake.

Even without the bad and unnecessary re-make, the original Rollerball is an excellent film. I won't go into all of its merits here. Suffice it to say that it is definitely unfairly maligned.

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