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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsNot mocking, Catholic statue of Mary: The earrings gave me pause
I'm *lapsed* and consider myself a secular humanist, but still have a bit of nostalgia the way the generations after Henry VIII's split from the church pined for "the olde religion." So there was this news item about a newly commissioned statue of Mary and first the CONVENTIONAL "beauty" of the features struck me, but then the *earrings* - talk about high maintenance!1 Would a celestial being need further adornment over and above the presumed state of ineffable otherness?
I did a small Google on Athena and, while her depictions include crownlike helmets, the quick Search brought up no earrings. Just, hmmm.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...Hope it Wins!
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Amazing to see in person...
http://www.nashville.gov/Parks-and-Recreation/Parthenon/Athena.aspx
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)it was covered up off limits because of litigation - back in the '90s.
****Whoa, just looked at your link and that's quite a hair and makeup job!1 Looks like earrings might be included but can't tell.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)I can't remember if she had ear rings or not. From the photo it could be her hair.
She and little Nike are pretty cool up close.
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)I remember taking a school field trip down there to see it. At that time, the statue was all white. It wasn't until later that the historical rendering of the statue was completed. Perhaps that was ongoing when you visited, because I can't recall there ever being litigation related to the Parthenon, but I could be mistaken.
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)I've got pics of myself at the building, but *my* image is protected - haha!1
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)The only time that I know of that the statue was off limits or unable to be viewed was when artists were working on it after the initial installation.
It went from this:
To this:
And I'm not disputing/arguing, but the detail about copyright has remained stuck in my otherwise ever fading mind, and is not something I would think up on my own, and have never done any reading up on about this site, so...
That said, this Athena is dolled up more than Mae WEST!1 And with bracelets (can't see earrings). I realize that in ancient Greece the buildings and statues were painted (wildly?), and assuming that the Nashville is a homage/replica, is this what the original looked like?!1
Lars39
(26,109 posts)like the Time Life's artist's rendition of the statue (Greece, page 115). I'd scan and upload but supper is calling.
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:41 PM - Edit history (2)
Top piece Big, other two subordinate. Symbolism is big in the church.
*******My bringing Athena into it was just from wondering whether physical adornments are common in actual antiquities of deities, am thinking yes, but it stuck out regarding Mary. To clarify, the Mary here is a brand new commission, not an oldie.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Maybe... earlobe halos, or lobe aura.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Come on.
red dog 1
(27,797 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)I get the image of the lady sitting on a cloud, putting on earrings and applying lipstick, but then, presumably personal assistants - I mean, *angels* - would be involved!1
But the real incongruence in my mind is the Vanity Clause, as in personal adornment being vanity. I'd better stop at this stage of my blaspheming!1
Donkees
(31,392 posts)... the flares being thought of as 'spiritual conduits'.
There are Tree of Life, fertility and protection symbols on the statue, and the crescent shape at her feet in this photo is similar to the naja squash blossom design.
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)Curiosity is consuming me!1
Donkees
(31,392 posts)In my opinion, the ancient design is a cultural artifact of Mayan ear-flares (ear plugs) signifying a spiritual conduit. Imagine the flares as amplifying 'hearing the cries of the world'. Here is one form of an ancient ear-flare. It looks like the top of the earrings the statue is wearing.
Here is another version of an ear-flare:
Donkees
(31,392 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)Donkees
(31,392 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)mind that the artist is Italian, although he might base himself on research?
Donkees
(31,392 posts)Ear-flares evolved into hoop earrings, but the design elements remain. An artist creating a modern icon for a culture, would be familiar with that culture's visual language.
Tonanzin transformed into Our Lady of Guadalupe
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,282 posts)Of his previous project, the Stations of the Cross at the same shrine, the Basilica of Our Lady of San Juan del Valle National Shrine in San Juan, Texas, depicted by life sized statues. These sculptures look much simpler, but the amount of work that must have gone into creating this is astonishing!
Video:
UTUSN
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http://catholicliturgicalarts.blogspot.com/2016/05/in-memory-of-our-dear-friend-edmund.html
In Memory of Our Dear Friend Edmund Rabanser
May 28 2016
It was nearly half a century ago when Rudolf Rohn discovered a brilliant young artisan who had the God-given talent of carving masterpieces out of wood. Rudolph had such great faith in this young woodcarver he presented him with his first large commission. That brilliant artisan was Edmund Rabanser and he became one of the preeminent master woodcarvers in the world.
Today, it is with heartfelt sympathy that Rolf Rohn informs you that this brilliant artisan, trusted colleague and dear friend, has passed away. Rolf and his team have had the pleasure and honor of working with Edmund on projects around the world. He was an artist who took pride in creating magnificent one-of-a-kind works of art using simple Old World craftsmanship in his treasured Ortisei studio, in his home overlooking the Italian Alps.
Edmunds work is proudly displayed in churches across the globe, including these in collaboration with our studio:
USCCB Chapel in Washington DC Crucifix
Holy Family Institute in Pittsburgh, PA Holy Family statue and Saint with Children
Chapel of the Incarnate Word, San Antonio TX Crucifix and low relief carvings with the history of the congregation
Co-Cathedral of the Sacred Heart, Houston TX Crucifix and saint statues in the Narthex
St. John Neumann, Austin TX Crucifix
Church of the Resurrection, Rio Rancho, NM Crucifix
Bishop's Ricken Chapel in Green Bay Cimbaue Cross and Tabernacle
Basilica of Our Lady of St. Juan del Valle National Shrine, San Juan, TX Life-size bronze Stations of the Cross
Blessed Sacrament Church, Alexandria Crucifix
St. Joseph Parish, York, PA Emmaus carving sanctuary wall
Father of Mercy Chapel, Franciscan Sisters, T.O.R., Toronto, OH Carved sanctuary wall
St. Louise of Marillac, Pittsburgh, PA Sanctuary wall and tabernacle door
St. James Cathedral, Orlando, FL - Crucifix
He is survived by his wife, Concetta; three children, George, Oskar and Helen; and six grandchildren
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