Florence Foster Jenkins is a free bonus on Dish. It's a HOOT!1

[UTUSN]

And STREEP sounds better singing in it than in Mama Mia!1

[applegrove]

1. It was a great film. Streep is so captivating.

[UTUSN]

3. & an incredibly difficult role of badness that takes mastery to do

[applegrove]

4. Yeah. The singing was incredible. Bad enough to be awful but not painful

to hear.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. I thought it *was* pretty painful to hear -

and it's really difficult to intentionally sing that hilariously out of tune.

[applegrove]

8. But you looked forward to it. Oh the somersals she did. It must have been hard

to not laugh if you were in that movie. I am tone deaf so maybe it was worse than I sensed.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I love that movie.

I read somewhere that Streep and the accompanist ("Howard Wollowitz" in The Big Bang Theory, who plays the piano for real) recorded the music live rather than dubbing it in after the filming was done. And the accompanist character totally stole the scene where he first hears Florence sing. His facial expressions were hilarious.

[applegrove]

5. He was in Studio City on the Sunset Strip. He played a 'Saturday night live'

type actor. Very talented.

[Mme. Defarge]

7. I really, really

hated that movie on a number of levels, not the least of which was how "loyalty" as a virtue has limits. Thinking back on it, it may even have parallels to Trumpism.

Sorry, I'm probably just cranky.

[UTUSN]

9. Lounge is an appropriate place to be cranky. I do cranky in inappropriate places.

Like with doctors' receptionists.

[applegrove]

10. All families have delusions. Hers were just more public because she rich

and could buy theatre time. Depressed people are the least delusional. Happy people are some of the most. If you look at the world through any emotion you will colour things in a bit. Depressed people feel nothing but dred and having been there I would not reccommend it to anyone. Her story was also was a metaphor for the dangers of power and wealth. Very timely actually. But then again you are cranky so maybe you are less delusional about the movie than i.

[Mme. Defarge]

11. Merci!

You are very generous. And, yes, clinical depression is living hell. So, take good care, my friend.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. It was a sad story as well as a funny one.

She had a lot of enablers because she was rich, and nobody wanted to tell her she couldn't sing. And she was happy singing badly because she didn't know she couldn't sing in tune - she just loved the music. I am also wondering whether her illness interfered with her sense of pitch; if I (and most people) sing a wrong or inaccurate note I can hear it immediately. There must have been something else going on that caused her to be unable to match pitches.

And somebody should have told her that under no circumstances should she attempt the "Queen of the Night" aria.

[applegrove]

14. For me hitting the right pitch is a random thing. I once was in an audition

for some citywide elementary school choir. Some teacher put me in a group of fellow classmates who could sing. We all wailed 'Oh Canada' together as the talent scout walked amongst us. I must have coincidentally been singing on pitch when she walked by me as I got a tap on a solder and an appointment downtown to sing solo in front of a panel of judges. Didn't practice. Nobody in my family could have helped to prepare me. I sang one bar in front of that panel when they said thank you.

Next i took piano lessons. The nun who taught me tore up my check one day and sent me home forever. I was in grade two music but could not read more than one note or play by ear. I used to count the notes to learn the piece then memorize it. I've never been so happy to fail.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. I read a really interesting book about why some people

are tone-deaf. The author really loved music but he was a horrible singer who couldn't carry a tune, and he wanted to find out if he could be "cured." "Bad Singer" by Tim Falconer. https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Singer-Surprising-Science-Deafness/dp/1770894454

[applegrove]

17. Thanks. Here is science on tone deafness:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823214755.htm

"SNIP.....

Do people cringe when you sing? You’ve got company. But researchers have found that only 1 in 20 people truly has amusia, the technical term for tone deafness. Tests have shown that some people with bad singing voices hear music just fine. Amusics are a smaller group with a perceptual problem: They can’t pick out differences in pitch or follow the simplest tunes, reports the September 2007 issue of the Harvard Health Letter.

Brain scans haven’t revealed major anatomical differences in amusics, but more sophisticated tests have uncovered some subtle variations. In a study comparing amusics to people with normal musical ability, researchers used a brain imaging and statistical technique to measure the density of the white matter (which consists of connecting nerve fibers) between the right frontal lobe, where higher thinking occurs, and the right temporal lobes, where basic processing of sound occurs. The white matter of the amusics was thinner, which suggests a weaker connection. Moreover, the worse the tone deafness, the thinner the white matter.

Some experts believe there’s a great deal of overlap between how the brain handles music and how it handles speech, which also has elements of pitch and rhythm. Others, though, believe that musical perception and thinking occur separately from other functions, and that our brains are predisposed toward developing centers and networks dedicated exclusively to music.

.... SNIP"

I hear music fine. But maybe not as fine as most.

[LenaBaby61]

15. Florence Foster Jenkins is a free bonus on Dish. It's a HOOT!

I am also wondering whether her illness interfered with her sense of pitch

I'm beginning to wonder if tRumputin's suffering from the same kind of syphilis that Foster-Jenkins had. He doesn't master the English language well, but does manage to repeat the same things over and over and over again. Limited vocabulary. He doesn't KNOW that most people are watching him as he continues to capitulate, bow down, appease and felate putin. He doesn't know ANYTHING or care about the world around him--he's as dumb as a blob of POO. He also never says one negative thing about putin (He must have something horrific on tRumputin--worse than that pee pee tape. Must be his federal income taxes :chuckle , but continues coming after Pres. Obama (Of course tRumputin's a racist, hates and is obsessed with Pres. Obama), Hillary (Sexist, jealous of and who hates her), Yertle and now Manafort (Has his buddies over at the National Enquirer tearing Manafort's character (What character) down via womanizing.

As for Yertle, I don't think that their relationship is over just yet, because Elaine Chao's still working for tRumputin as his Secretary of Labor isn't she? Yeah, I don't believe their relationship is quite beyond repair.

Again, if tRumputin fires Chow, then it MAY be on and poppin' between Yertle and tRumputin, and we know that Yertle can cause a world of pain for tRumputin IF he wanted to. Probably knows he needs the blob of poo so he can further destroy this country.

[UTUSN]

13. It's in the period vein of Topsy-Turvy & Singing in the Rain,

less intricate, less complex in plot, historical detail, and numbers of conflicts, but subtly touching characterizations. There's room for the Hugh GRANT character, who was playing a not-so-great actor, to have been performing in Florence's real life very great acting.

[femmocrat]

18. I enjoyed that movie more than I expected.

I loved the piano player!

[UTUSN]

19. He looked familiar at the start & I couldn't place him until somebody here said Big Bang

He was hilarious and did great with his big league co-stars. All of the roles had layers.