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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:10 AM Mar 2016

Nobel Prize Economist Says American Inequality Didn’t Just Happen. It Was Created.

By Joseph E. Stiglitz

American inequality didn’t just happen. It was created. Market forces played a role, but it was not market forces alone. In a sense, that should be obvious: economic laws are universal, but our growing inequality— especially the amounts seized by the upper 1 percent—is a distinctly American “achievement.” That outsize inequality is not predestined offers reason for hope, but in reality it is likely to get worse. The forces that have been at play in creating these outcomes are self-reinforcing.

America’s current level of inequality is unusual. Compared with other countries and compared with what it was in the past even in the United States, it’s unusually large, and it has been increasing unusually fast. It used to be said that watching for changes in inequality was like watching grass grow: it’s hard to see the changes in any short span of time. But that’s not true now.

Addressing inequality is of necessity multifaceted—we have to rein in the excesses at the top, strengthen the middle, and help those at the bottom. Each goal requires a program of its own. But to construct such programs, we have to have a better understanding of what has given rise to each facet of this unusual inequality.

Distinct as the inequality we face today is, inequality itself is not something new. The concentration of economic and political power was in many ways more extreme in the precapitalist societies of the West. At that time, religion both explained and justified the inequality: those at the top of society were there because of divine right. To question that was to question the social order, or even to question God’s will.

However, for modern economists and political scientists, as also for the ancient Greeks, this inequality was not a matter of a preordained social order. Power—often military power— was at the origin of these inequities. Militarism was about economics: the conquerors had the right to extract as much as they could from the conquered. In antiquity, natural philosophy in general saw no wrong in treating other humans as means for the ends of others. As the ancient Greek historian Thucydides famously said, “right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

Those with power used that power to strengthen their economic and political positions, or at the very least to maintain them. They also attempted to shape thinking, to make acceptable differences in income...................

http://evonomics.com/nobel-prize-economist-says-american-inequality-didnt-just-happen-it-was-created/

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Nobel Prize Economist Says American Inequality Didn’t Just Happen. It Was Created. (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 OP
The Clinton supporters think that the widening wealth inequality is just rhett o rick Mar 2016 #1
They can't SAY that's what they're doing. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #2
of course stupidicus Mar 2016 #3
And it's been happening in front of them for Decades. Phlem Mar 2016 #4
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. The Clinton supporters think that the widening wealth inequality is just
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:44 AM
Mar 2016

unfortunate collateral damage. "Let them eat cake."

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
2. They can't SAY that's what they're doing.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

And, not every single politician has to even know that's the plan if they recruit a lot of ambitious, greedy, selfish assholes to be "our" representative politicians. And, boy do we seem to have our fair share of ambitious, greedy, selfish assholes for politicians.

But, it seems like this is the agenda in many parts of the World. It's possible the financial and global elite (the New World Order that many politicians talk about) might even be doing this for what they would tell themselves are altruistic reasons (i.e. the planet can not survive thriving working classes all over the world). They could NEVER tell people openly they are doing this on purpose. They would have to recruit as many selfish, sociopathic assholes as they could in which case they could minimize the number of individuals that were even aware of what their agenda might truly be.

Alternatively, they could just be greedy fuckers.

Or, they could be both.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
3. of course
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

it's been an orchestrated affair since the Saint Raygun days, when awareness of AGW and the likely negative impacts it was gonna have on societies worldwide sunk in.

The moneyed interests thought that perhaps they should increase their money mountains (and the power/control that comes with it) so as to assure they still had a lot left after the "socialistic solutions" AGW IS gonna demand are implemented.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
4. And it's been happening in front of them for Decades.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

The education has been fucked for a very long time and now they are reaping their rewards.

A hill supporter told me the other day that he has voted since Nixon and didn't need my research (although I wasn't providing any at all, 0, but asking him to do his own. His reply

I don't need you research when "common sense" tells me everything I need to know.

Ugh.

Willful ignorance has always been cool.

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