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socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:38 PM Jan 2012

Posted a thread in the Politics 2012 forum about Ron Paul.........

I'd like for y'all to take a look at it. The title is "Ron Paul supports the death penalty for marijuana possession".

Worker's Power is doing an article on Paul and this was one thing I took out of it. Paul's supposed "anti drug law" stance is based strictly in his support of 10th Amendment "State's Rights" arguments. So if Mississippi, Tennessee, or even California enacted a law mandating the death penalty for marijuana possession, Paul would philosophically HAVE TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT.

The article also delves into Paul's fascist background. I'll link it when it's posted on the web site.

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Posted a thread in the Politics 2012 forum about Ron Paul......... (Original Post) socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 OP
Is the article done yet? Patience is not a virtue of mine. white_wolf Jan 2012 #1
Not yet........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #2
I'm looking forward to it too! Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #3
Yeah, I saw the edited version this AM and........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #4
Nope not yet...... socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #5
I find this odd. white_wolf Jan 2012 #6
It's up....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #7
Fascinating read. I did not know that Paul's people had regular meetings with White Nationalists. joshcryer Jan 2012 #8
He pretty much is. white_wolf Jan 2012 #9
This article should be posted in GD, unless there's a reason you don't want it posted there. white_wolf Jan 2012 #10
I did post it in one of the general forums........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #11

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
1. Is the article done yet? Patience is not a virtue of mine.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jan 2012

I'm interested to hear about Paul's Fascist background, because it surprises me. He seemed to be a legitimate libertarian, which I'd think would make him opposed to Fascism.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
2. Not yet........
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jan 2012

Patience Grasshopper? I'll post it here. It was written by comrade Mike and the editing is almost done.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
3. I'm looking forward to it too!
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jan 2012

I don't know much about his background, just that he's genuinely quite fascist. He's scarier than some of the neocons.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
4. Yeah, I saw the edited version this AM and........
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 01:21 PM
Jan 2012

although the article didn't quite call him a fascist, it agreed that he was closer to a fascist than any of the other candidates.

Let me check and see if the site has it up yet. BRB.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
6. I find this odd.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:22 PM
Jan 2012

I've always opposed Paul for his libertarian economic views, but he seems a lot better than any of the other Republicans on civil liberties and militarism. It seems odd that he could support Fascism and hold his libertarian views at the same time. Is his libertarianism just an act or am I missing something?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
7. It's up.......
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:50 PM
Jan 2012

As the article explains, it's not that he's overtly a fascist, it's that his fetishism about the Constitution AS IT WAS WRITTEN OVER 200 YEARS AGO coinsides with MANY positions held by the fascists and gives them an entry into the "mainstream" of political thinking.

But it DOES lead to some "libertarian" contradictions. Also in the article, what about companies who would have the opportunity to pollute ACROSS state borders if this interpretation of the role of the Feds were adopted? Your state could have the best enviromental legislation in the whole country, but if your neighbor state has the WORST legislation, a polluting company could locate in your neighboring state and any pollution that crossed state borders wouldn't be penalized. Where is the libertarian "The rights to your fist ends at my nose" in this scenario?

Anyway, here's the article: http://www.workerspower.net/ron-paul-a-bigoted-reactionary-enemy-of-the-99

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
8. Fascinating read. I did not know that Paul's people had regular meetings with White Nationalists.
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 07:08 AM
Jan 2012

As Chomsky puts it, Ron Paul is basically an ultra-nationalist.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
11. I did post it in one of the general forums........
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jan 2012

(I think it was GD). Dropped like a stone. But in posting, timing is everything. I might try it again.

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